Another Udumbara Sighting?, page 1
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reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 11:51 AM by Echtelion
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Hum... Looks like Rustami didn't took his pills.


I'd post a picture of a bird with a text claiming it's the proof of the Illuminati conspiracy, and it would be more coherent than THIS.



reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 11:52 AM by Rustami
reply to post by Solasis



that is a close up of a wheel or where the stamped center meets the rim, these are not plastic guaranteed


reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 12:06 PM by Rustami
reply to post by Echtelion



"scholar", hmm-

1Corinthians-
Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

like this one?-




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reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 12:46 PM by Solasis
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How exactly would the flowers, which are notorious for growing on the inside of the fruit, appear on the tire/wheel? Are you positive theyr'e the flowers? Where do you live in the world? Does this fruit grow in your region of the world?

Tangentially, what's with the bible quotes out of nowhere explaining nothing?


reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 02:59 PM by Rustami
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udumbara are related to the fig tree-hence the scriptures, the buds and flowers appearing is what according to many if not all eastern religions is a 3000 year old mystery, I've also heard that in China under the CCP, whomsoever rejoiced (non-athiest) at the spectacle have been persecuted even violently and whatever they appeared on taken away if possible, lots of information online about it- an inspirational subject to say the least


reply posted on 3-10-2010 @ 05:35 AM by skjalddis
reply to post by Solasis



This may help explain it:

The Japanese word udonge (優曇華) was used by Dōgen Zenji to refer to the flower of the udumbara tree in chapter 68 of the Shōbōgenzō ("Treasury of the Eye of the True Dharma‎"). Dōgen places the context of the udonge flower in the Flower Sermon given by Gautama Buddha on Vulture Peak. The udonge flower may be symbolic of mind to mind transmission between the teacher and the student, in this case, Śākyamuni Buddha and Mahākāśyapa.[18]
Udonge is also used to refer to the eggs of the lacewing insect. The eggs are laid in a pattern similar to a flower, and its shape is used for divination in Asian fortune telling.[19]


en.wikipedia.org...(Buddhism)

This appears to have led to some confusion between the identity of the Udumbara flower and the Udonge as it refers to the eggs of the lacewing, leading some to believe that the lacewing eggs are actually flowers. The white stringy things on the tire iron appear to be these same eggs of the lacewing insect. There is a picture on the wikipedia page for the lacewing which shows them quite clearly (link below)

en.wikipedia.org...

Just to be sure, the confusion does not lie with the OP. It appears to be something that has occurred withing Buddhist culture. A previous thread noted a news story about a Chinese Buddhist nun who found such a 'flower' and proclaimed it to be the auspicious Udumbara flower:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
but as can be seen from the photo in the original article, this is the same lacewing insect eggs:
www.phenomenica.com...

I think that there may be some wishful thinking there amongst Chinese Buddhists that has exacerbated the confusion, but I don't think that anyone could blame them for being hopeful and looking for signs of change.

Peace
J
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reply posted on 5-10-2010 @ 09:05 PM by Rustami
reply to post by luxordelphi



Thanks and yes this was a good conversation starter (and interesting subject to me also) with a relative who is involved somehow with buddhism and martial arts stuff

this would be another in Texas assuming of course but I did read somewhere that these grow everywhere or something like that and this was up on the steel rim portion of a spare tire on an early Bronco
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reply posted on 5-10-2010 @ 11:03 PM by luxordelphi
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Thankyou for that location - it helps me with my study of this beautiful tiny flower. I, too, have read what is available on the internet and remain fascinated with the 3000 years between sightings. It is a mystery to ponder and is a time-frame that holds particular interest for me because of changes in the earth and sky which are similar to experiences that ancient peoples had as well.


reply posted on 5-10-2010 @ 11:45 PM by Rustami
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if this is kind of thing rings your bell you would probably get a kick out of this (if have'nt already)
there are alot of different sites with various info-

www.ogleearth.com...



reply posted on 8-10-2010 @ 12:11 PM by luxordelphi
reply to post by Rustami


Thankyou for that link. I had read it and it is certainly very interesting. There is another story about Udumbara called 'Udumbara flower appears at Eutelsat headquarters in Paris.' This happened in 2009 with the flower growing on a side door and prompting meditators to call for a reopening of broadcasts to China by New Tang Dynasty Television. I had forgotten about the Paris sighting and the entire event is such a subtle yet overwhelming message. The NTDT had been the only broadcast to China not censored by the CCP.


reply posted on 8-10-2010 @ 12:19 PM by luxordelphi
reply to post by Gaussq


Read your thread - very beautiful. I, too, am stunned by the parallels between the King of the Law Wheel and Jesus returning as a judge.


reply posted on 10-10-2010 @ 01:36 PM by Gaussq
reply to post by luxordelphi



Well, not Jesus being the judge but the faithful witness to the Lord of Lord´s doing the judgment. Many modern theologists have misinterpreted this. Jesus is the son of Yahweh, Jesus is not the Lord of Lords.

Anyway, the end times are here, I hope as many as possible welcome the change.
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