posted on Oct, 9 2010 @ 01:43 PM
Originally posted by airspoon
. Just the fact that it is in a genre where confirmation is next to impossible, makes me suspicious. I'm not saying the guy is lying, only that he is
suspect. Also, the fact that AlienScientist (I don't know him, so can't speak to his intentions) put up a disclaimer in his video, speaks to his
distrust of this fella.
Well I disagree. IF he worked there he could prove it. Remember Bob's pay slip? Well yes that was brought into question..but if Ed claims to be the
real deal, and worked there so many years, surely he can show us his personal badge, his paystubs, or something.
Like this... he shows his training photo
but at the same time he shows a meaningless CIA patch on his page as well. That sort of material is used for misdirection, almost like subliminal
advertising. I saw Henry Deacan(aka Arthur aka 50 more) do that at a seminar... held up a passport but let no one actually look inside it. Now the
training pic means absolutely nothing in relation to his claim, nor would any employment or service at Nellis AFB prove anything. I know many that
have a Nellis AFB record and some are currently active. Doesn't mean they have been to Area 51
Ed says Bob is a liar... Ed goes out of his way to push that point... so let's see Ed's badge and paystub... Bob has already shown me his current Las
You would think that if he was planning on going public, he would have retained something to confirm his story, as anyone in his position would have
known that without confirmation, his story is really only good for selling books or waving hands at seminars.
Yes one would think... that is why I am waiting patiently
For instance, if I was going to betray employer (which I wouldn't do, by the way unless I felt that my family, community or country was at stake) with
information that I believe people needed to know, then I would ensure that I could prove my story before going public, unless of course my motives
were superficial, such as selling books or talking at siminars.
I agree... and there is also this... IF S4 is the real deal... then why is the gov letting Bob, Dan and Ed continue to talk about it?
1) it's not real and they are using this to distract attention
2) it's real but let these guy continue because no one will believe it
3) they really want it leaked out...(in that case they should send me some docs
It is in these fields with this subject matter, that really draws out the con-men, as it's something that really can't be confirmed, one way or
another. Just this fact alone should keep us more skeptical than ever when someone makes these claims.
Perhaps that is the plan... confuse, confuddle, divide and conquer. ChickNorris posted some docs from the DTIC on just such an outline I will have to
go pull them up
As far as Alien Scientist, if you say he is credible, I have no reason not to believe it, though I wouldn't vouch for his credibility myself until I
was familiar with his work. However, his credibility makes little difference here, as he is absolving himself of any liability by adding a disclaimer
to the video. That disclaimer is in effect, a refusal to vouch for the credibility of this Edgar fella. So, even if Alien Scientist is a credible guy,
it certainly doesn't make Edgar a credible guy, even by attachment, as AS has not vouched for his credibility and in fact, has done the opposite.
That is a very good point
edit on 9-10-2010 by zorgon because: NO!!