Facts about the recent fulfillment of Daniel chapter nine, page 4

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reply posted on 10-10-2010 @ 08:31 PM by Romantic_Rebel

reply to post by Alethea

That contradicts what the other user was saying and the term for a second coming. There is no second coming in the Talmud.
Prophets

A true prophet sent by G-d will never preach a message contrary to even one of the Torah's precepts. If someone claiming Divine Inspiration, the Torah demands that this so-called prophet prove himself. In light of this, Jesus and Paul did some rather heinous things in their lifetimes. They completely vilified those who opposed their theologies, a crime from which stems two thousand years of Christian anti-Semitism. They did everything that a false prophet could do to loudly scream that he was false. Chapters 13 and 18 of Deuteronomy clearly define false prophets, and Jesus and Paul are the living incarnations of that definition.

reply posted on 10-10-2010 @ 08:41 PM by Alpha Arietis

reply to post by Romantic_Rebel

Propaganda.

The criteria, that you refer to from the OT, for a prophet to prove himself is to simply prophesy something or many things that actually come true.

Jesus in fact prophesied that men would spill blood over the issue of his divinity until he returned (see: last 2000 years).

The prophecies concerning the Messiah reveal that the kingdom he establishes will only grow (see: last 2000 years).

...And that Gentiles would prosper under the banner of the Messiah (see: last 2000 years).

Et cetera.

reply posted on 10-10-2010 @ 08:42 PM by Romantic_Rebel

reply to post by Alpha Arietis

But can you source me that information or are you interpreting the verses wrongly. I have read numerous articles and comments and they say that people interpret the Bible and or Talmud differently. Do you agree?

reply posted on 10-10-2010 @ 08:51 PM by Alpha Arietis

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by Alpha Arietis

But can you source me that information or are you interpreting the verses wrongly. I have read numerous articles and comments and they say that people interpret the Bible and or Talmud differently. Do you agree?

Sure, I agree.

I could source the scriptures, but I don't feel like dragging my Bible out to prove anything. The scriptures are there, if you're interested you can Google them or something.

And I'm not going to spend my time trying to change your mind about anything. It actually seems like you're being argumentative for argument's sake, since you claim to be an atheist but are presenting arguments from a Jewish perspective.

I'm not really interested in defending the fact that Jesus is the Messiah. There are other threads for that. That's not what this one is about.

reply posted on 10-10-2010 @ 08:53 PM by Romantic_Rebel

reply to post by Alpha Arietis

Well that is my character. I have reasons to be argument but it is secretive for me and a select few to know why.

reply posted on 10-10-2010 @ 09:45 PM by Alpha Arietis

reply to post by Alethea

I think that the resurrection still counts as the first advent. Pretty sure.

But still, interesting thought.

reply posted on 13-11-2011 @ 05:11 AM by Maigret

reply to post by DISRAELI

The 'Abomination of Desolation' spiritually means 'a false god or idol who causes religious desolation'. For instance, anyone worshipping the Antichrist or his Image and/or receiving his mark, will be left religiously desolated, with no hope of salvation.

reply posted on 13-11-2011 @ 06:29 AM by DISRAELI

reply to post by Maigret

Thank you for that response. I think it's a good summary.
My own understanding of the point can be found in more detail in;
The Beast and the Temple

reply posted on 13-11-2011 @ 10:29 AM by TheGreatRevelation

I don't think it was just coincidence...

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