Why I'm Here at ATS and What Led Me Here.

My main interests are UFOs and the JFK assassination.

I never had much interest in UFOs until I saw one myself. This was just a background issue, although of course I'd heard of them and even of people who calimed to have seen them, like my great uncle did in Japan after Hiroshima and Nagasaki got nuked. I just didn't pay that much attention to any of it until I actually saw one, and I knew it wasn't anything like the technology we have here on present-day earth. It just sped up into space so fast that nothing we build could have done it, and no human pilot or machine we make could have possibly survived.

So that's when I started reading every declassifed government document I could find from the US and other countries, studying past UFO cases, reading books by J. Allen Hynek, Richard Dolan, Timothy Good, Stanton Friedman and others, listening to their lectures and so on, but now I KNEW for a fact that some of them were alien craft.


As for the JFK assassination, I can't remember a time when I didn't think that was a conspiracy, and a lot of the records that have been declassifed over the years point strongly in that direction as well. I never met anyone who DIDN'T think it was a conspiracy, long before Oliver Stone made his famous movie.

To my mind, one of the most important documents ever declassified about that was the one in which the CIA admitted that it had trained Oswald starting in 1957 and then sent him on a mission to the USSR. Of course they did not reveal that to the public, because that single document on its own blows the whole Warren Commission explanation apart. It shows that the chief suspect in the official version of the assassination was not at all the same as he was being portrayed, and that opens the door to a thousand other questions, like who Oswald really was and who he was working for.

reply to post by Blaine91555


S&F glad you are here.

I like you, had a sighting and it changed my life forever! I was lucky enough to see three at once. You know once you see them that they move and take off like "NOTHING" on this planet. The pure white light, the bobbing on airwaves, the velocity in which they leave.

But when you do see them, it opens a huge door in your mind. One that will not let go. I saw Close Encounters" when I was a kid. I remember the part when Richard Dryfus (Ronnie) built the mountain in his living room. Well, the feelings after witnessing these exotic craft are like that.

It never lets you go - connects and leaves you wanting answers.

I feel that answer is about to come!

Again, glad you are here!

Peace

Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by Blaine91555

Well I took a look around on Google Earth and put what I found on this page

www.thelivingmoon.com...

The first thing I noticed was what is labeled on GE as a tailing pond for an old Uranium mine in the area. (Uranium deposits on that land would have been more than enough reason for them to take your land) There are many Uranium mines listed for that area

But look at this tailing pond You being rock hound would know what they should look look so tell me why it looks like the image below from GE

From my post earlier on this page...

Originally posted by maybereal11

Trivia note...how did the US and Russians spot these hidden facilities from sattelite data? One clue was the roads. In the case of hidden missle facilities you needed raods that would accomodate very long semi-tractor trailors carrying missles. No hard right hand turns, but oddly gradual bending turns on the roads within the property. and leading to it.

well you know something...i posted a thread about my abduction...and when something happens to you that your afraid to tell because of being ridiculed for it then it does make it tough....
I have been taken over years and years....there has been many times of losing time...and that one is a hard one to explain....but what is stranger is when someone with you also loses time...and then it makes it a lot more real.
i am not making predictions...and i dont know why i see what i see....but i say this to you Blaine,,,,it does feel good to get things off your chest...now when i posted my abduction...if someone did a bit of research it would be easy to pinpoint who i am....and that is the worst bit...as people who have not shared in such experiences just want proof and if you dont have it then they call you nuts.
but there have been alot of people on here that have been supportive....do i know for what has gone on during my life through these experiences...no i dont....do i know what has happened to me and is it real....without a doubt.
the thing is never worry about what people think of you...as you know in your own heart what is true or is not.

Thanks for posting.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by time91

 

lots of possibilities and unknowns. My family was just an ordinary bunch of Farmers and Ranchers. To us this was more a case of the Government using it's power against a German family wrongly. It is my Great Grandparents original nationality that led to their land being taken. I have no doubt of that. Even though they left Prussia long before the insanity started, my family was persecuted somewhat for their heritage.

My family ended up in that area as many did. Through their connection to the Mormon Faith. Some of their heirs became Mormon's and others did not.

At the time this happened was I think right after my Mother left Union Pacific Railroad as a Brakeman and Turntable Operator where she did her part during WW2. My Father worked as a Ship-fitter in San Diego during the war. He left his job at the Coal Mines in Utah to do that. An Aunt installed wiring harnesses in Jeeps and even the Farms and Ranches contributed crops to the effort. It was a different time then.

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That reminds me of my grandfather on my mother's side, whose parents had come from Germany as well. He was very strongly anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler, and volunteered for the Army right after Pearl Harbor was attacked, but they wouldn't take him because he was a very skilled worker, building aircraft simulators and all that. He also had some UFO stories, too, but as a kid I didn't pay much attention to them. He actually thought that American industry was testing some very exotic technology even back in World War II, and that it seemed too advanced for anything that was then known on earth.


He really loved America, though. He used to say this was the greatest country in the world--the best democracy and the best country for the common people that ever existed.

I wish I could share his feelings, but I think things have gone very badly wrong in this country over the last 30-40 years and it's turned into some kind of oligarchy or aristicracy, just like Germany was when his parents immigrated from there long ago.

reply to post by Divine Strake


Divine Strake,

Thank you so much for sharing your experience!

That blue mist is intriguing to me. When I went through my phase of searching for the truth in Religion, I often read accounts where people mentioned a blue mist or a blue light. Seems to be a common theme in both Religion and in encounters of the type you related. It is mentioned far to often to ignore.

I can't imagine what waking up in the circumstances you did must have felt like.

Those triangular craft are also a common theme it seems. Sightings of those are one of things that I watch out for lately.

Your Grandmother sounds wonderful.

Thanks again.

reply to post by zorgon


I looked at the location on GE. Directly SW of the "retention pond" and near to it......south of the bend in the drive/road there is what looks like a shiny arched silver metalic square roof..surrounded by a square with several thin towers...either antennae or very tall fence posts? The structure looks like the roof to a building, but when you zoom in it is nothing but a shelter like roof shielding whatever is located beneath it? Any idea what that is? Parking? Either way it looks new..not old.

reply to post by Blaine91555


Wow, great story. Some very interesting things to ponder. I have heard similar stories about ufo's from people close to me who were also in the military, and also seemingly incapable of telling a lie. (Both Grandparents, One a fighter pilot, and one who served in the navy and went on to work in aerospace)

I find the part about the tv especially thought provoking, I guess that means that the govt is constantly monitoring every news source 24/7 and only lets out the stuff we are 'allowed" to hear.

I too found ATS through my research into fringe topics, after experiencing some very odd phenomenon throughout my life.

I would love to hear more about these events you spoke of, perhaps in detail.

Originally posted by Jason88
I like the tone that Blaine91555 has set with this thread, and his writing style as well.

I was never interested in UFOs before my experience, and to be honest I considered it a topic for the nutters out there. Well call me a nut I guess, but I am a careful believer now.


That's my story. Thanks for this thread.

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The UFO I saw was silver-gray metallic in color, Saturn-shaped with a ring around the center. It made no sound, and had two red, blinking lights on both sides of its ring. I estimated it to be about 30-40 feet in diameter. It was hovering near a radio tower for about ten to fifteen minutes and then it seemed to reorient itself at a 45 degree angle and took off.

I mean this thing was just gone, in a second or less--just went straight up into the sky and out of the atmosphere. I had never seen anything move like that, and wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself. I think I just said something like:"Holy #! What was that?"

This was in South Korea in the winter of 2001. I recently saw a 1989 video from Japan which showed a UFO very similar to the one I saw, and have seen pictures of others like it taken over the years, although it's not at all the most common type of UFO.

I didn't see any aliens, and I have the impression that this was a machine or device of some kind rather than one with "pilots", although obviously a very smart and advanced machine. I had no sense of communication with it, or even that it paid the slighest attention to me at all: it was just there for some purpose of its own, probably connected with the radio tower, and then took off when it was done. I had no sense of missing time, spatial-temporal distortion or anything like that, and never had any ill effects from it.

There were no Men in Black, CIA agents, disinformation specialists or cover ups. Nothing dramatic happened as a result, except some kidding about "little green men" and all that. I don't care: I know what I saw and it was not a bird, plane, train, swamp gas, Venus, balloon or meteorite. It was like NOTHING I've ever seen before or since.

As far as I could tell, no else knew what it was or where it came from. If they did, we sure weren't informed about it.

Originally posted by Blaine91555 Seems to be a common theme in both Religion and in encounters of the type you related. It is mentioned far to often to ignore.

Blue 'mist' is also a description of Cherenkov radiation associated with high energy fields. It is seen in nuclear reactors, around antennas like HAARP installations Here is a picture from the National MST Radar Facility in India

Usually the color is a deep blue to purplish In this image scanned from print its a bit off



It is also associated with strong magnetic fields From the LANL archives..

Cherenkov radiation by massless neutrinos in a magnetic field
arxiv.org...

Los Alamos is currently building a huge Cherenkov radiation detector

Cerenkov Radiation from a Magnetized Plasma
cdsweb.cern.ch...

Now could Magnetized Plasma have anything to do with UFO drive systems or even stealth aircraft technology?



So blue misty glows and UFO's --- just one more thing to look for

Originally posted by franspeakfree

it seems that many skeptical minded people are suddenly having a change of heart, I wonder if its anything to do with the countless of news reports in regards to ET and UFOS recently?

The fact that you are interested and have had experiences with ET through synchronicity suggests to me that you are closer to ET than you think, please tell me either on this thread or via U2U if you have had any experiences that defy scientific laws i.e communication, abduction, flash backs, missing time e.t.c e.t.c. My guess is that if you are regressed you will see that alot has been happening to you throughout your life.

Lovely story and I hope that you find what you are looking for.

I've shared what I know. I see regression therapy as a means of implanting memories and not restoring them I'm afraid. Sorry. It is likely regression is a thing that can lead to good results or bad. I have other things I could share about myself and family, but I'd rather those kinds of things come out over time in discussions.

My memories and the facts are clear as it is and I don't want to lead myself into false memories or self-embellished memories. I try not to add to what I was told or add to the facts about my own experiences as I know people can alter their own memories over time without even realizing it.

I remain skeptical of many things surrounding this topic and I think much of the madness has the opposite effect in that it makes those with experiences think long and hard about having their experience mixed in with the madness.

Perhaps the problem is with how people define the word skeptic.

reply to post by zorgon


Wow, Zorgon, thanks so much for all the pictures. I honestly think you must be the most resourceful person ever. ( I am personally google earth, challenged.) It is quite an interesting account, and the visuals add to the story. Thanks.

Originally posted by Perseus Apex
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

How do you believe your experience with ET's/UFO's has shaped your life 'personally' besides the 'experience' of it all. Do you believe the 'experience's' impacted yourself physiologically, mentally, spiritually, .....ly, etc.?

Do you believe these entities have been tracking yourself as well as your parents?
Do you believe you were and/or Are influenced by these entities at your own will or against your will?
I believe the 'folks'' would be interested to hear of any 'personal' effects of the experience/s.

(Babbs bridge),

Blaine, I am also interested as to your reply or understanding of my prior post to 'this' one concerning a particular video that explains quite a few events in recent history. The post I'm referring to was posted just prior to this one though is found in another thread. Do you understand the evidence thereOf? Do you accept it. If not, why not? We have been in one anothers shadow for quite some time now yet you have not made clear where you stand on the 'issue'.

I don't know that it changed me so much as it opened my mind to possibilities. While others accept the world as it is, I question it and its realities. Yes, it also opened my mind to spiritual issues. I don't feel it changed me in general or gave me any special insight, but it did make me open to considering more things in this world. It definitely impacted my choice of reading material.

I've had no feeling I'm being tracked or monitored in any way. I do wonder about whether or not there is a relationship between my Parents experience and what I saw myself. I have not reason to think any abduction occurred. I pretty much told all I know.

The connection with my family's land and the government facilities that are now on them and this are a leap at best. More of an interesting sidelight to this. Like anyone else, secrecy maddens me and unnecessary secrecy appalls me.

I'll read your posts when I get caught up with this as I'm at work now. Sounds like you have had some interesting experiences. I'm not sure about which video and which post you meant at the end or your post? I do want to read the accounts of your experiences, but many not get to that until tomorrow, which is a day off for me.

Originally posted by cbaskins
Do you have the original address? I would love to take a look see round the area using google earth.

Someone else asked that earlier. It's not so much an address as trying to remember from long ago where the roads were and finding them. This land is not on the beaten path but I remember landmarks that may help me find them. I'll try and do that over this weekend as I get time.

I did look for a small mining community and the old buildings at a mine my family was once involved with near there. I found it had been leveled and cleared away. Time has a way of changing things and old structures are so much junk until somebody comes along and burns them or clears them away. Last I drove through there, I had a terrible time finding things as even the highway and roads are different or moved.

Check back in a couple of days and I'll see what I can find as I can.

Originally posted by sputniksteve
I was totally unaware you were anything but a skeptic.

Thank you and I'm still the same. I remain very skeptical of many things I see here, but obviously I have a strong belief in UFO's. I think I come off as more skeptical because it is in my nature to not accept things that don't feel right to me.

I see Skeptics as being the glue that keeps the facts together and the varnish that keeps the false stuff from corroding the truth.

reply to post by observe50


Thank you and your take on my thoughts and actions are spot on. It's way more open now and I don't know if that is bad or good. Perhaps both. We get more truth, but at the same time we get more garbage to sift through.

reply to post by network dude


Elk Valley where my friend saw that is a high mountain valley. Probably two or three miles across between high peaks. What he described would be on the order of three miles across. Even though I find his description fantastic, I know he is not a person who makes these things up. He had a genuine look of terror in his eyes when he told me about that and it's the only time I've ever heard him talk about anything like that. It's like we were just sitting talking and out of the blue he comes out with his experience. I just looked at him and said nothing, knowing with him as a source I have to believe he believed what he said. The terror in his eyes though, you can't fake that. Whatever he saw was massive.

There were a couple of exploratory wells drilled up there but its so isolated they had to bring crews in by helicopter and only locals from that area go there. I went there to get my Deer every year and to escape the tourist hunters in the easy to access locations. That spot always produce a nice Buck.

reply to post by sailormon


Thank you for sharing!

That does seem to be a string that connects many of these stories I've read. The lost time I mean. I wonder how far back this all goes? I don't know the exact year of my Parents experience but from where they lived and when they lived there, I place it between 1948 and 1950.

Originally posted by sheeplemama_awakening
Thank you for sharing your story. Much food for thought.

One thing that perked my thoughts was the uranium ore on your family's land. Why are so many sightings over these uranium concentrated locations? Why would 'they' have such an attraction to that material? Now we are hearing about sightings at nuclear sights (uranium use). Is there a link between uranium and ufo's?

I wonder the same thing. I know that lots of Uranium has come from our old land and from area's around there. Also south of Grand Junction, Colorado.

As a kid while out hunting for gemstones and fossils we visited a couple of crews core drilling to locate deposits in area's my Father knew from herding cattle. We had a small pile of the Ore in our collection and I remember my Father checking it with a Geiger Counter and making sure I understood to not touch it or mess with it. It was low grade stuff though. I was very careful after he died in how I disposed of it and made sure the man it went to appreciated what the specimens were. I recall him talking once about keeping cattle away from where it was exposed. They referred to it as yellow poison or something. To many years to remember exactly.

My family found out about its value years after the land was taken.

Originally posted by Come Clean
Nice story. I do want to point out they DO pay farmers to hide missiles on their land. Back in the day they used silo's. They claimed it contained grains or whatnot. Nowadays, they keep them underground.

Some of that occurred around Pocatello, Idaho. Farmers near there in Arbon Valley had missiles on their land. The Union Pacific yards there were once a Primary Target as you had to pass through there to get freight to the West Coast. I've often wondered how they will deal with it when they remove those old facilities. I talked to a man who ran a gravel washing plant near a Phosphate plant in that area. He told an entrance was right there next to his facility and he actually watched the crews change. He was just told to never mention it but I don't think they went to any great lengths to hide it. Farmers knew and people then understood the necessity.