WW3 in October ?!?!

I have keep in mind the October surprise for quite a time now
we didnt see any of that surprise so far for Obama
he was only chalenged by this:

Birth certificate
Oil Spill
The Economy

I think this is it ... October Red is coming ... and my birthday is in a week
Every thing points to the summer end and early fall
i have read a thread on ATS about the date October 13 ... i dont know it might be right
its only speculation for now .. but a chance that a WW3 happen in october have never been so high

and now we have entered a stage where there is no back off .. it has started officialy with this news
Virus hits Iran nuclear programme

infecting in the same time .. China .. accident or it was intentional ?
First cyber superweapon' wreaks havoc on computers in China

The Stuxnet computer virus has been labelled as the world's "first cyber superweapon." It is speculated that it was first designed to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. However, it has found its way to millions of computers in China.
Imagine a computer virus that allows the hacker full access of critical systems. The virus can literally make factory boilers explode or make a nuclear power plant malfunction. Experts now fear that the Stuxnet computer worm has infected millions of computers around China, according to Agence-France Presse.
The Stuxnet virus – malware that copies itself and sends itself onto other computers on a network – was originally designed to sabotage plants and attack industrial systems. It is believed that it was first designed to be used as an attack against Iran’s nuclear facilities. Instead, the worm may now obliterate China’s national security because industries may collapse.

China will be pissed .. since that worm in Iran caused damage ..the worm is still expending to many computer and government computer ... i think it will continu to spread and might even spread into the American continent
i dont think Mcafee and Norton or AVG will be able to stop it ...
this is a massive cyber attack .. never seen before in human history ...
everything was prepared for that moment ...
its a strategic military victory to disable the computer with a virus
almost effective has a ICBM missile that will disable for good any electronics
by attacking Iran the people who did this have waked up a monster in China ...
many people quoted that when China will wake up ... the earth will tremble because of the massive army they have... they can occupied half of the planet with total contol if they want

adding this:
Iran Wants Revenge for Cyber Worm Ahmadinejad told Assad to prepare for Iran to strike Israel in early October

An alarmed Iran asks for outside help to stop rampaging Stuxnet malworm

Tehran this week secretly appealed to a number of computer security experts in West and East Europe with offers of handsome fees for consultations on ways to exorcize the Stuxnet worm spreading havoc through the computer networks and administrative software of its most important industrial complexes and military command centers. debkafile's intelligence and Iranian sources report Iran turned for outside help after local computer experts failed to remove the destructive virus.
None of the foreign experts has so far come forward because Tehran refuses to provide precise information on the sensitive centers and systems under attack and give the visiting specialists the locations where they would need to work. They were not told whether they would be called on to work outside Tehran or given access to affected sites to study how they function and how the malworm managed to disable them. Iran also refuses to give out data on the changes its engineers have made to imported SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) systems, mostly from Germany.
The impression debkafile sources gained Wednesday, Sept. 29 from talking to European computer experts approached for aid was that the Iranians are getting desperate. Not only have their own attempts to defeat the invading worm failed, but they made matters worse: The malworm became more aggressive and returned to the attack on parts of the systems damaged in the initial attack.

One expert said: "The Iranians have been forced to realize that they would be better off not 'irritating' the invader because it hits back with a bigger punch."

Looking beyond Iran's predicament, he wondered whether the people responsible for planting Stuxnet in Iran - and apparently continuing to offload information from its sensitive systems - have the technology for stopping its rampage. "My impression," he said, "is that somebody outside Iran has partial control at least on its spread. Can this body stop malworm in its tracks or kill it? We don't have that information at present, he said.

As it is, the Iranian officials who turned outside for help were described by another of the experts they approached as alarmed and frustrated. It has dawned on them that the trouble cannot be waved away overnight but is around for the long haul. Finding a credible specialist with the magic code for ridding them of the cyber enemy could take several months. After their own attempts to defeat Stuxnet backfired, all the Iranians can do now is to sit back and hope for the best, helpless to predict the worm's next target and which other of their strategic industries will go down or be robbed of its secrets next.

While Tehran has given out several conflicting figures on the systems and networks struck by the malworm - 30,000 to 45,000 industrial units - debkafile's sources cite security experts as putting the figure much higher, in the region of millions. If this is true, then this cyber weapon attack on Iran would be the greatest ever.

and we have all of these thread pointing to something

'2nd Lebanon War defeat was result of distance from God'

Ahmadinejad challenges Obama to TV debate on solving world's problems

'West needs to mobilize into coalition to strike Iran'

Netanyahu "We will hit with immense force"

Ahmadinejad blasts Israeli leader in Larry King interview

Economic Armageddon: Ladies and Gentlemen, the Double Dip is Here

Beirut wants Iran to equip Lebanon Army

Assad warns of growing threat of Middle East war

Iran sets major exercise; Ahmadinejad sees war by November

Iran says it has 100 vessels to confront each US warship

Israel convinces US with Credible military plan on Iran

Castro to appear on TV Monday, government says

I think now we can connect all the dots together ... WW3 is INEVITABLE ... sadly
i wish somebody somewhere would had stop all of these signs from appearing
just before the election i had hope in Obama ...i was deceived .. THE WORLD WAS DECEIVED
USA doest have a choice anymore .. only a war will save America from a complete coming depression

So lets see what choice Obama have

A) 1 big war that will save the 14 trillion debt the USA now have ... (almost at 15 trillion)
B) No war and there is no chance now that the economy can recover and all people in the usa have a good job with a good quality of life ...

Lets make a choice C) ...
USA military budget cut by at least 75%
the rest to defend America if its attacked ... why would someone attack a powerfull state like the USA ...
USA have NUKES ... oh .. its weird Aliens have start to deactivate many US nukes ...
do they know about the october surprise or what ??

i think Israel Mossad computer expert have started the hostility now maybe with the help of certain Rogue agents from the USA
THERE IS NO COINCIDENCE IN THIS ATTACK ... to Pandora box have been opened
first backlash ... once china find out whos behind that virus .. War will happen
Iran + China against Israel and the USA .. it will not end good

sadly it has to worsen to get better
lets all pray that no country will attack no country
next time that happen it will englobe earth in conflicts

I have said this many times and I don't mind saying it again. We aren't anywhere close to war with China. Why? Because the Chinese would not benefit from war with us and neither will we with them. China holds most of our debt and without some shrewed move to shore up inflation if trillions were pulled out of our economy, it would devistate us. At the same time, are the Chinese really willing to throw away their extremely large investment in the US? Is it not paying off for them?

The only way that we would see China benefitting from war with the US, is once their economy has reached the flash point, in relation to ours. You see, the Chinese economy is directly linked to our own. The Chinese are the masters of making and exporting cheap plastic crap that we like to buy. As long as we keep buying that cheap plastic crap, their economy keeps growing. They will continue to benefit until we can no longer buy their goods, in which case we will no longer benefit the Chinese.

The Chinese economy will continue to grow, as our own economy continues to slag, due to deficits. It is when their economy surpasses ours (maybe a little after that) that they are going to want to our empirical resources. Think about it for a moment... Why would China want to go to war with the US, when their economy is growing by leaps and bounds due to our trading deficits to China? Why would China want to go to war with the US when they are investing trillions of dollars into our economy?

Do you know why they are investing trillions of dollars into ur economy? It's not because they like our smile, rather it's because their own economy is benefitting on our consumerism.

It's important to distinguish diplomatic difficulties from being on the edge of war, as their is actually a lot of play and lot of field between the two.

Again, we won't see war with China anytime soon and if we do, that means that our economy would be shattered anyway and war with China will be the least of our concerns.

--airspoon

Coincidences in pictures now .. :

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/912d8f236cf4.jpg[/atsimg]

and this since the last World war ...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ed250545f439.jpg[/atsimg]

many high head of state in Israel and USA have made some AboveTopSecret plan
coincidence again that we are almost 2 yrs exactly from 2012 ? ..i dont think so

reply to post by Ben81

Id forget the Palestinians starting a war Ben,neither Egypt,Syria or Jordan is going to fight on their behalf,Israel however may come into conflict with Iran especially via their proxy army Hezbullah on the Lebanon border,but that wont start a world war.There are local hot spots the US has been bombing in Yemen and US policy in the area hinges on the Saudi Royal family staying in power but either of these wont start a world war.

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i agree with you that USA at war with China ... is like insane
and not logic at all of ever happening

But that virus messed very much they national security structure
they wont get shy to find where this massive cyber attack came from
its not a little virus ... this virus can cripple any country
it was made for that... its hard to tell if this thing can be controlled
or its like releasing something bad in the water
once its release .. its hard to contain

If china finds out .. it was Mossad .. they will go after them
Iran will help since it was also attacked
the USA wont be able to save Mossad .. for your reasons you have stated

this thread is concerning Iran not China
once it start .. china will have to perhaps choose between Iran or the USA
they cant stay neutral on that ... for their sake
USA pissed off many time china ... maybe they are testing them to see what they do
China so far have acted very wisely .. its not the case with the USA and Israel
they didnt act wisely ... and far from it

The Stuxnet virus – malware that copies itself and sends itself onto other computers on a network – was originally designed to sabotage plants and attack industrial systems. It is believed that it was first designed to be used as an attack against Iran’s nuclear facilities. Instead, the worm may now obliterate China’s national security because industries may collapse.

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First of all, let me say that Stuxnet only runs on the Windows operating system. If you're running Windows, be extremely cautious. I run Kubuntu, so these things don't trouble me.

Before you fear this worm interfering with US Gov't computers, NSA (National Security Agency) runs Security Enhanced Linux. Systems based on the Unix kernel are not in any danger. The same applies to Mac.

I have a feeling that antivirus software will recognize the worm, but will be unable to remove it. It does make sense to design an attack that could not cripple the NSA to be most effective.

None of this surprises me. I knew it was only a matter of time.

Originally posted by anglodemonicmatrix
reply to post by Ben81

 

Id forget the Palestinians starting a war Ben,neither Egypt,Syria or Jordan is going to fight on their behalf,Israel however may come into conflict with Iran especially via their proxy army Hezbullah on the Lebanon border,but that wont start a world war.There are local hot spots the US has been bombing in Yemen and US policy in the area hinges on the Saudi Royal family staying in power but either of these wont start a world war.

Pakistan have just started to block the supply route for the troops
because the US have killed so many with their drone strike
this month was the worst ... 21 drone attack ... Pakistan is pissed

USA had a great reputation and invicible reputation
now Pakistan is angry ... and a lot of other country start to realise the zionist agenda
Turkey recently joined the cause with Iran and Gaza
and they were old solid allies in the past ... until how many allies changed side .. that Obama will realise to change all foreign policies before they have no more friend ...

the saudi royal were paid so much to stay a fidel ally .. we never know what the futur holds ... in a troubled time money become far from the solution... especially to buy a loyal friend
money will no more work ..

Originally posted by RadicalGnostic
reply to post by Ben81

 

First of all, let me say that Stuxnet only runs on the Windows operating system. If you're running Windows, be extremely cautious. I run Kubuntu, so these things don't trouble me.

Before you fear this worm interfering with US Gov't computers, NSA (National Security Agency) runs Security Enhanced Linux. Systems based on the Unix kernel are not in any danger. The same applies to Mac.

I have a feeling that antivirus software will recognize the worm, but will be unable to remove it. It does make sense to design an attack that could not cripple the NSA to be most effective.

None of this surprises me. I knew it was only a matter of time.

i agree with you ..Iran dont have very advanced system for virus protection
china does ...
so far the virus is in the other side of the altantic ocean .. how long before it cross it ?
in less than 2 week .. im sure the virus will be in US and Canada .. and yes i have Windows lol
but i work in IT i know how to handle any virus

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So you work in IT and can fix it, but Iran and china are doomed?

Originally posted by whoshotJR
reply to post by Ben81

 

So you work in IT and can fix it, but Iran and china are doomed?

LOL for personnal computer yes
once it get inside a network .. its very hard to delete all part of the worm
worm are nasty .. they infect every hard drives .. even the external ones

so NO it would be a nightmare to clean out all infected PC
with a worm that can evolve itself to counter antivirus protection
i would format a infected HD in 3 seperate ways to be sure this nasty worm is deleted for good
it would take months and years to delete everytrace of it ..when a big network is infected

thats why Iran is asking for external help .. they are overwhelmed by it

Lets make a choice C) ...
USA military budget cut by at least 75%
the rest to defend America if its attacked ... why would someone attack a powerfull state like the USA ...
USA have NUKES ... oh .. its weird Aliens have start to deactivate many US nukes ...
do they know about the october surprise or what ??

touche! i was waiting for that.^^^

way to some it up and put it in plain text. its all out there for people to hear but how can we take our eyes of the distractions

Originally posted by Ben81
i agree with you ..Iran dont have very advanced system for virus protection
china does ...

How can you make that assertion. You know zero about what capabilities each country has.

I am not sure why there is such a panic - there are frequently virus outbreaks in the West, including in government institutions. There is only speculation that they are cyber warfare and no evidence to show that this is government sponsored - rather than sweaty sixteen year old having a laugh.

Poor old oppressed Iran and China. Blame everyone else to keep your people down and focussed on a common enemy, thus providing the excuse for perpetuation of dictatorship and abuse.

Regards

THERE IS NO COINCIDENCE IN THIS ATTACK ... to Pandora box have been opened
first backlash ... once china find out whos behind that virus .. War will happen
Iran + China against Israel and the USA .. it will not end good

sadly it has to worsen to get better
lets all pray that no country will attack no country
next time that happen it will englobe earth in conflicts

I'm with you on this one bro! Even though war might not break out right away it will most likely will happen sooner rather than later! Just hope Europe doesn't get involved in it.....or Finland for that matter.......oh also we're forgetting the possibility of Russia being involved in a possible "taking sides" kind of situation, of course probably siding with China on this one.......
Thanks for sharing!S&F for ya!

Regards,

ringht_n_wrong

Anyone really concerned about this worm might consider keeping their computers off line. Another preventative measure is to quit using MS products. I am using a version of Linux right now that is only 126 megabytes. That's the whole OS size. The hard drive is not even mounted and is not used unless I direct it to come to life. The OS loads entirely into RAM and when I am finished surfing and shut down, the entire session plus that copy of the OS is erased. Each time you boot up a fresh copy of the OS is used and then tossed later. So much for worms.

Really folks, it works.

tt

Originally posted by trailertrash
Anyone really concerned about this worm might consider keeping their computers off line. Another preventative measure is to quit using MS products. I am using a version of Linux right now that is only 126 megabytes. That's the whole OS size. The hard drive is not even mounted and is not used unless I direct it to come to life. The OS loads entirely into RAM and when I am finished surfing and shut down, the entire session plus that copy of the OS is erased. Each time you boot up a fresh copy of the OS is used and then tossed later. So much for worms.

Really folks, it works.

lol .. im not concerned ... even if tomorrow there is a zombie outbreak .. i would not go vacinate
its like the pandemic scare the WHO declared not to long ago about the H1N1 virus ..
everybody around me was so scare .. they all got vacinated .. i didnt want it

if im caught by a virus i will act on it ..and go heal it
same thing with this virus .. if i have it then i reinstall everything in 15 minute with my Norton ghost image
and be sure my USB external HD is off

but when huge local network are affected .. its a nightmare
millions of $ can be lost in damage
the economy will get crashed big time by the worm damage

October?....next it will be November....then December, then it was the year 2000(Y2K) now 2012...etc, etc,etc... Sorry not trying to rain on your thread but this has been going on for a long time and it has gotten comical at this point. I also forgot the US is going to strike Iran dates. It's never ending it seems. when these dates come and go, people just wait a couple of weeks then it's revised to the next month. It's a constant perpetual fear thing. Sorry I just don't buy into this stuff anymore. Nothing is going to happen in October. There is no October surprise. Come on guys, honestly look at it for what it is.

I personally don't think we'll see anything remarkable in October, however I've had this strong feeling that something BIG is going to happen in November. The Timewave Zero chart seems to point to November aswell, but the question is; what will this event be? My guess is some False Flag operation will occur and lead us into our next war, possibly with Iran or North Korea.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

Originally posted by RadicalGnostic
reply to post by Ben81

 

First of all, let me say that Stuxnet only runs on the Windows operating system. If you're running Windows, be extremely cautious. I run Kubuntu, so these things don't trouble me.

I also assume that you don't have a large industrial control system hooked up to your PC so I wouldn't worry about it either

The next time I post from inside a nuclear power plant though I'll be sure to have a knopix cd standing by

Personally I think that if we do ever find out who wrote Stuxnet it won't turn out to be a government sponsored thing,, it will be some bored 16 year old fresh from a Software Engineering course with a personal grudge against something.
If it is a weapon then it seems that the hand has been played too early giving people time to recognize and remove the threat before it actually does anything.

Also I'm going to be on holiday on the 13th, can't we move the date back a few weeks?

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So here's an unlikely idea, but an interesting one:

What if stuxnet is a virus built by extra terrestrials that is meant to infect all systems on earth. The advanced nature of the alien worm is what makes it unstoppable. Why? Either, they see our governments are about to blow us all to hell, and they intend to use it as a killswitch to stop us from destroying ourselves, or - they intend to use it to prevent retaliation and destruction when they make contact (whatever their purposes may be).

C