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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
How can someone's views or opinions possibly infringe upon anybody's rights or freedoms ?
In other words, some people hold beliefs that you personally find upsetting. I'm afraid that's just tough luck.
Hating the hater is unconstructive and counter-productive. Your idea of a better society would be better achieved if you didn't display this attitude.
Originally posted by HefficideI feel a societal responsibility to disagree with that which is unproductive or destructive to my fellow humans.
Originally posted by predator0187
I would never and will never side with the majority of people because there is a majority, I will side with the one that makes the most sense in my thoughts.
Originally posted by predator0187
I also do not think people have to get married to have certain rights is allowable. Is marriage not religious? Then why should I do something that is religious to get extra rights and privileges? Sounds stupid to me.
Originally posted by noonebutme
If such a person was in a position of political power that their views on race or sexual preference dictated public policy or law, thereby preventing people of certain sexual preferences of races from living their lives in the same level of freedom and equality as everyone else. That's what i meant.
Originally posted by noonebutme
I don't find it upsetting. If someone wants to hate a group of people, let them. So long as they don't actively try to stop those people from enjoying the same level of freedoms the hater does.
Originally posted by noonebutme
No it isn't. How is it counter productive? What is productive by appreciating someone's beliefs who would otherwise set society backwards? If someone's beliefs are such that it means a group of people, who wish nothing more than to live and contribute to society, are prevented from their freedoms - how is 'hating' that counter productive?
Originally posted by noonebutme
If someone hates nazis or racists or murders - that's hating a group of people who work to destroy peace and harmony and society - antisocial behaviour. And to me that's fine.
Originally posted by noonebutme
If someone hates gays or people based on colour - that's hating a group of people who are NOT antisocial, who are not working to destroy anything. And that isn't fine.
Originally posted by Tykonos
I don't agree that we all have racism at our very core, although we do judge people by the way they look, the ethnic difference is a big diffference visually.
We prejudge certain aspects of that person based on certain cultural beliefs that we have of that race. Even though that persons culture maybe the same as our own. Wrong, yes, but we all do it. It's only when we get to know the individual that we learn the true content of that character.
I wouldn't call that racist, as racism sees one race superior over another.
As for the homophones, well, that hatred seeems to either come from the religious aspect, disgust at the act of sex or fear of their own feelings towards the same sex.
The religious side of the arguement gets trashed everytime, as religion is a personal belief in the authenticity of the scripture being the word of God. If we all started to treat others according to our individual religious beliefs there would be chaos. No-one has the right or should have the right to inflict their religious views or their way of life onto people who don't share that faith.
As for the disgust at the sex thing, well most people will find the thought of their parents having sex revolting, whatever they get upto in bed. It doesn't mean they are immoral or wrong. The anal sex thig gets raised but not all gay people do that. Some straight people do it though.
The health issues regarding gay sex gets excitedly mentioned by some. Like 20% of gay men have HIV. Well that is an issue about safe sex. Std's aren't restricted to homosexuals. Again as I said in a different thread, if a new STD came into existence that only infected women, would it make it right for someone to quote those statistics to back up an arguement claiming women are unhealthy or wrong? I hope not.
edit on 12-10-2010 by Tykonos because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Yeah, sure.
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
Apparently if you hate them you become them.
Second Lineedit on 11-10-2010 by Yeah, sure. because: thats why
Originally posted by ohsnaptruth
Personally, I don't like racists and homophobes because they keep society as a whole from moving forward. There's always constant bullying and war and murder or suicides or both and nothing will ever get finished. Narrow-minded people literally keep us from evolving.
Ah, religion. It gives us so much hope but takes away everything else.