Mass protests rock enraged Europe: millions on strike, hundreds of thousands take to the streets, page 5


Pages: <<  2    3    4    5  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 69 times


reply posted on 1-10-2010 @ 10:32 PM by Come Clean
reply to post by googolplex



To be honest. We caused their mess. When we crash the rest of the world crashes. We told overseas investors we were a safe bet. Come to find out. It was all a pipe dream created by greedy Americans. Wealth built on lies and greed.

So if there is anyone to blame it's Americans.

edit on 1-10-2010 by Come Clean because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 1-10-2010 @ 11:00 PM by 3finjo
Originally posted by SaturnFX
reply to
post by witness63



and the hopeful outcome? now lets not get all silly and say some meaningless statement like "let the people rule".

What specifically would you want in a revolutions outcome? would you want to ensure that the unfortunates are taken care of? would you want a anarchy where its survive by your own merits? what outcome do you desire in your perfect senario?

and again, I ask for specifics...many speak of revolution, but evolve into exactly what? nobody seems to go further than that.

if you want to simply randomly shoot at people...buy a video game.


Well said! Too many armchair rebels spout off about rebellion and revolution but have no idea of what the reality of that would be. Striking generally solves nothing (yes, yes I know there are the odd exceptions). Revolution in this day and age - pointless and will lead to many innocent deaths. Grow up.



reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 12:23 AM by sum1one
reply to post by spoonbender



I live in the US too, born and raised.. and I think you hit the nail on the head. Nobody really cares until it happens to them, and as of right now the only people that are really getting hit hard are people that were already low income to medium income. All of the upper class are doing everything they can to stay upper class... in reality it seems a lot more like they're doing everything they can to make even more money - if they don't make a profit of like 100% per year they just lay more people off - no big deal. (I have no idea what the actual profit margins actually are, I'm just trying to make a point.)

It also seems like ALL of the new jobs the government has worked so hard to create fall under one of three categories: 1) Government 2) Education and 3) Healthcare - but then again, depending on how you want to look at it, all three of these could simply be classified as "Government".


reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 03:41 AM by malcr
reply to post by silent thunder



I think you've exaggerated the causes somewhat to "fit in" with myriad of moans on this site. There is only one cause : Austerity measures to pay for bankers bailouts. I suspect the Irish are about to go into meltdown with the latest news that the banks need another 16billion euros.


reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 05:01 AM by wayno
reply to post by Ex_MislTech



hmmm ... wonder if protesting in the streets would be one way of bringing in some of those steps?
sounds worth it to me.

I do agree with most, if not all of them, by the way.


reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 05:08 AM by wayno
reply to post by ArcAngel



Aren't these all of the countries that bankrupted themselves with social programs and allowing people to retire at age 55 with full pay and benefits?


Right, 90% of the world's money is in the hands of a powerful few and you are going to blame the social programs of the poor and aged? Get real.

The problem with lack of money to do things is that the super rich are hoarding it all to themselves.
My final answer!


reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 05:23 AM by Heliocentric
Let me tell you how the media works.

I live in Paris, France. In 2005, there were some riots in the poor, immigrant-dominated outskirts of Paris. When I say riots, I basically mean young kids setting cars on fire, while throwing rocks at firemen and police. It's a pretty common occurrence in Paris suburbs, but this time it spread to other similar suburbs in other cities, so it became a national event.

The media was all over this like flies on fresh cow dung. My aunt who lives in Austria called me up - real worried - and asked me if I needed to come over to Austria to take refuge, because the impression she got from watching Austrian TV was that the whole of Paris was in flames, and you could hardly go outside without getting attacked by violent rioters. Amused, I explained to her that in central Paris, not a siren could be heard, no cars burned and everything was just business as usual.

So in short it works like this, you blow it all out of proportions, the story ends up on page one, if you report it factually the story ends up in the back next to the weather section.

Lots of people only read page one.

I didn't see the riots that apparently took place in Spain a few days ago, but I did see the demonstrations that took place in France last week with my own eyes. Mainly it was just lower middle class and working class people demonstrating against a pension reform. No riots, no police cars burning.

Every European country has its particular social/economic woes, and the reasons for protesting are all different. So if you try to bunch them all up and read something out of it, you're making a conspiracy out of nothing.



edit on 2-10-2010 by Heliocentric because: Among the lilacs Lips embraced in spring's sweet air -- Petals paint the floor



reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 12:55 PM by Chevalerous
reply to post by ArcAngel





Aren't these all of the countries that bankrupted themselves with social programs and allowing people to retire at age 55 with full pay and benefits?


No my friend! most countries of Europe has an retirement age of 65 - the only Southern European country that had retirement age at 55 for public workers was Greece! and look what happened to them.

To say like you do in your statement and give the readers the impressions that all European countries are having retirement at 55 is nothing less than pure propaganda and ignorance for European politics, and ignorance about European conditions!

Listen my friend!

65 has been the age since decades ago! - and now they want to raise it to 67 in most countries.

To take the condiitions in Greece and judge all of us European by the same standards is nothing less then pure ignorance, or worse - pure evil for an agenda?



Aren't these the countries that caused the euro to dive to all time lows and are now addingvmorevdebt to the system for imminent collapse?


Well! I have to disagree with you here since most of the blame for destroying the system lies with the
Banksters on Wall Street and in financial London with their state-paper derivative-scheme.



As stated during the French revolution, you can't have your cake, and eat it too. But they are trying


OH MY GAWD! hearing those words from an American who lived his whole life with the benefits of Bretton Woods and the Petro-Dollar-Recycling system under artificial conditions, and then judge us - make me wanna throw up in my mouth!

Sincerely Yours! - your annoying European!

Please enjoy this new angle of thoughts my dear American friend!


edit on 2-10-2010 by Chevalerous because: Unexplainable anger at American idocracy!




reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 08:44 PM by googolplex
Originally posted by ArcAngel
reply to
post by dragonsmusic



Aren't these all of the countries that bankrupted themselves with social programs and allowing people to retire at age 55 with full pay and benefits? Aren't these the countries that caused the euro to dive to all time lows and are now addingvmorevdebt to the system for imminent collapse?

Yes they are.

As stated during the French revolution, you can't have your cake, and eat it too. But they are trying!

I thought Mary and Twanet said feed them cake in France when they had no food..
It is simple to have your cake and eat it too, you bake it and don't let anyone else have any.


reply posted on 2-10-2010 @ 09:00 PM by googolplex
Originally posted by Come Clean
reply to
post by googolplex



To be honest. We caused their mess. When we crash the rest of the world crashes. We told overseas investors we were a safe bet. Come to find out. It was all a pipe dream created by greedy Americans. Wealth built on lies and greed.

So if there is anyone to blame it's Americans.

edit on 1-10-2010 by Come Clean because: (no reason given)


It is always to easy to blame the Americans, this world has been a big mess way before there even was an America,

America is, was a dream, a good dream for many, a dream of hope and a better life for everyone, only thing is we have been lied to, by the very people we believed in, but not just in America, but in just about all countries.

This is a problem but really it matters little to me now, cause I see the light Brother, Sister, the Lord, Creator has grabbed me up, made me whole.
The Time is at hand The Truth is upon you, better get on board, don't want to have to catch stand by.

I'm crackin up, I said I'd die laughing, but maybe just smiling


reply posted on 4-10-2010 @ 05:07 AM by Caetano
reply to post by stupid girl



do you know what sindicates are? They have anounced a global strike for November nation wide. And yes FMI can intervene if the current government fails to pass the national budget.
Pages: <<  2    3    4    5  >>    ^^TOP^^



UN Proposes Tax On Americans for 3rd world countries
  Posted 18 days ago with 28 member flags
Armed bystander stops stabbing outside school
  Posted 12 days ago with 27 member flags
" Climate Change Is Not A Hoax", says Obama!!??
  Posted 4 days ago with 21 member flags
Former Arizona Sheriff Mack, ‘Gun Control Against the Law’
  Posted 13 days ago with 12 member flags
Limiting Freedom & It\'s Effects On Society
  Posted 17 days ago with 11 member flags