Former Area 51 Employee Ed Fouche, page 3

reply to post by KIZZZY


Good thread on that here by Jkrog08 (RIP) Deserves a bump

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Originally posted by airspoon
. Just the fact that it is in a genre where confirmation is next to impossible, makes me suspicious. I'm not saying the guy is lying, only that he is suspect. Also, the fact that AlienScientist (I don't know him, so can't speak to his intentions) put up a disclaimer in his video, speaks to his distrust of this fella.

Well I disagree. IF he worked there he could prove it. Remember Bob's pay slip? Well yes that was brought into question..but if Ed claims to be the real deal, and worked there so many years, surely he can show us his personal badge, his paystubs, or something.

Like this... he shows his training photo

from www.alienscientist.com...



but at the same time he shows a meaningless CIA patch on his page as well. That sort of material is used for misdirection, almost like subliminal advertising. I saw Henry Deacan(aka Arthur aka 50 more) do that at a seminar... held up a passport but let no one actually look inside it. Now the training pic means absolutely nothing in relation to his claim, nor would any employment or service at Nellis AFB prove anything. I know many that have a Nellis AFB record and some are currently active. Doesn't mean they have been to Area 51

Ed says Bob is a liar... Ed goes out of his way to push that point... so let's see Ed's badge and paystub... Bob has already shown me his current Las Alamos badge.

You would think that if he was planning on going public, he would have retained something to confirm his story, as anyone in his position would have known that without confirmation, his story is really only good for selling books or waving hands at seminars.

Yes one would think... that is why I am waiting patiently

For instance, if I was going to betray employer (which I wouldn't do, by the way unless I felt that my family, community or country was at stake) with information that I believe people needed to know, then I would ensure that I could prove my story before going public, unless of course my motives were superficial, such as selling books or talking at siminars.

I agree... and there is also this... IF S4 is the real deal... then why is the gov letting Bob, Dan and Ed continue to talk about it?
1) it's not real and they are using this to distract attention
2) it's real but let these guy continue because no one will believe it
3) they really want it leaked out...(in that case they should send me some docs )

It is in these fields with this subject matter, that really draws out the con-men, as it's something that really can't be confirmed, one way or another. Just this fact alone should keep us more skeptical than ever when someone makes these claims.

Perhaps that is the plan... confuse, confuddle, divide and conquer. ChickNorris posted some docs from the DTIC on just such an outline I will have to go pull them up

As far as Alien Scientist, if you say he is credible, I have no reason not to believe it, though I wouldn't vouch for his credibility myself until I was familiar with his work. However, his credibility makes little difference here, as he is absolving himself of any liability by adding a disclaimer to the video. That disclaimer is in effect, a refusal to vouch for the credibility of this Edgar fella. So, even if Alien Scientist is a credible guy, it certainly doesn't make Edgar a credible guy, even by attachment, as AS has not vouched for his credibility and in fact, has done the opposite.

That is a very good point

Originally posted by KIZZZY
reply to post by airspoon

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Well Airspoon, I happen to have a lot of respect for AlienScientist and he did
put up a "disclaimer" and wants all people to do their own research on the
matter.
I even have some of AlienScientist YT videos displayed on my YT channel.
Any and all comments are totally welcomed here especially your two cents!

*puts out the beggar bowl*

For those wanting to research Fouche, as I recall, Fouche claimed to be from a formerly wealthy family from San Antonio, and he had loads of schooling. What we really need to know are his credentials for being and working at those secret locations. If like, Lazar and Barish, the edcuational documents have been "erased," I give them all a thumbs down--copycat facrications.

Kizzzy, OT comment:I find your avatar offensive even tho I like all of those body parts in an appropriate setting.

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Already on that one


Here is the first part..

ED says...

First I'll Share Some Of My Family Background: I was born to fifth generation French-Americans, and many of my relatives, for generations, have historically been involved with the government, in fields of intelligence, black programs, crypto, and classified development projects. This is true as far back as the French revolution where Joseph Fouch‚ was the Prime Minister under Napoleon. He was the head of the French secret National Police Force and a direct ancestor of mine. Joseph Fouch‚ started and controlled the world's first professionally organized intelligence agency with agents throughout Europe.

www.alienscientist.com...

Here is Joseph Fouche



Immediately below that picture we see a CIA patch with Eds' COPYRIGHT on it? WTF? Wonder how the CIA feels about that



Looking at the history of Joseph Fouche I find this..

Joseph Fouche
Duc d'Otrante
1763-1820

Napoleon Bonaparte's head of internal security, Joseph Fouche was a former school teacher who put aside the slate for politics. As a Jacobin member of the Convention, Fouche voted for the death of Louis XVI and then, sensing a change in political fortunes, turned against them. In 1799, Fouche became Minister of Police and used his increasingly powerful agent network to support the coup of Brumaire. Despite his assistance, Bonaparte was nervous of Fouche's power and he was removed from office for two years, before being re-employed as security chief.

www.napoleonguide.com...

There is more..

In 1810, the French emperor discovered Fouche had been having secret talks with foreign powers and eventually sacked him. Eventually Fouche wormed his way back into semi favour and was given the governorship of Illyria. After the Bourbon return to power Fouche kept links with Bonaparte, as he then did with the royals during the 100 Days' Campaign. Following the emperor's final defeat he was president of the commission ruling France and even had a place in government. Understandably, pro-royalists took offence at a regicide being in power and Fouche quit his post after only a few months. An intriguer with few equals, Fouche was the ultimate survivor with no obvious morals.

www.napoleonguide.com...

Not sure I would use such a shady character as reference... kinda sets the stage though... so to speak

i have a problem with a claim fouche makes in video 3, he talks about removing an access panel from a module in 1975 and coming across some microchips with over 500 pins and capable of 1 billion cycles per second, now if this were true then surely these chips would be common place by now, at least in the military, so why is it that the military has bought a huge stack of playstation 3 consoles in recent years to make cheap supercomputers.

scitech.blogs.cnn.com...

hushedcasket.com...

also if i remember correctly a microchip becomes less than optimal after 128 bit and thats why chip manufacturer's have all gone multicore, and i assume a chip with over 500 pins would be far more than 128 bit. im not a computer expert by any stretch but what he says makes no sense to me.

thanks

rich

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It's the weekend.
Go for it.

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hi phage,

im interested in what you think about what he says about the 500 pin microchips and my assessment, like i said, im no computer expert but i think i understand them enough to see it as a problem,

thanks

rich

reply to post by RICH-ENGLAND

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Even though it's the weekend I do have a few things to do so I'm not watching the video yet.

The microchip claim is problematic. Did he count the pins himself? How did he know the clock rate of the chip? Just by looking at it? Of course it is nothing but an unsubstantiated claim, is it? So it really doesn't matter.

reply to post by luciferxe

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ok, thank you for that but still, i see it as a problem, if as he claims it was available in 1975 then im sure as i already stated that it would have been widespread long ago at very least in the military and they would have no need to be buying playstation 3 consoles to make supercomputers!.

thanks

rich

reply to post by RICH-ENGLAND

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they were around in the late 90's. a 1ghz computer is 1 billion cycles.

now if you think about it. what that is mainstream. the reason the govt buys ps3's is not to build super computers as they say they are. they are used in guidance systems and simulators.

how many things have we seen lately that is said to be new tech but has been around since the 50's?

one i the laser printer. it has been around since the late 60's. but only mainstream in the late 80's.

im just starting with the videos now.

i am not supporting ed yet. i am just trying to help you understand it has been around for many years.

we have been able to build these chips for a long long time. just the older ones we use to make were huge and power hungry and not so much throughput.

speed isnt all that matters in the cpu. you also need accuracy and throughput. the speed of how fast it works is only the smallest part. if you can not get the data there fast enough then it is pointless.

now back to the vids

reply to post by KIZZZY

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KIZZZY…..

I note I have previously read & listened to some of Fouche’s material, albeit I have not sat through an hour or so of one of his presentations.

I guess I see it like this:

On the one hand…..

If someone was going to transgress non disclosure agreements, etc… in order to leak such information, then it’s possible….. or perhaps better put, not absolutely impossible….. that it could be done in this manner.

On the other hand…..

To date, Fouche has provided effectively no evidence to support his claims & there are inconsistencies within the “internal logic” of his “story”.

I too shall await his “evidence” with some interest.

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not

reply to post by luciferxe

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ok mate, point taken, as i said im not a computer expert, and yes its not beyond possibility.

but still i have already found a few flaws with things he has to say, lol.

next problem i have is in video 5, he talks about the supposed SR-75 "mothership" and SR-74 drone that supposedly launches satellites for the N.S.A.

now we already know how the D21 drone turned out!.

en.wikipedia.org...

now to me, it makes absolutely no sense for the military to attempt this again and makes even less sense for the drone to be launching satellites !. now surely it would be easier, cheaper and safer to launch satellites straight from a rocket then to have that type of military asset doing such a job!.

again im just speculating and could be wrong but it doesn't seem very logical to me!.

thanks

rich

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