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India is increasingly feeling hemmed in by China’s military might. It lies within the arc of operations of Chinese fighter jets based in Tibet. China is building or developing large ports in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Burma, and providing all these Indian Ocean countries with significant military and economic aid.
While President Obama would like to withdraw from Afghanistan, Indian leaders remain afraid he will do precisely that. To Indians, Afghanistan is not a distant Central Asian country: it is historically part of the subcontinent. Empires as distant as the Harappans in the fourth millennium B.C. and as recent as the Mughals in the early modern era made Afghanistan, Pakistan and northern India part of the same polity. Indian elites carry this history in their bones.
India wants a relatively benign and non-fundamentalist Afghanistan as a way of limiting Pakistan’s influence in the region. (That’s why India supported the Soviet-puppet Afghan leaders in the 1980s against the C.I.A.-backed mujahedeen.)
Initially, the Afghani mineral resources were estimated at around USD 1 trillion. Now it turns out that the reserves are actually worth 3 times that initial estimate and have been presently valued at around USD 3.3 trillion. Sources have told CNBC-TV18 that being a strategic partner, Afghanistan is now actually looking at India to formalize an agreement for cooperation on mining through which Indian companies can go to Afghanistan and mine Afghani mineral resources.
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by oozyism
No offense but you are totally wrong. But nice try. Lets see we have a large country with tons and natural resources and a army 10 times the size of every one else put together. Hmm my money is on the US going to all out war to save what it has left. I wonder if history and common sense back up what I am saying?
Originally posted by ugie1028
Land grab here, land grab there, proxy war here n there....
Washington wants to increase its own exports to the region, and believes China's cheap currency is a barrier to that goal.
Chinese President Hu Jintao has said any change will only be made at Beijing's own pace.
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by oozyism
No offense but you are totally wrong. But nice try. Lets see we have a large country with tons and natural resources and a army 10 times the size of every one else put together. Hmm my money is on the US going to all out war to save what it has left. I wonder if history and common sense back up what I am saying?
Originally posted by babybunnies
This is incorrect. While the USA may spend more on its military than anyone else, by headcount, there are several militaries much stronger than the USA.
USA spends a lot of money on its military, but doesn't spend it wisely, and blabs to just about anyone who will listen as to what power they have. While there are certainly military programs that we don't know about, in comparison to other countries, US military and political secrecy is a laughing stock.
China, on the other hand, has a huge military, and not much is known about secret programs they may have. Other countries, like Russia, North Korea, Iran also may have secret weapons programs that the West knows absolutely nothing about. They also have the political and military will to use things like chemical and biological weapons when needed, without having to worry about pesky items about how their press or citizens will react when they do so.
Even with the USA's so called "superior technology" in military hardware, China would squash them like a bug, first by crashing the US economy overnight, then taking out the US military.
Believe me, in a war with China, the first plays would be total economic chaos in the USA, before the military even gets involved.
China would win in almost every conventional weapon scenario. When nuclear weapons become involved, no one wins.
Hell, the US bills themselves as "the best military in the world" but supposedly can't even find a guy on dialasys living in a cave, and has been unable to fight a poorly funded, poorly equipped, poorly trained, poorly disciplined enemy in two wars (three if you count Viet Nam), despite spending BILLIONS to do so.
You really think they stand a chance against a well funded, well equipped, well trained, well disciplined enemy, with the latest in Chinese technology backing them up?
Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by mobiusmale
The reasoning behind US collapse revolves around Afghanistan.
How will US of A get out of this mess?
In the other hand if it gets out, US won't have any allies in that region, which will also be a sign of weakness, and expect revolutions throughout the region against US presence, and against US puppets, and expect US hand to be cut from the rich oil fields. India is the only ally US have in that region, and India doesn't support a withdrawal from Afghanistan.
If India takes its support away from the US, it will join Iran/Chinese Alliance.
So the question of the collapse revolves around Afghanistan.
How many casualties is the empire willing to take?
How long before the American people wake up, and smell the mess the elites have got them in, that is when internal divisions come in play.