Is Porn Dangerous?

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posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 09:25 PM
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In 9th grade our biology teacher told us to masturbate...not right then and there of course. She was basically telling us that it was not only healthy , but that it removed alot of the possibility for infidelity in a relationship. Im not so sure about the latter of the two. Also Ive read in several place that men who masturbate at least 5 times a week from the ages of 20 -50 are THIRTY percent less likely to get prostate cancer or other prostate related problems. The health benifits were equally positive for women. I wont go into a whole "why masturbation is good" rant. But I think the freeing of our minds and the lifting of certain taboo behavior such as masturbation is having a positive effect on our society..

Is porn dangerous? Only to the very closed minded. This is what I believe. I did read a post earlier that briefly discussed the demographic of this site and the self awareness of most of its members, and I agree with that.
If a person feels guilt from using it...they probably shouldnt use it, so if you have moral issues with it ....dont use it.
I think alot of deviance comes from the guilt of someone doing something theyve been told they shouldnt do.
Its an inner struggle du to morals and values that have been or are still being forced upon them by people in positions of 'authority'. And unfortunately this conditioning begins at a very young age and is most of the time very difficult to shed.




posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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Good reply, good reply.

And what would you say to the authors? The same thing?

Do you really believe that it is 100% healthy to get into pornography? To become addicted?
You don't know that it can affect a household, a relationship, your morals, anything?

This isn't to change what you do, it's just about the truth of it.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by LimbicSystem
reply to post by psyko45
 


Good reply, good reply.

And what would you say to the authors? The same thing?

Do you really believe that it is 100% healthy to get into pornography? To become addicted?
You don't know that it can affect a household, a relationship, your morals, anything?

This isn't to change what you do, it's just about the truth of it.


I would say the same to the authors.

I believe it to be 100 percent healthy if it is done HONESTLY,openly, safely and responsibly. Of course one would not try to explain to a toddler the buisness of pornography, just as one would not try to explain to a toddler the buisness of being a homicide detective. (in 100 percent detail)

I do not believe it to be even 1 percent healthy to become addicted to anything.

It can only affect a household, relationship, or morals if a person is dishonest (especially with themselves) about it. When a person HAS to hide something it festers and spirals out of control. Thus creating a level of deviance in my opinion.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 09:55 PM
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Sheesh people, can't you disassociate yourselves and the defense of your habits to have a logical discussion? IMO, 99% of you are posting porn-defense because your knee-jerk reaction is that someone might be judging you!
For the sake of clarity, I am a casual viewer, but agree with the OP.

There are some really valid points against porn that have been posted here. Porn doesn't cause rape, sortof. If an individual has a personality that gravitates toward anger and wanting to control, porn provides the anonymous canvas where (s)he can dehumanize the target gender. Fact is that once you open the door, all the weird crazy stuff finds you. My preferences are towards softer and more female satisfaction oriented videos, but guess what's in the ad window next to my mellow, non-dehumanizing choice? Simulated rape vids. Really.

Porn is a drug, plain and simple. It immediately hits your brain and causes chemical reactions that are pleasurable and addictive. Many many people in our society cannot control the desire to get that high, as evidenced by need for Sex Addicts Anonymous groups across the country. The statistics are staggering as to how many people are regularly using pornography. It is changing our social fabric, there is no doubt about that. No time in history has porn been so readily available, nor has it ever been more graphic. What it will do remains to be seen. We are on the front edge of this social trend. Give it another 30-40 years and then let's discuss the social ramifications of porn, and how we might repair them.

As for "kids need it to know what to do": Oh my dear God, really? That's the best you got?! As evidenced by the thriving existence of the human species, I think that the mechanics of procreation might just be programmed into us. Before I ever saw porn I knew to dryhump my girlfriend...



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Epsillion70

Originally posted by hillbilly4rent
Is Porn Dangerous?

I heard one time if your not careful youll go blind


OH and here I was thinking it was only that someone had turned the lights out on me while I was on the internet one fateful day. That now I cant see anything clearly again after that.
Note to self; The Priests were right. No Spanking the Monkey LOL

Lmfao... Brilliant.. Ta for a good laugh..



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by blamethegreys
Sheesh people, can't you disassociate yourselves and the defense of your habits to have a logical discussion? IMO, 99% of you are posting porn-defense because your knee-jerk reaction is that someone might be judging you!
For the sake of clarity, I am a casual viewer, but agree with the OP.

There are some really valid points against porn that have been posted here. Porn doesn't cause rape, sortof. If an individual has a personality that gravitates toward anger and wanting to control, porn provides the anonymous canvas where (s)he can dehumanize the target gender. Fact is that once you open the door, all the weird crazy stuff finds you. My preferences are towards softer and more female satisfaction oriented videos, but guess what's in the ad window next to my mellow, non-dehumanizing choice? Simulated rape vids. Really.



Since it has been decided by you that 99 percent of the people posting here in defense of porn are doing so in a SELF defense posture...I woul like to point out that not only have you done the same thing with the quote I have provided, but you have added another important element...rationalization. Which we all know is an addicts best friend. You have succeeded in judging a large portion of people here while trying to defend YOUR choice of subject material. In essence saying that your viewing choices are "better" than some others may be. Very sophmoric.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 10:36 PM
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Alright, yes, that makes a lot of sense.

Any addiction can be fatal.
There are a lot of people literally addicted to porn, agreed?
And by addicted to porn, I don't mean addicted to sex. There's a difference, as crazy as it sounds.

Thank you for your post.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 11:41 PM
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Well, a lot of them do sound awfully defensive.

I mean...this isn't a thread about racism or being sexist, it's just about pornography being capable of damaging or changing the way you think over a period of time.

Having an affect on you,
and for some, a larger affect than on others.
I really didn't expect so many to reply this way.

I recently came from a post about lizard people coming to take over the world...and the comments were more, like, "WOW, that's amazing..."

Is there something in my teeth?



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 11:47 PM
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Stupid people do stupid stuff no matter what. I agree with Blue Shift when he says don't blame porn. I've watched it on occasion and I tell you, if I caught a guy raping a woman, he'd be lucky if I called the police. He might end up in some farmer's field. I hate violence against women. Porn can be an educational tool. I've gotten some pretty good moves from watching it. The women I was with sure liked them.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 11:57 PM
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Porn ofcourse is a man made thing that is neutral (in most cases) when made and is just there as a consumer product.
But then you need to think wether people take it good or bad and act accordingly. For example, perscription medicines come out with good intent, yet people abuse them with bad intent.
You need to understand that even though the human brain is fully developed when you are around 21 that it is a supermachine that is always processing information. it creates your reality.
Now i am not saying porn is bad (even though though some of it is) but after you are exposed to something alot, you seem to become desensitised to it and it becomes the norm.
best example: Smoking adds.
It should scare us to death (expecially me because i have just quit) but we are bombarded with it so much we just dont care.
Now, im sure there are people who watch porn who know that although they enjoy watching it many of the acts acted out are not to be forced on a woman and the like.
But say you were to become desensitised to it.
the way they regard women in many videos can be quite degrading and thus make the man unconciously act this way towards woman.
It could make people gain an obsession with sex therefore making them commit anti social behaviors
and im sure there are other things that i cant even think off.
Then there are the extremes, like child porn, that enable pedophiles get gratification and it could even promote their behavior. causing them to act out on the little ones.
Unfountunety, something that came out to just be a consumer product has grown into something potentialy dangerous, not by it just being porn itself but the way we chose to use it and the way we involve it in our lives.
But just as a last minitue shocker, il let you read this article.
Man who raped and killed neice



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 11:58 PM
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Thats my point, as long as you use it in the way intended it could almost be benificial.
But unfourtunetly, some people let it into there lives more than they should.
Its the way we choose to use it not the porn itself



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 12:34 AM
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I just clicked the link and read the article that you provided. I have to wonder if the guy was bent from the start. Anyone that would be attracted to that kind of material has to be more than a little on the way to psycholand. The fact that he acted on his impulses says to me that he'd been dwelling on it for a while. The porn could have tipped him even more off balance or it could just be an excuse. In the end, the guy was the only one responsible for his own actions.



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 12:40 AM
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That's very close to what I have been saying this entire time.
I mean...to have said what you said, I'm thinking you are capable of understanding it.

That person in the example was merely one example.

Several people have been just given a little shove..and they were already not right.
Maybe for some, an unhealthy addiction to porn for the majority of their life powered it, but either way, I agree...everyone has a choice and such and so on...



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 01:33 AM
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Actually you are completely off base my friend. I provided the information in order to illustrate that I was *not* making any moral judgements, nor will you find any moral judgements in my post. Postings on certain topics get heated and people start dragging out the soapboxes on both sides. By fully disclosing my actions, I was attempting to remove the soapbox, as it were. Apparently I failed you.

The latter part was included not to rationalize anything, nor to make any comment about others' habits, but to again illustrate a point, that once you enter that arena, it's no holds barred.

I was simply attempting to add to a rational, intellectual debate about the possible harm/good that comes from pornography.

Certain topics bring out the Ad Hominum attacks full force...feel free to rebut facts and points of debate, that would be refreshing.



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 01:41 AM
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it takes someone messed up in the head to go out and rape someone. even in the most extreme scenario of someone who watches a porn ABOUT rape and then goes out and rapes someone, odds are the act of watching the rape porn right before hand was just an indulgence of the preexisting desire to rape. if porn is a root cause of any of these problems then i suggest the op post an even larger more significant thread about violence int he media. violence in the media is much more widespread than sex and violence other than rape is a much bigger social problem then rape itself. i'm sorry, i just dont' see the connection.



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 01:45 AM
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Rape has not been increasing.

Here, check out this rape chart:


If you are interested in reading the full study, it is here.
Internet Porn Shown to Decrease Incidence of Rape

There's even a little conspiracy...

...President Nixon’s Commission on Obscenity and Pornography. The Commission concluded that there was no causal relationship between exposure to sexually explicit materials and delinquent or criminal behavior. The President was furious when he learned of the conclusion.

Later President Reagan tried the same thing, except unlike his predecessor he packed the Commission with persons who passed his ideological litmus test. (Small wonder that I was not asked to participate.) This time, Reagan’s Commission on Pornography reached the approved result: that there does exist a causal relationship between pornography and violent sex crimes.



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by blamethegreys
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Actually you are completely off base my friend. I provided the information in order to illustrate that I was *not* making any moral judgements, nor will you find any moral judgements in my post. Postings on certain topics get heated and people start dragging out the soapboxes on both sides. By fully disclosing my actions, I was attempting to remove the soapbox, as it were. Apparently I failed you.

The latter part was included not to rationalize anything, nor to make any comment about others' habits, but to again illustrate a point, that once you enter that arena, it's no holds barred.

I was simply attempting to add to a rational, intellectual debate about the possible harm/good that comes from pornography.

Certain topics bring out the Ad Hominum attacks full force...feel free to rebut facts and points of debate, that would be refreshing.


Well, if that's so, I have to say good work to you, then.

Sounds like you're into the discussion more than you're into the argument.
That's always nice...to see someone capable of thinking outside the box.



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by snusfanatic
it takes someone messed up in the head to go out and rape someone. even in the most extreme scenario of someone who watches a porn ABOUT rape and then goes out and rapes someone, odds are the act of watching the rape porn right before hand was just an indulgence of the preexisting desire to rape. if porn is a root cause of any of these problems then i suggest the op post an even larger more significant thread about violence int he media. violence in the media is much more widespread than sex and violence other than rape is a much bigger social problem then rape itself. i'm sorry, i just dont' see the connection.


Yeah...me either.
I once played a banjo.



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by JohnnyTHSeed
Rape has not been increasing.

Here, check out this rape chart:


If you are interested in reading the full study, it is here.
Internet Porn Shown to Decrease Incidence of Rape

There's even a little conspiracy...

...President Nixon’s Commission on Obscenity and Pornography. The Commission concluded that there was no causal relationship between exposure to sexually explicit materials and delinquent or criminal behavior. The President was furious when he learned of the conclusion.

Later President Reagan tried the same thing, except unlike his predecessor he packed the Commission with persons who passed his ideological litmus test. (Small wonder that I was not asked to participate.) This time, Reagan’s Commission on Pornography reached the approved result: that there does exist a causal relationship between pornography and violent sex crimes.


Thank you, Jon, but really, we've already been all through this throughout all of the comments....
I just don't feel like doing it again.


Porn makes too much money to be called a problem, and so you can bet that statistics that go down because the total population is going up will continue to be said to be going down.

Thank you for your repeat of what ever other person has said...I guess I should have made my post longer, but it's been over four hours and all...well, you know.

I'm tired now. Goodnight.
edit on 5-10-2010 by LimbicSystem because: Cain't read extra DIV



posted on Oct, 5 2010 @ 02:08 AM
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Hey, guys and gals, how about just to make things more interesting, let's try to find things that support this idea that porn may harm, alter the way you function.

It'll be fun, like...an actual discussion between intellectuals. That would be new, yeah? Yay...funfun.

Let's do it. Just find as much stuff to back up that porn addicts are actually very unhealthy, mentally, and whether they are porn addicts because they started watching porn or because of how they already were...That would be very good information, and would actually be something new.



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