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reply posted on 22-3-2011 @ 10:33 PM by scraze
Thanks for the story. Though it's not important what I believe: whether there really was a demon baby or not, I don't doubt you saw one. Both in the
realm of biology (species) and psychology (visual processing), we're not at the point that we can explain such 'anomalies' yet - at least not in
detail.
Speaking of detail, many accounts of mysterious creatures are quite vague. Yours however is quite detailed. It is in that aspect as well as in one of the details - the black eyes - that it reminds me of an urban legend that frequents ATS in the form of threads by members - and to my surprise hasn't been mentioned yet: Black Eyed Kids, or BEK for short. I'm not knowledgeable at all on this subject, only read a few threads - but I'll dabble with a description: basically they're kids that seem normal at first, asking for help or assistance, then turn out to have black eyes, and end up having quite the negative effect on any person that interacts with them. Here's a tiny list from a search on "BEK":
More BEKs 15-3-2011
I Let a BEK In..BIG mistake. 27-2-2011
Black Eyed Kids- Did I just have an BEK experience? 3-10-2010
These are some of the most recent threads on BEKs. They're a bit shattered across different forums. There is one obvious difference between the accounts of BEKs and yours; you saw a black eyed baby (BEB?
) instead of a kid - although time might overcome that particular discrepancy. Also, I
don't recall anything about BEKs being extraordinarily muscular or paraplegic. Still, the similarities are striking - a black eyed human (in
appearance) with an evil presence.
I'd like to ask two questions just to get a bit more grip on the account:
1. While the baby didn't move, you moved up to 15 feet from it. What is the distance you moved from? A strange question perhaps, but certain types of hallucinations can be ruled out if the baby was consistent in its three-dimensional appearance. Specifically, suggestive 'hallucinations' such as pareidolia - recognizing an evil skull in a white plastic bag alongside a dark road, for example. Obviously if you walked around the baby and still saw a baby, it cannot have been such a simple 'mishap' in visual processing.
2. Did you write down or draw any of this in the past? Like you said, memories can be skewed - way further than most people like to believe. Details get changed, erased, and even added during a lifetime of recalling memories with less than 100% accuracy. So if you have written or drawn anything of this back then, or perhaps a few years later, it would be a direct validation of your current account.
Thanks again for the story; I know you risk a certain amount of ridicule (even here on ATS). To me, it makes sense to speculate about such subjects, as we have nothing to lose in doing so. And nothing could be more inspirational in that sense than a firsthand account!
Speaking of detail, many accounts of mysterious creatures are quite vague. Yours however is quite detailed. It is in that aspect as well as in one of the details - the black eyes - that it reminds me of an urban legend that frequents ATS in the form of threads by members - and to my surprise hasn't been mentioned yet: Black Eyed Kids, or BEK for short. I'm not knowledgeable at all on this subject, only read a few threads - but I'll dabble with a description: basically they're kids that seem normal at first, asking for help or assistance, then turn out to have black eyes, and end up having quite the negative effect on any person that interacts with them. Here's a tiny list from a search on "BEK":
More BEKs 15-3-2011
I Let a BEK In..BIG mistake. 27-2-2011
Black Eyed Kids- Did I just have an BEK experience? 3-10-2010
These are some of the most recent threads on BEKs. They're a bit shattered across different forums. There is one obvious difference between the accounts of BEKs and yours; you saw a black eyed baby (BEB?
) instead of a kid - although time might overcome that particular discrepancy. Also, I
don't recall anything about BEKs being extraordinarily muscular or paraplegic. Still, the similarities are striking - a black eyed human (in
appearance) with an evil presence. I'd like to ask two questions just to get a bit more grip on the account:
1. While the baby didn't move, you moved up to 15 feet from it. What is the distance you moved from? A strange question perhaps, but certain types of hallucinations can be ruled out if the baby was consistent in its three-dimensional appearance. Specifically, suggestive 'hallucinations' such as pareidolia - recognizing an evil skull in a white plastic bag alongside a dark road, for example. Obviously if you walked around the baby and still saw a baby, it cannot have been such a simple 'mishap' in visual processing.
2. Did you write down or draw any of this in the past? Like you said, memories can be skewed - way further than most people like to believe. Details get changed, erased, and even added during a lifetime of recalling memories with less than 100% accuracy. So if you have written or drawn anything of this back then, or perhaps a few years later, it would be a direct validation of your current account.
Thanks again for the story; I know you risk a certain amount of ridicule (even here on ATS). To me, it makes sense to speculate about such subjects, as we have nothing to lose in doing so. And nothing could be more inspirational in that sense than a firsthand account!
reply posted on 23-3-2011 @ 09:50 PM by HomeBrew
reply to post by scraze
Hey, thanks for the post and questions, I'll do my best to answer.
without going back and retracing the thread, I think BEK's were mentioned early on. But if not, I still researched that thoroughly, looking for any connection to the phenomena. I came up short, and here is why.. What I saw really did not want anything to do with me, I truly believe it was cought off guard by my presence and only stared at me long enough to make heads or tails of what I was, or perhaps if I was a threat to it. it certainly made no attempt to lure me in or even communicate with me. Albeit the black eyes are parallel with BEK's, but that is where the comparison begins and ends from whT I can tell.
Interestingly enough, your question pertaining to distance has me having a mini flashback to that day. I clearly remember being perhaps 75 to 100 feet away when I first saw it begin to cross the road. At that point, I did not really know what it was aside from it apparently was something I did not easily recognize like a dog or cat. Initially I froze then trying to figure out what it was, before I continued forward. I don't really know exactly how long it was, perhaps 5 to 10 seconds later I began to walk closer to it trying to make sence of what I was seeing. Almost instantly after moving closer I knew it was human, a child/baby, and instinctively hurried towards. I remember thinking/feeling a sence of urgency to get to it and remove it from harms way.
At that point, as I got closer, perhaps 25 - 30 feet away I could start to see more subtle detail like it's shimmering, wet-like skin, it's oddly muscular definition, and it's withered legs somewhat dragging behind lifeless. Ad within the next step or two it's clear form was apparent. It was at this point it was dead smack in the middle of the road, and turned it's head my way. It made no other movement save for to look directly at me as if acknowledging I was there and yes, it saw me. I was really just in awe of what I was looking at, and soon after it focused back ahead of itself and finished drowsing the road, across the yard and aside the house in it's path.
Now remember it was not daylight out, but it was not the dead of night yet either. It was just dark enough for the street lights to have come on but certainly not dark enough to abstract my view once I was close to it. Like I said earlier in this thread, I wish I could figure out a way to logically invalidate what happened, but I have to concede that it was what it was.
Hey, thanks for the post and questions, I'll do my best to answer.
without going back and retracing the thread, I think BEK's were mentioned early on. But if not, I still researched that thoroughly, looking for any connection to the phenomena. I came up short, and here is why.. What I saw really did not want anything to do with me, I truly believe it was cought off guard by my presence and only stared at me long enough to make heads or tails of what I was, or perhaps if I was a threat to it. it certainly made no attempt to lure me in or even communicate with me. Albeit the black eyes are parallel with BEK's, but that is where the comparison begins and ends from whT I can tell.
Interestingly enough, your question pertaining to distance has me having a mini flashback to that day. I clearly remember being perhaps 75 to 100 feet away when I first saw it begin to cross the road. At that point, I did not really know what it was aside from it apparently was something I did not easily recognize like a dog or cat. Initially I froze then trying to figure out what it was, before I continued forward. I don't really know exactly how long it was, perhaps 5 to 10 seconds later I began to walk closer to it trying to make sence of what I was seeing. Almost instantly after moving closer I knew it was human, a child/baby, and instinctively hurried towards. I remember thinking/feeling a sence of urgency to get to it and remove it from harms way.
At that point, as I got closer, perhaps 25 - 30 feet away I could start to see more subtle detail like it's shimmering, wet-like skin, it's oddly muscular definition, and it's withered legs somewhat dragging behind lifeless. Ad within the next step or two it's clear form was apparent. It was at this point it was dead smack in the middle of the road, and turned it's head my way. It made no other movement save for to look directly at me as if acknowledging I was there and yes, it saw me. I was really just in awe of what I was looking at, and soon after it focused back ahead of itself and finished drowsing the road, across the yard and aside the house in it's path.
Now remember it was not daylight out, but it was not the dead of night yet either. It was just dark enough for the street lights to have come on but certainly not dark enough to abstract my view once I was close to it. Like I said earlier in this thread, I wish I could figure out a way to logically invalidate what happened, but I have to concede that it was what it was.
reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 03:07 AM by kailin
reply to post by HomeBrew
if you lived in the Philippines, you would know exactly what it was.
it's called a "tiyanak" and it's a supernatural being which appears as an infant. it usually will lie in forests or abandoned area, crying for attention. if an unfortunate individual picks it up to soothe it, then VOILA! baby's next meal. c:
if you lived in the Philippines, you would know exactly what it was.
it's called a "tiyanak" and it's a supernatural being which appears as an infant. it usually will lie in forests or abandoned area, crying for attention. if an unfortunate individual picks it up to soothe it, then VOILA! baby's next meal. c:
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