Originally posted by camaro68ss
Originally posted by ImAnAlienOnMyOwnPlanet
reply to post by camaro68ss
We're defiantly a Capitalist market! Why are our jobs over seas and all the illegals being hired and most of the people are laid off? Greedy
Here's a great article explaining Capitalism in today's state.
Everything you love you owe to Capitalism
Plus here's a great article on Capitalism vs. Socialism.
Red Vs. Blue
I dont care about your dang articles. Articles are the the view of one man/woman.
Jobs are over seas because its cheaper to produce over there because of cheaper labor. why is labor cheaper, there not unionized and dont demand 5%
incresses every year. because of Socialist greed " the working labor union man" demanding more pay every year. Companys said fine no more work for you
and shipped the jobs over seas where people would be more then happy to work for less. you rather work for $15 instead of $25 or not work at all.
Unions made there minds up and jobs got shipped out. thats why!
illegals are the same story. why pay a labor union guy $25 plus 5% incresses every year when you can pay a illegal $15
America is dieing because of these socialism union labors that demand more and more money!
Not everyone can be millionaires. this is one of the flaws of socialism
edit on 8-10-2010 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
It has nothing to do with socialism. Capitalism keeps workers in competition for jobs. Workers demanding more pay is not socialism. When the
corporations demand more profit is that socialism?
We are living in a false economy where our 'success' is measured by how big our personal bank account is, never mind that a lot of the world lives in
poverty. 25,000 people die from hunger everyday, yet we have the resources and technology to feed everyone.
Capitalism isn't markets. or money, it is the 'private ownership of the means of production'. In other words a small minority of people control the
worlds markets and the worlds wealth.
Capitalists did not invent the 'computer', a person did. In fact inventors rarely get wealthy from their inventions.
It doesn't take capitalists to make money, it takes people. The only thing capitalism does is centralise wealth and distribute it upwards to smaller
and smaller groups of people, causing the rich poor divide to widen. If capitalism was really working for the average person then the rich poor
divide should be getting narrower, not wider.
Socialism does not require a government. Socialism is an economic system where the workers own the means of production. Work places would be
cooperative/collectives where the profit is shared amongst the workers instead of a private owner. This improves working conditions and increases
worker wages putting more money into the economy.
Anarchism is traditionally socialist...
Anarchism is the no-government system of socialism." [Anarchism, p. 46] In other words, "the abolition of exploitation and oppression of man by
man, that is the abolition of private property [i.e. capitalism] and government." Errico Malatesta, Towards Anarchism,", p. 75
(By 'private property' he means the 'means of production' rather than your personal possessions.)
We are convinced that freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice, and that Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality."
Bakunin, the 'Father of Anarchism' The Political Philosophy of Bakunin, p. 269
Socialism is simply an economic system and does not need government or state system or force of any kind.
It has nothing to do with any political figures of the past who have been labeled as whatever. There have been no true socialist countries, or well
known true socialists. There have been many who claim the label, or have been labeled by others, but do the opposite in practice. Governments have
always ruled by coercion and deception, in the east and west.
There have been NO socialist countries including Russia and China. No socialist wants what happened in those countries. Do some real digging and
research, not just the first article you find that supports what you want to hear.
You have to realise that you have all grown up in the belly of the beast so to speak, you are all smart enough to realise that populations are
conditioned to think a certain way through school and media etc., so it should be obvious capitalists want to demonize socialism in the minds of the
population? As conspiracy theorists you should be the first to be suspicious of what you've been told by TPTB surely? The conditioning is so
transparent most people don't even realise it and really believe they are thinking for themselves.
Before WWII and TV, mass media, the working class was predominantly socialist, even in the USA. The Industrial Workers of the World (the IWW) was
founded in Chicago in 1905 for example. People were more educated and less confused because they taught each other, now we are taught (conditioned)
by the capitalist state.
Capitalism being the dominant system doesn't mean it's the better system. The capitalists have always had the upper hand, in the beginning they were
the only ones who could afford education. Now of course they have government, military, police, media, schools. All we have is ourselves. Socialism
has never failed because its never been given a chance, capitalists are not about to give up their power easily. The 'one world economy', it's been
hear for years.
edit on 8-10-2010 by Wally Hope because: typo