reply to post by DoomsdayRex
I have already made it clear exactly how unlikely it is that the US will do any damn thing to any body unless it makes them a serious boatload of
money somewhere along the line, so no, I do not subscribe to the US is the enemy angle on this issue.
I am a seeker of disclosure, however, I do not believe for one second any of the psuedo religious twaddle spouted by the GFL or any of thier
frankly laughable analouges. I feel very angry that the whole issue of disclosure by world governments as a whole has been overclouded by the
behaviour of a bunch of zealots, which as I will continue to say is not what is required here. The further ufologists (ie serious researchers,
investigators and so on) remove themselves from these moronic cultists the better in my opinion. But it is important to remember that not everyone who
wants disclosure is some earth child freak. There are a largely unheard and quite numerous group of people out there who just want to know everything
the government knows about the subject of UFO. Some people want to know because they are interested in the possibility of intelligent life, and wish
to be aware of ALL the evidence for and against, and others who merely see the subject as a matter of value for money. Thier tax dollars and pounds
went toward the complilation of the governments records on this matter, and since its a subject which is very much in the public interest, they feel
entitiled to whatever information is available.
These people are not idiots, and nor do they subscribe to a vendetta against the US government or any other. They could be considered to have a
vendetta against keeping key data on a subject considered by many to be important, secret regardless of public opinion. They could be considered to be
persons who insist that thier governments do as they are blasted well asked once in a while. I dont think you can argue against ideals as universal as
I and the people to whom I refer above, merely wish for all the data which exists on the subject of UFO to be made available to all mankind, so that
we may all research more accurately on the subject, so that our understanding of the subject is improved, so that our time need not be wasted on
previously eliminated cases, so that all the disinformation over the years can be combed over and removed from our investigations. We have no interest
in building churches to the leaders of some intergalactic super cult, we just want the truth without exception or excuses. Is there something wrong
Does being an enemy of lies and deception automaticaly bring one to blows with the US ? Of course not, not any more than it would bring one to blows
against the UK government, the Chinese, the Russian or any other nation. It is not an attack on a nation when its citizens insist on the truth. It
offers the nation in question an oppertunity to provide what has been requested, a chance to appear interested in the views of its citizens, and
willing to share with its citizenry the fruits of thier collective labours. There is no adversarial nature to that dialogue, just interest accutely
focused at groups which are likely to hold the information which is sought.
Again, twisting those ideals and assuming that the disclosure movement serves no other purpose than as an arm of an anti American shift in political
and cultural thinking is utterly invalid as a train of thought. Its inaccurate, lazy , badly thought out, and based in all the worst forms of idiocy .
Im not going to rule out that the hippy culture which has sprung up among the intellectualy stunted ufo nuts out there may be anti American. I cannot
and would not speak for them, because thier end of the movement is utterly disgusting to those of us who are actualy used to thinking , and respect
the rule of science over matters pertaining to outer space, what may live in it, and what may come from it. Thier opinions, thier arguments are so
full of logical holes that to argue against them actualy makes you dumber as you attempt to treat them as equaly valid and discussion worthy as those
of a genuine researcher. That is why when saying disclosurist, one must choose which section one is reffering to . If one is reffering to a serious
researcher, then one must make sure that ones statements fit the target , and reflect thier dilligence and seriousness about the issue, rather than
allowing one to over generalise and laugh reasonable statements off as nonsense, just because the person making them would like to see greater
transparency on this divisive but important issue.