Are we just crazy or are we the people in the know?

I come on here daily because it makes me feel like I know a little more then what the general public knows...Some of the things that have been reported on here, comes out in a weeks time on main stream news.I've seen that happen more then one occasion...

Well for the heart of my post: I often wonder when Jews first heard of what was happening do you think they were in disbelief.(As some are in disbelief of what we think may be happening.) Sometimes my father and I talk over the major conspiracy that are around; it bothers my mother.Her statement is often,"They wouldn't let that happen."
It always makes me think of someone's Jewish mother calming down her family...

["I often wonder when Jews first heard of what was happening do you think they were in disbelief.']

do you mean like police state type scenario?

We are not people "in the know" we are merely more informed about how sinister the world really is.
And as for your mother, if you have the gull to sit her down and show her the facts, by all means.
But remember that you have to leave the choice of her beliefs to her and not be one-sided like the rest.

Let me clarify, we know more then the main stream...We might not have the insight that the "TPTB" do...I've notice lately people that know my family call us when they hear alternative type news.As to find out if we have a little more info on the subject...

''Are we just crazy or are we the people in the know?''


Maybe open minded is more what you are looking for?

Fruitcakes
By: Jimmy Buffett, Amy Lee
1994
--Spoken:
"You know I was talking to my friend Desdemona the other day she
runs this space station and bake shop down near Boomtown. She told
me that human beings are flawed individuals. The cosmic bakers
took us out of the oven a little too early. And that's the
reason we're as crazy as we are and I believe it."

"Take for example when you go to the movies these days, you know.
They try to sell you this jumbo drink, 8 extra ounces of watered
down cherry coke for an extra 25 cents. I don't want it.
I don't want that much organziation in my life.
I don't want other people thinking for me.
I want my Junior Mints. Where did the Junior Mints go in the
movies. I don't want a 12 lb. Nestle's crunch for 25 dollars. I
want Junior Mints."

"We need more fruitcakes in this world and less bakers!
We need people that care! I'm mad as hell! And I don't want to
take it anymore!"

Chorus:
Fruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)
Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)
Struttin' naked through the crosswalk
In the middle of the week
Half-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)
Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)
There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

Paradise, lost and found
Paradise, take a look around
I was out in California where I hear they have it all
They got riots, fires, mud slides
They've got sushi in the mall
Water bars, brontasaurs, chinese modern lust
Shake and bake life with the quake
The secret's in the crust

Chorus:
Fruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)
Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)
Struttin' naked through the crosswalk
In the middle of the week
Half-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)
Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)
There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

--Spoken:
"Speakin' of fruitcakes, how 'bout the government?
Your tax dollars at work."

We lost our Martian rocket ship
The high paid spokesman said
Looks like that silly rocket ship
Has lost its cone shaped head
We spent 90 jillion dollars trying to get a look at Mars
I hear universal laughter ringing out among the stars

Chorus:
Fruitcakes in the galaxy (Fruitcakes in the galaxy)
Fuitcakes on the earth (Fruitcakes on the earth)
Struttin' naked towards eternity
We've been that way since birth
Half-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)
Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)
There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

--Spoken:
"Religion! Religion! Oh, there's a thin line between Saturday
night and Sunday morning. Here we go now.
Alright, alter boys."

Mea Culpa Mea Culpa Mea Maxima Culpa
Mea Culpa Mea Culpa Mea Maxima Culpa

Where's the church, who took the steeple
Religion is in the hands of some crazy-ass people
Television preachers with bad hair and dimples
The god's honest truth is it's not that simple
It's the Buddhist in you, it's the Pagan in me
It's the Muslim in him, she's Catholic ain't she?
It's the born again look its the WASP and the Jew
Tell me what's goin on, I ain't gotta clue

--Spoken:
"Now here comes the big ones. Relationships! We all got 'em, we
all want 'em. What do we do with 'em?
Here we go, I'll tell ya."

She said you gotta do your fair share
Now cough up half the rent
I treat my body like a temple
You treat yours like a tent
But the right word at the right time
May get me a little hug
That's the difference between lightning
And a harmless lightnin' bug

Chorus:
Fruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)
Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)
Struttin' naked through the crosswalk
In the middle of the week
Half-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)
Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)
There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

--Spoken:
"The future. Captain's log, stardate two thousand and something."

We're seven years from the millenium
That's a science fiction fact
Stanley Kubrick and his buddy HAL
Now don't look that abstract
So I'll put on my Bob Marley tape
And practice what I preach
Get Jah lost in the reggae mon
As I walk along the beach
Stay in touch with my insanity really is the only way
Its a jungle out there kiddies
Have a very fruitful day
Hey.

Chorus:
Fruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)
Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)
Struttin' naked through the crosswalk
In the middle of the week
Half-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)
Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)
There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

--Spoken:
"That's right, you too. Yeah those crumbs are spread all around
this universe. I've seen fruitcakes. I saw this guy in Santa
Monica rollerskate naked through the crosswalk. Down in New
Orleans in the French market there are fruitcakes like you cannot
believe. New York, forget it. Fruitcake city. Down island, we've got
fruitcakes. Spread them crumbs around. That's right, we want
'em around. Keep bakin' baby. Keep bakin'."

That depends on what the topic is.

Some people on ATS are certainly off their rocker...

Ha Ha,,,,

Don't worry , conspiracy has gone main stream because of you.

As far as Crazy, well ,, Hmmmn, I would say this, If you are a non-violent productive

member of society, your not Crazy.

Possibly somewhat eccentric for sure.

So was Howard Hughes. Cheers!!!

Absolutely bonkers, the whole bloody lot of us.
It's the flouride in the water, you see (well, perhaps)...

On the other hand, I recall an anecdote by Oscar Wilde. A fire started in a theatre and some men began screaming "Fire, fire ... everybody out!"
Just as everyone began to rushing towards the exit and panic, some gentlemen stood up and said:
"Absolute nonsense, this is a minor fire which will be taken care of by the staff, and there is no need to panic."
Many began to sing and resume their seats.
They all burned to death.

When news of Auschwitz first spread in 1942, many, sadly dismissed it as a crazy conspiracy theory.
Many times in history one could say, "Oh, if only people had listened ... but I guess the truth sounds too crazy sometimes.

reply to post by zbeliever


Hi ZBeliever... I personally believe we are a little of both. I believe we are all more aware and more vigilant, though I think that most of us have given in to bias against government, corporations, and other powerful institutions that we may too easily believe things that aren't supported by enough proof, and we may also be less willing to entertain an idea that is contrary to our beliefs or feelings. It's just a simple common human error, and I think the more we are aware of that, the better this community will evolve.

Everyone knows someone here that will believe anything, and it's those people that hurt this community most of all (along with hoaxers).

I too have seen news reported here first before it went mainstream. I love that!

i read a lot of threads on here, and i got to say crazy.

there is definatly a big crazy>sane ratio going on in this site.

You can't be a person in the know without being a little insane. The truth can be extremely hard to handle at times and hence can and eventually will loosen a few screws up there in the noggin.

conspiracy has gone main stream

Which isn't actually a good thing. The more mainstream it goes, the more the nutters are used to speak for anyone who questions the official story on anything.

Just look in the 9/11 forum for examples. Anyone who questions the official story is lumped in with the hologram people and the faked phone calls lot. As a result, it's now the domain of the crazies to question 9/11.

ATS might be a success story for the owners, but I don't think it's a success for the truth, alas.

"Do not call conspiracy
everything that these people call conspiracy ;
do not fear what they fear,
and do not dread it.-Isaiah8

You spoke by the Holy Spirit through the mouth of your servant, our father David:
" 'Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth take their stand
and the rulers conspire together
against the Lord
and against his Anointed One. 'Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.-Acts4

I think that we are more in the know than TPTB because TPTB eat their own propaganda.

1. The underlings MUST believe that 9/11 was a suicide terrorist job. If they question this, they are no longer the underlings. Any time you cut off someone's ability to question, you cut off their ability to learn.

2. The overlords have all the top secret info, but they have to act like they believe the propaganda, and so they are always engaged in double think, which is really just a form of mental retardation. They have already silenced their freedom of speech because if they talked honestly they would incriminate themselves. When they do, someone always blows the whistle on them.

So, I think the informed public are more in the know than the powers that be. Not all of them of course, not the HFCS eating, tv watching, sports crazed masses, but you know, the "Conspiracy theorists."

Originally posted by Rustami
"Do not call conspiracy
everything that these people call conspiracy ;
do not fear what they fear,
and do not dread it.-Isaiah8

Can you clarify which verse of Isaiah chapter 8 you are referring to? The KJV bible says

Isaiah 8:12: Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.

The King Jame bible could have changed "conspiracy" to "confederacy" but can you be more specific which version of the bible you are using and which verse number?

reply to post by Lord Jules


Do not call conspiracy [or hard, or holy] all that this people will call conspiracy [or hard, or holy]; neither be in fear of what they fear, nor [make others afraid and] in dread.- AB

Don't call something a rebellious plot, just because they do, and don't be afraid of something, just because they are.-CEV

the answer to it all-

The LORD of hosts, Him you shall hallow;
Let Him be your fear,
And let Him be your dread.
-NKJV

and of course

Psalm83-They say, “Let’s wipe out their nation
so that the name of Israel will no longer be remembered.”
5They agree completely on their plan.
They form an alliance against you:
6the tents from Edom and Ishmael,
Moab and Hagar,-GWT

“Come,” they say, “let us wipe out Israel as a nation.
We will destroy the very memory of its existence.”
5 Yes, this was their unanimous decision.
They signed a treaty as allies against you—
6 these Edomites and Ishmaelites;
Moabites and Hagrites-NLT

They have said, "Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation,
That the name of Israel be remembered no more."
5For they have conspired together with one mind;
Against You they make a covenant:
6The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites,
Moab and the Hagrites;-NASB

They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. 5For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes-KJV

Christ the King of Israel

thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

King of the Jews

I have to say, I love this site. Just tonight there seems to be a little to many people who profess to be in contact with an alien race...I lean a little more toward the false flag "Blue beam theory" myself...Oh well may be tonight is for the crazies...Only time will tell...Only time will tell...

Ya know say what you want about Jesus Christ whether or not he was god or so but today people would label him crazy and if nothing else the man was brilliant, alot of eccentric types are indeed brilliant and not crazy but to each his own.


As for the question at hand are we the ones in the know i gotta agree with some of the other posters it's a little bit of being open minded and yes having some info that others might not have.