Westpoint called us the devil chinese and I think and many others agree consititute violation of certain forum etiquette. How would you like others calling you evil americans? (I am not calling the americans evil; I am just saying this is not the type of language to be tolerated here). How am I trolling this forum while you and westpoint use this sort of abusive language while we don't?
Originally posted by devilwasp
so what they stole your tech? like the USA hasnt done it? like GB hasnt done it? like bloody germany hasnt?
look you need to figure out that china doesnt steal all of your ideas it just steals to stay in the game and protect its self.
also you say from who, ill tell you china has much land and many countries around her would like that land. i could ask the same question to you why does america need a multibillion dollar anti ballistic defense system? no one would nuke america IF they werent attaked first. for goodness sake man! did i say america is gona invade china YOU thought that up and said it, china has no need to invade any country.
hawkssss didnt need to answer you ,YOU werent talking to him. but i see how he could be mistaken. also how can you call clintin a traitor ? he was trying to improve relations with china if the two superpowers of the world are freindly then thats a good thing ,no wars.
also any country will steal better tech if it can if not to advance its tech but to see what the other country's tech can do against its tech.
Originally posted by J0HNSmith
We aren't talking about the US stealing, we aren't talking about Germany we are talking about China. your comment "so what if they stole your tech" tell it to the people they stole it from and see how they feel about your attitude. If you think it's ok and a part of life that isn't important give me your address and I'll be right over to steal your computer and your TV.
Your Comment "china doesnt steal all of your ideas it just steals to stay in the game and protect its self." is untrue, please READ my above post with examples included in it so I don't have to repeat myself.
You post seems to be addressing many different people but you reefer to them all as "you" maybe you could address each person and point directly so it sounds like less of a unguided rant.
In a final note, your comment "no one would nuke america IF they werent attaked first." Is ridiculous, if you are psychic than post in the psychic forum, if not than don't pretend to know what and why other people would do things.
Originally posted by Hawkssss
I apologize for that. Indeed, you were just calling devilwasp devil. lol
Thanks for pointing that out.
Originally posted by FreeMason
Hawkssss, while I learn more about China-Taiwan relations I become a bit more moderate towards China, I still understand one thing you seem to not understand.
America doesn't care if you build the best military on the earth because America's policy towards china has never been conventional.
If we were to ever go to war against you, you would lose 600 billion people instantly and your 30 some odd Strategic weapons would be swiftly taken care of.
That is why militarily we really do not give a crap.
Politically (because we'd really hate to turn you into a stoneage exhibit) we care much more, and because of that you seem to have some belief you are "winning" some kind of fight.
It's not a fight, we want you to be better, because better means more stable and more stability means less chance of regional dung flinging and possible rogue nuclear attacks by internal up-heavals.
This is just an easy sum-up...more complicated it would be better you know that China's goals are not militaristic either, China wants to be recognized as a Great Power, not be obliterated in a Nuclear Holocaust.
In 1975 that pretty much happend when the "1 China policy" took effect, which to the others on this board who think war with China and Taiwan is imminent, should greatly look into to realize why war with China and Taiwan and consequently the Nuclear response by America that would follow, is not imminent.
Also China's Navy is still petty compared to ours.
Oh and WestPoint's point brings up a memory, China imports most of its food from...America.
Just thought you'd want to know that
That doesn't mean America is far beyond China's reach, in fact it just means we are interdependent and both of us winning is better than both of us losing, there is no China wins or America wins. Either we win together or lose together.
WW1 and WW2 taught Europe that.
WW1 destroyed 5 empires.
WW2 destroyed many nations and 1 empire that America than had to rebuild.
The game is far different now than the way you are assuming Hawkssss.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
...why doesn't china try to build a car first then wrry about jets all you are good at is making toys for Mc Donalds
Originally posted by Hawkssss
Wow, you are kinda of sensitive, aren't you! I just read some stuff on this forum that prompted me to compile this list so that people won't make ignorant remarks such as "china can't scrap enogh money to do that" or "China can't even nuke the US" etc. If you are well aware of these facts, kudos to you. But, let's just be a little less tense, ok?
BTW, I never mentioned the Iraq situation and how to look at the US debt problem is up for grabs; even famed economists have different opionions so why can't I take a view.
Originally posted by tiger_lie1
Originally posted by xenolover
the chinese great power is to pirate and copycat other technologies and mass produce it and sold back to other....