Originally posted by Katara
reply to post by EricD
I believe that for a number of reasons the Catholic Church is hiding allot because there are some things that just don't add up to me. Like the fact
that they admit to changing the Sabbath day from a Saturday to Sunday.
Well, this "change" was to correspond with Christ's resurrection, as well as the fact the Apostles gathered on the first day of the week (which was
Sunday) to worship after Christ's death, proof of which is found in the Gospel Letters and the writings of the Early Chuch Fathers. Also, Jesus
Christ declared Himself to be "Lord of the Sabbath", therefore... I don't think the Mark of the beast is the change of the Lord's day to Sunday as
many of the Seventh Day Adventists do.
Then they refuse to answer questions which can date back to centuries on why not all of the gospels were included in the bible
provide a source for this sentence.
In my opinion ALL scriptures found should be pieced together to form one document so that regardless of the content we are given the
opportunity to decide for ourselves what's right and what's wrong.
So any person of any dubious nature could write something, declare it inspired by the Holy Spirit, and we would be subjected to it?
Christ set up His church in the Gospels of the Sacred Scripture. Not church(es). Church.
"Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I
tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the
kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
“If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. But if
they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If they
still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
“Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
He did not say "synogogue". He clearly said Church. One Church. One Flock.
Peter as the head with the keys to the Gates of Heaven, given to him by Jesus Christ himself. Peter was the leader throughout the Gospels of all
Apostles. Peter was the leader throughout the entire book of Acts. Peter stood up and initiated the action of deciding how and who to take the place
of Judas the Iscariot.
Apostle Paul instructing Timothy in his first letter to Timothy- 1 Tim 3:15
"If I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and
foundation of the truth."
I'm also upset that the families and innocent people that have died for religious wars have gone through such an agonising experience. It seems that
a whole generation was lost under the guise of the church and it's just not fair.
Was it fair for the 800-900 people beheaded by Mohammed himself in his Holy Wars against Christians? Did Jesus Christ kill a single person in His
Are all Holy Wars to be laid at the feet of the Catholic Church as their fault? Was the Pope the one at the head of the army, leading the charge?
Let's look very carefully at those wars, why they were fought. Men are fallible, and the Pope himself is fallible, only infallible regarding
official teachings on faith and morals, like the Encyclicals published, as they are believed to be guided by the Holy Spirit.
There will be many who come in my name...Christ said himself. He foretold false doctrines being taught in His name as well. He foretold that the
elect would be worn out
by the Evil One.
For the child molestation cases, they are heart breaking...
These children trusted men of God. That is inexcuseable, no matter what the faith
But your assertation of the church buying their silence is ludicrous... these cases didn't even come to light until much later, and now the church
is making monetary restitution to the victims.
I find all child abuse repugnant. One good thing is that the Catholic Church keeps such meticulous records that the priests don't just "disappear"
into the night like the laity of other churches do when their job is up. It is easy to find these creeps.