Britian facing new little ice age, page 1

15 Apr10 - "Temperatures are set to plummet in coming years and Britain could face a new Little Ice Age," says this article in the Daily Express.

LINK: Daily Express, www.express.co.uk...

That shocking statement came as a result of a report published today in Environmental Research Letters, which said: “Solar activity during the current sunspot minimum has fallen to levels unknown since the start of the 20th century.

LINK: www.iceagenow.com...

"The last time Britain saw these conditions was from 1645 to 1715 when frost fairs were held on the frozen surface of the Thames in central London," the article continues.

LINK: www.iceagenow.com...

The Maunder Minimum occurred during the coldest period of the Little Ice Age between 1645 and 1715 AD, when the number of sunspots was very low. It is named after British astronomer E.W. Maunder who discovered the dearth of sunspots during that period. The lack of sunspots meant that solar radiation was probably lower at this time, but models and temperature reconstructions suggest this would have reduced average global temperatures by 0.4ºC at most, which does not explain the regional cooling of the climate in Europe and North America.

LINK: www.eh-resources.org...
PICTURE OF JET STREAM: www.ldeo.columbia.edu...

"Professor Mike Lockwood from the meteorology department at the University of Reading, said there was a 10 per cent chance of Maunder minimum conditions returning within 50 years."

LINK: www.iceagenow.com...

"By recent standards, we have just had what could be called a very cold winter and I wanted to see if this was just another coincidence or statistically robust," said lead author Mike Lockwood, professor of space environment physics at the University of Reading, UK.

LINK: news.bbc.co.uk...

The Big Freeze Explained

LINK: news.bbc.co.uk...


Do not simply post articles in the forums without comment. If you feel inclined to make the board aware of current events, please post the first paragraph, a link to the entire story, AND your opinion, twist or take on the item.

reply to post by Pentothal

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Quite right. I'm a sucker for noticing wording and NLP in news broadcasts, specifically in the column inches. I genuinely feel they refer to Climate Change because the general consensus is that global warming is a load of old tosh. The public aren't convinced and we've all noticed that we're experiencing colder spells for longer and slightly more harshly than in recent years, but as you've kindly stated (I was searching for a related story, but you've saved me the trouble ) we've experienced colder spells over longer periods in the past. Much colder in fact.

reply to post by BAZ752

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I provided the links and thankyou for bringing that up that it's 'Global cooling'.

I have never believe into the trollop of 'Global warming' as I read up year's ago that it was 'Global cooling' and we have had numerous scientist's claim that it's 'global warming' and other scientist's stating it's 'global cooling'.

reply to post by DClairvoyant

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This does go a long way to showing that the weather patterns on Earth and elsewhere in the Solar system, are a cyclic and recurrent phenomena.

Not man made in other words. Perfectly natural highs and lows of temperature, cycling over centuries.

So much for 'global warming and carbon taxes' then.

Maybe this is what HAARP is really for?

Heat up the stratosphere trying to mimic the effects of UV radiation, and restore or prolong the jet-stream to prevent a 'day after tomorrow' type rapid freeze?

Plenty of mammoth corpses and other animals have been found over the years which showed they died in a 'flash freeze' event..some even had the food they were busy chewing still in their mouths when they were frozen! That's exactly how the film portrayed the rapid freezing scenario...death in seconds

reply to post by DClairvoyant

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it does to a high degree but it think ireland shelters the uk from a lot of rain from the atlantic, temp wise i would imagine it is very simular, but think percipitation could be higher in ireland(could be wrong) just wondering what effect this would have in the severe cold weather,if any!
then again if winds were coming from the north we would prob get the same weather

The public aren't convinced and we've all noticed that we're experiencing colder spells for longer and slightly more harshly than in recent years, but as you've kindly stated (I was searching for a related story, but you've saved me the trouble ) we've experienced colder spells over longer periods in the past. Much colder in fact.

reply to post by BAZ752

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Exactly the opposite is true, here where I stay. For the last couple of years, it has been getting hotter and drier. The rainfall declined massively, and the temperature are getting higher and higher. Being so hot allready, it might get nasty.

VVv

Originally posted by DClairvoyant


LINK: Daily Express, www.express.co.uk...

This article is interesting.

A report published today in Environmental Research Letters, said: “Solar activity during the current sunspot minimum has fallen to levels unknown since the start of the 20th century.
“Motivated by recent relatively cold winters in the UK, we investigated the possible connection with solar activity. The results presented here indicate that, despite hemispheric warming, the UK and Europe could experience more cold winters than during recent decades.”
Professor Mike Lockwood from the meteorology department at the University of Reading, said there was a 10 per cent chance of Maunder minimum conditions returning within 50 years. But Professor Lockwood, the lead author of the report, said winters would still not be as cold as those in the 17th and 18th centuries because of the effects of global warming.

More cold winters!
Where is the new little Ice Age? Hello, new little ice age where are you?
Where does he say that?

LINK: www.iceagenow.com...

This link is a cut an paste job from this link.
LINK: Daily Express, www.express.co.uk...

But is edits out this bit.

A report published today in Environmental Research Letters, said: “Solar activity during the current sunspot minimum has fallen to levels unknown since the start of the 20th century.
“Motivated by recent relatively cold winters in the UK, we investigated the possible connection with solar activity. The results presented here indicate that, despite hemispheric warming, the UK and Europe could experience more cold winters than during recent decades.”
Professor Mike Lockwood from the meteorology department at the University of Reading, said there was a 10 per cent chance of Maunder minimum conditions returning within 50 years. But Professor Lockwood, the lead author of the report, said winters would still not be as cold as those in the 17th and 18th centuries because of the effects of global warming.

The Maunder Minimum occurred during the coldest period of the Little Ice Age between 1645 and 1715 AD, when the number of sunspots was very low.
LINK: www.eh-resources.org...
PICTURE OF JET STREAM: www.ldeo.columbia.edu...

Yes that is interesting, but did you read this bit.

But Professor Lockwood, the lead author of the report, said winters would still not be as cold as those in the 17th and 18th centuries because of the effects of global warming.

LINK: Daily Express, www.express.co.uk...

"Professor Mike Lockwood from the meteorology department at the University of Reading, said there was a 10 per cent chance of Maunder minimum conditions returning within 50 years."

Yes he did say that, but he also qualified the type of minimum we will be having.
When he said this:

Professor Mike Lockwood from the meteorology department at the University of Reading, said there was a 10 per cent chance of Maunder minimum conditions returning within 50 years. But Professor Lockwood, the lead author of the report, said winters would still not be as cold as those in the 17th and 18th centuries because of the effects of global warming.

LINK: Daily Express, www.express.co.uk...

"By recent standards, we have just had what could be called a very cold winter and I wanted to see if this was just another coincidence or statistically robust," said lead author Mike Lockwood, professor of space environment physics at the University of Reading, UK.

LINK: news.bbc.co.uk...



It is pretty easy to leave the inconvenient truth out.(pun intended).

reply to post by spikey

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They have got the technology to mimic weather conditions to that extreme scenario. So just a thought. Keep open-minded though, that's good and it's good to question everything.

reply to post by atlasastro

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My intentions were not to mis-lead people here and leave what you call as Truth-out.

There's no such thing as 'Global Warming' only 'Global Cooling'. That's a stragedy designed by government boards to make profit out of the most of the masses from deceiving them with ridicules.

reply to post by DClairvoyant

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The article you link, say otherwise.
You failed to mention that.

Remember, this is from your source. It is funny how you only mention the bits that support your conspiracy theory.

There's no such thing as 'Global Warming' only 'Global Cooling'. That's a stragedy designed by government boards to make profit out of the most of the masses from deceiving them with ridicules.

The article states otherwise. And you know it. Time to swallow the truth mate, for a change.

LINK: Daily Express, www.express.co.uk...[

A report published today in Environmental Research Letters, said: “Solar activity during the current sunspot minimum has fallen to levels unknown since the start of the 20th century.
“Motivated by recent relatively cold winters in the UK, we investigated the possible connection with solar activity. The results presented here indicate that, despite hemispheric warming, the UK and Europe could experience more cold winters than during recent decades.”
Professor Mike Lockwood from the meteorology department at the University of Reading, said there was a 10 per cent chance of Maunder minimum conditions returning within 50 years. But Professor Lockwood, the lead author of the report, said winters would still not be as cold as those in the 17th and 18th centuries because of the effects of global warming.

Also, when you say this:

There's no such thing as 'Global Warming' only 'Global Cooling'.

The article YOU link states that although GLOBAL WARMING is happening, Europe and the UK could experience colder winters. That is all. Colder winters, no Ice Age and NO GLOBAL COOLING.

Read it mate, its from your link.

A report published today in Environmental Research Letters, said: “Solar activity during the current sunspot minimum has fallen to levels unknown since the start of the 20th century.
“Motivated by recent relatively cold winters in the UK, we investigated the possible connection with solar activity. The results presented here indicate that, despite hemispheric warming, the UK and Europe could experience more cold winters than during recent decades.”

Regardless of your intentions, you now know the truth, it is in the source you link.

The situation goes something like this...

The Ocean Conveyor (the flow of ocean currents around the world, of which the Gulf Stream forms part of), is altering in the Northern Hemisphere. This is due to Global Warming, and the rate that this has increased in recent years (man's effect), which has seen the Ice Caps of the Arctic and Greenland melt much faster than before. This sends cold fresh water into the Northern Atlantic and affects the flow of warm currents that sustain Northern Europe's temperatures during the winter months.

Evidence shows that this is already affecting the Conveyor and this is why we will have very cold winters from now on, coupled with droughts and high winds in other areas. The degree of change depends on how much we are adding to the cycle of change nature produces, and there are clear signs we are changing things more rapidly than first thought.

REF: www.whoi.edu...

This affect on the Conveyor, may also be multiplied, if we are to consider the effects of the GOM oil leak, which has supposedly directly affected the Gulf Stream (causing it to faulter in the GOM).

So, if you take natures naturally occurring cycles, throw in our effects on the planet, the melting of the Arctic and Greenland Ice Caps, and the possible damage to the Gulf Stream, then we are in for a big surprise when the 'Ice Age' descends upon us within 1-2 years and lasts for 100's!!

Reap as ye shall sow - Karma - What goes around, comes around, and all the other sayings you can think of.
We have abused this planet and raped it of it's natural resources. Never once given thought to what the long term effects might be, just in it for the short term gain, and someone else can sort the problem. We've destroyed nature and the wonderful wildlife within it, and now we start to worry. Shame we didn't live in harmony with our environment from the beginning. That it was a punishable crime to pollute or damage our surroundings. That's what I say!

We are a selfish, arrogant, uncaring and disgraceful species - unlike any other, and all the wonders that this planet gave us have been trashed within a universal blink (100 years!). Things must change, and will! 2012 may well be the start.....

reply to post by atlasastro

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For one I'm not your mate, and two thankyou for pointing your view of my thread.

reply to post by DClairvoyant

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I have used the term Mate as a colloquialism in order to communicate in a casual manner. Don't take it personal mate. Ok, mate.

But anyway, back to my posts, Found the truth a little hard to swallow there mate, did it knock you dummy out.


And, also, its not my view I am pointing out, it is the view of the article YOU linked.
It is this view I am pointing out.
LINK: Daily Express, www.express.co.uk...[

A report published today in Environmental Research Letters, said: “Solar activity during the current sunspot minimum has fallen to levels unknown since the start of the 20th century.
“Motivated by recent relatively cold winters in the UK, we investigated the possible connection with solar activity. The results presented here indicate that, despite hemispheric warming, the UK and Europe could experience more cold winters than during recent decades.”
Professor Mike Lockwood from the meteorology department at the University of Reading, said there was a 10 per cent chance of Maunder minimum conditions returning within 50 years. But Professor Lockwood, the lead author of the report, said winters would still not be as cold as those in the 17th and 18th centuries because of the effects of global warming.

The article, and the scientists quoted in the article, does not mention an ice age, or global cooling at all. It mentions global warming.
The truth hurts, but I'm here for you mate!

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