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The ATS John Titor Project
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02/28/2001 11:14 am (about the future) 560
PAMELA ASKS: 1. What type of money system do you have on your world line? meaning how do you buy and sell things? Do you have the same type of money
or do we have a cashless society? such as smart cards, credit cards or ID biochips.
I RESPOND: Its not very different than it is now. Yes, we have money and credit cards. However, like everything else, the monetary system is
decentralized. Banking is based mostly around the community structure. There are no multinational banking or computerized economic systems..there are
also no income taxes.
02/28/2001 11:14 am (about the future) 561
QUESTION ON THIS SITE: ((Is there an IRS and a need to keep a lot of receipts and paperwork around to justify yourself?))
I RESPOND: Yes, we pay taxes.. Sounds like you donít enjoy keeping track of your personal income taxes. I donít think anyone does.
MY RESPONSE TO PAMELLA: I had considered going into more detail about the tax system but I didn't have a great deal of time. Currently, I am watching
my father go over all his taxes and he doesn't look like he's having a very good time. My comment referred to the collective misery I see around me
during this time of year.
02/28/2001 12:28 pm (about time travel) 562
((In this experiment the traveler only goes 30 seconds into the past to appear in his lab. It seems that 30 seconds before his experiment was to begin
he saw himself appear in the lab. There would now be two travelers and two time machines. It doesn't appear that it ends that simply as the
"second" time traveler says that he saw a duplicate self appear in the lab thirty seconds before he started the trip. It would appear that its a
time loop and an infinite number of duplicates see a duplicate self appear in the lab thirty seconds prior to the start of the trip. ?))
Iím not positive but I donít see anything that indicates the time traveler would remain in the same spot once he arrives. 30 seconds is almost long
enough to get coffee in your thought experiment. If that were true, and they all kept moving, than the experiment could go on for quite a while until
the planet filled with time travelers. You also stated, ďit would appearĒ as a time loop. If it only appears that way, than the natural divergence may
stop the experiment when three or four time travelers arrive and the others end up on different worldlines.
02/28/2001 12:28 pm (about time travel) 563
((The problem that needs to be addressed is what happens to the duplicates as they simultaneously arrive at virtually the exact same location.?))
Again, you use the world virtually, which to me means not exactly the same spot. Under the laws of physics, I donít personally know what happens if it
were on exactly the same spot but I do know itís possible. Under the operational limits of the distortion unit, as soon as the VGL sensors pick up an
unexpected mass in the target worldline, it would shut down and drop off in a worldline where your experiment is not occurring.
02/28/2001 12:28 pm (about time travel) 564
((Given that their masses will occupy the same space, what prevents a naked singularity from forming?))
I see, now they are in the same space. I suppose thatís a possibility. If so, than the as soon as the experiment started, a singularity would form
under the infinite mass and swallow the planet. Perhaps they tried this on Cygnus?
02/28/2001 12:28 pm (about time travel) 565
((Itís a nice creative answer, but it didnít address the question. The question was is it a loop; will it decay and how long will it take to decay?))
Well, I think it's a nice creative question too. Under your example, the ďloopĒ would terminate as soon as the singularity forms and would be
constantly fed by all the arriving time travelers.
03/01/2001 11:31 am (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 566
((How come it doesn't bother you that people may die through your inaction yet you find it "morally wrong" that you might affect lives by active
I'm not sure I said it didnít bother me, I only stated I wonít interfere on purpose. Again I refer to a historical example. Before Pearl Harbor was
attacked in 1941, a small group of US soldiers were experimenting with a new technology called RADAR. As the Japanese planes were flying toward the
island, they actually picked them up in time to thwart the surprise attack. Unfortunately, they were unfamiliar with the equipment and figured it
wasnít working correctly. As you are aware, the ruthlessness of the Japanese ďsneakĒ attack galvanized the US people into entering WWII.
03/02/2001 05:46 am (about time travel) 567
((Are the singularities in your machine supposed to be offsetting the light cones of particles within itís sphere of influence allowing the world
lines of these particles to appear to loop form the perspective of particles outside the effected area?))
No, thatís not how it works. The singularities are used to manipulate gravity around the observer. The singularities do not interact with any matter
except the electrons that are injected onto its event horizon. The hazardous areas of gravity are quite small and exist only around the inner
singularity ring and another area created in the gravity sinusoid outside the vehicle.
03/02/2001 05:46 am (about time travel) 568
((I donít mean to insult you by spelling out the obvious to you so basically, but that seems the most obvious need of a singularity.?))
No insult taken. I would imagine we both agree that standing behind an operating jet engine is an unhealthy thing to do also.
03/02/2001 05:46 am (about time travel) 569
((If so, how can you account for generating a gravity well deep enough to create such a disparity between light cones without sucking the planet
through the eye of a needle?))
The gravity well created by the singularities is not that large. The portion of the field that is felt by the operator is about the equivalent of 2
Gs. I would urge you to examine a Penrose diagram for a Kerr black hole. As you are probably aware, the singularity is donut shaped and exhibits two
event horizons. The singularities are used to ďsimulateĒ a path through the center of one of these singularities which is what takes the observer to
an alternate worldline. Earlier in the thread I did go into this in a bit more detail.
03/02/2001 05:46 am (about time travel) 570
((Also, this requires motion through the space immediately influenced by the mass, yet you claim travel is accomplished while the traveler is
The unit must be stationary during operation due to the sensitivity of the gravity sensors. Any motion with an acceleration component would throw the
gravity measurement from the signularities off.
03/02/2001 08:07 am (about time travel) 571
(I postulate that you actually do not have any more of an advantage or responsibility than the person who grabs someone who is about to step off the
curb and get hit by a bus. I would not stop and think 'gee, I don't know, do they deserve to be saved from the fate of a roadkill?' A doctor or
priest does not take it upon himself to decide who should be helped. A jet pilot doesn't stop to think "Hey, air travel is pretty unnatural, these
people should have to walk and row their way to Paris. I am messing with the way time and space is perceived and the nature of reality with this form
of transportation." Time travel is just another form of transportation in one sense. Our possible new ability to time travel in the future may not
seem any more exotic than our ability to access other cultures is now.?))
I agree with this also.
03/02/2001 08:07 am (about the future) 572
((Ö are, or were, you in contact with TTs in 2036, and if so, what percentage of the people accept it as possible? After the flight of the Wright
Brothers at Kitty Hawk, it took 10 plus years for people to accept it as anything more than just an urban myth.?))
The general public was informed about time travel around 2034. Yes, I have had conversations with other time travelers on my home worldline. Your
insight on the public is more or less correct. I would say 60% of the people realize what it is and the possible implications, 20% of the people donít
care, 10% donít believe it and another 10% see it as something that should be banned and stopped.
03/02/2001 08:07 am (right now) 573
((John - commercials. They are ignorant commercials. In fact, almost every commercial on television these days are either totally stupid (so they come
out funny), or they are aimed at people whose humor suffers from being "in the black" a lot. Black humor seems to be the way things go these days. I
don't much care for it.?))
Back in the 50s and 60s, television commercials were pretty straightforward. Usually along the lines of, ďCheese! Itís good! Buy cheese.Ē In the 70s,
there was more identification with a producer or trademark but the commercials were still pretty easy to understand. ďBuy this beer, it tastes great!Ē
Today, I have no idea what some commercials are advertising until they show the logo at the end. Do you find this more effective? Only recently have I
seen this move toward dark humor. Iíve never seen anything like it before, even in ďyourĒ archives in 2036.
03/02/2001 03:14 pm (right now) 574
((Is spiritual awakening a difficult process; if yes, then why is it so difficult, and are we all capable of it?))
Personally, I believe spiritual awakening is difficult. Why? I think God wants us back but the road we have to haul is no picnic. Maybe heís a little
angry for some reason.
I think the world is seductively clever in its presentation. "It" wants us to stay here and it distracts us from God by creating want, greed and
four or five other motivations. Our goal should be to; yes, have faith and do good deeds but also look past that and have the wisdom and knowledge to
realize that this place, this world, this universe is not really our home. The question I ask myself is not can I get to God, it's am I prepared for
what will it be like when I get there.
03/02/2001 03:14 pm (about time travel) 575
((What do you see for the future of TT in your world-line?))
Thatís a good question. I am hopeful that one day when we get the planet cleaned up it will be a nice place to live on again and no one will want to
leave it. On the other hand, if time travel were commonplace right now, I think a great many people would leave and perhaps never return. There is
also a suggestion that time travel might make an interesting punishment. However, I donít think we have the right to force criminals on unsuspecting
worldlines and sending them to the Stone Age might be a bit much.
03/02/2001 03:14 pm (about the future) 576
((John,thank you for sharing,I find this fasinating.wanted to ask, has California,had"the Big" earthquake,in your time and has any of the north
Coast disappeared?..also, I really do wish that you could be a guest on Art's show,I am sure it would be enjoyable...thanks again.....Richard.?))
The big one? As you are experiencing now, there are earthquakes, storms and other unfortunate surprises from Mother Nature that have impacts on your
society and future history. That is one reason I wonít go into detail. However, donít worry too much about major portions of coastline slipping under
03/05/2001 11:32 am (about the future) 577
((What music do 20 year olds listen to.?))
People listen to all types of music. A great deal of it is available over the web. I would also add that people spend much more time making their own
03/05/2001 11:32 am (about the future) 578
((What's the future of cloning.?))
Cloning full people has been determined to be medically and ethically unsound. We do have research and progress in cloning body parts and creating
more viable sperm and egg production.