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Originally posted by OldDragger
reply to post by artistpoet
I didn't mention the Gray Area did I?
Read the Alien/UFO forum.
Then read the HOAX forum. Really, look at the HOAX forum!
How much deliberate misinformation has been posted?
Why is that OK?
Originally posted by m0r1arty
reply to post by artistpoet
How long does it take for a 'silly' thread to get moved to the 'Grey area'?
How long does it take for a 'serious' critical thinking thread on the entire subject to get moved to the 'Grey area' or 'Skunk works'?
There is a disparity between those who 'believe' wholeheartedly and those who scrutinise with regards to efficiency to reallocating to a correct subsection of these forums.
This isn't a fight about who's right - this is a fight about who's allowed to stay in a subsection with their claims for the longest, and potentially most correct, due to the workings of the administration of these forums.
Check my signature links and tell me I'm wrong.
-m0r
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by artistpoet
Posting a view on a subject is vastly different than posting an outrageous claim that is unbelievable, and then claiming everyone that doesn't believe you is just not enlightened or that they suffer from any number of other afflictions such as addiction to food, and that is the reason they can't "see" the truth.
The Gray area is for things like UFO sightings that may or may not be true, or a place to vet out photographs and see if they are credible, or a place to discuss paranormal experiences. It is not a place to air your schizophrenic tendencies and seek out free healthcare! There has to be a limit, and I applaud the Mods for being very patient in letting those limits establish themselves. I would use my axe for some of these silly azz threads much more quickly if I had the authority!
Originally posted by Nicolas Flamel
reply to post by OldDragger
I'm sorry, but I find the pompous and arrogant viewpoint of some "debunkers" amusing. It's not like we are writing an article for Nature or Science with all the rigor that entails. I don't see what's wrong with sharing ideas, no matter how far fetched they may seem to the "debunkers". The Gray Area seems like a good place for this kind of idea sharing.
I'm old enough to make up my own mind without people being abused and called names for expressing an idea. Personally I feel sorry for their closed mindedness and instead of ignoring outrageous claims, they have to go out of their way to humiliate, insult and generally be obnoxious. I think they get off on it.
Like someone said, this is ATS, not Scientific American. Some here point out factually what is wrong with an argument, which is great, but others just start bashing like World of Warcraft smack talkers. It's sad really because fewer people will be inclined to post, and eventually all that will be left is the debunkers. Hmm, maybe that is the agenda, no UFOs ever anywhere anytime?
Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
I have become appalled at the level of intentional lying, hoaxing & misrepresentation that is being posted in threads relating to the topic of "UFOs & Aliens".
But I think Old Dragger, and Maybe...maybe not were also saying that for a site devoted to denying ignorance, there is a small group of deliberate hoaxers promoting ignorance.