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reply posted on 24-6-2004 @ 07:25 PM by RX84
Remember that most humans have not seen greys, so we simply do not know.

Anyways, from what we do "know" about this beings, what I have figured at least, they don't need as much energy consuming as humans do, suggested by their small bodies and by their mouths.

No sex organs would suggest that these beings are not in the "man and woman" consept, but rather a kind of hive-beings. This is suppoted as most of us know, of their "non-induvidual" appearance. They could either have a queen, laying eggs. Sooner or later, another queen is born (probably more than one queen), and their "civilization" goes on.

Or, their civilization could have different stages. In the computer game "Dark Colony", their civilization does not have buildings like ours, materials formed and put to place for different purposes. Their buildings are living organic structures, producing (at least in that game) clones of the greys. These buildings in turn may have been grown out of the earth or in a lab, futhering the civilizational structure. But as for now, we just don't know.

Then what about their brains. Whales are bigger than humans, yet, they don't have any of the capabilities humans do. Whales aren't even self-aware. Three mamals on this planet are - human, ape and dolphin.

So, what am I trying to say here, that the aliens aren't self-aware, yet they can travel these distances with what seems to be crafts the size of satellites, yet humans who are self-aware only have travelled as far as to the moon? No. I'm saying that the greys themselves may not control their crafts, but their "hive brain" or some form of overlord does, assuming in first place they are hive creatures.

Maybe even their craft are living "things"? That's why animals were afraid of the debris found in Roswell - unknown to this planet, unknown to the mamalian evolution. Alien, simple and sound.

I mean, how many humans who reportedly have been abducted have known that they use materialistic stuff (knives, plates etc.)? Not seen, but know?

OR, yet another theory. The aliens are not living beings at all, they're machines. They could very likely have developed nano-tech (microscopic machines) that they in essence became it themselves, or something in that direction...


reply posted on 24-6-2004 @ 08:56 PM by Gazrok
I'm going to go with the biology as described on the old 80's UFO CoverUp Live show..(spare me the Strawberry Ice Cream comments please....). The reason for this, is that:
A: It makes common sense.
B: It is supported by witnesses.
C: It fits their apparent role.
D: It is supported by other documentation, some of which are governmental in nature.

Here's the skinny:

They are thought to be genetically engineered versions of their masters for the rigors of space travel.

1. Large cranial capacity: larger and more convoluted brain than homosapiens, thus, more intelligent.

2. Hard but flexible skeleton, more like cartilidge than bone, to handle impact. This goes along with the rubbery skin, again, more resistant to damage.

3. One Heart/Lung organ which performs both functions.

4. No reproductive organs, they are cloned.

5. One liquid waste organ which acts as the entire digestive system (this is a large organ, and has parts similar to our intestines and bladder, but are one distinct organ).

6. No hair (it is simply not needed, much as we will likely lose it all one day).

7. Large eyes (to deal with the unfiltered light of stars in space, when entering a solar system). It is also said to be quite bright on the homeworld, but most "greys" have never seen it. These eyes are double-lidded for the same reasons.

8. Small nasal slits (as scent isn't that important of a sense to their mission profile).

9. Small ears, that are covered with a membrane, almost invisible on their outer skin, but there nonetheless. Communication is telepathic, so not much use for these...

10. Small mouth, and no teeth, only a hard gumlike substance. They do not eat meat (nor could they chew most of it). That Strawberry Ice Cream doesn't sound so ridiculous anymore does it? What would YOU eat with the same limitations? Most of their meals seem to consist of a vegetable paste of some kind, which is synthesized on the ship. Their digestion is extremely efficient and results in little waste (when using this foodstuff).

11. Size is about 4 1/2 feet tall. Feet are more like a pad, though there are toe "bones" inside. Numbers of fingers vary, but most reports suggest 6 (including the thumb) and sticky "pads" on the fingertips (like mini suction cups).

Hope that helps!



reply posted on 25-6-2004 @ 10:57 AM by Gazrok
Excellent questions Opus, which is why I've never gone for the absorbing through the skin route....

Though I will also concur that there are numerous sources that support the idea...but basic common sense seems to discount it.

As for other comments, they appear (from many sources) to be a slave race created by the taller, greener versions of the Grey. Many abduction accounts have both types being in the ships, with the greys being subservient to this other type. (see the cover of Communion, regardless of what you think of Streiber, for an example of this type).

Skadi, you should really try to track down some copies of this show, and it's sequel.

In my area, when it was first televised, the news was planning all kinds of interviews after the show, to get reactions, etc. Well, that didn't happen. What did happen, was that about 2/3 of the way through, the show was terminated (though not in all areas I hear) and replaced with infomercials. When the news came on, not a whisper of the show, no apology, no explaination, etc. and no mention in the printed press either... I know of only one entity (i.e. government) who can effect such a blackout. I was there, and I remember this well.

When the second show came on UFO Coverup Live II, it was terminated after being on for only a half hour! Same story with the news blackout, etc. This was in the Tampa Bay, FL area for those curious, or who'd like to check the facts. I was on the phone with a friend during the show, and I'll never forget our reactions to the show being cut and then seeing the guy from Ronco trying to sell us a food dehydrator!



reply posted on 25-6-2004 @ 02:13 PM by sisonek
hey everyone: gazrok, do you have any suggestions for tracking down this video? i've got enough bandwidth that i could help spread a digital copy around pretty easily. i was probably too young to hear about this the first time around; what was the deal with UFO coverup live?

specifically, i was definitely old enough to see that 'alien autopsy' video when it was on tv, and fake or not the organs removed are pretty consistent with what you're saying so far -- did the coverup live video go into their anatomy at all? if not, are there any more-reliable sources than the very dodgy "alien autopsy" video for internal anatomy? if so, what was the timeframe of ufo coverup live I & II -- when were they released, etc. -- and were they widespread enough to have been able to influence anyone who would be making the alien autopsy video?

on to other points...

if we were to hypothesize that the greys are

A) similar enough to us that what we know so far about DNA applies to them
B) cloned

some of the weirdness makes a bit of sense, then, if this guy's stuff is right:

www.meduniwien.ac.at...

or even somewhat near on the money -- especially since most of our cloning experiments so far have produced animals with much-shortened telomeres; granted, there's always the "super-advanced alien technology" factor, but if we're assuming the little guys are just a race cloned to be subservient slaves, then it would make sense to make their DNA brittle enough -- ie have short enough telomeres -- that it would be difficult for them to go ahead and clone themselves.

If that was the case, all the stuff that sounds like bs re: their needing to repair their DNA or being missing certain abilities at least makes some sense if as a cloned species their dna has (possibly deliberately been) degraded and for whatever reason they can't fix it.

that's all wild speculation based on a lot of premises we don't have any knowledge of one way or the other -- "greys" exist, use dna in a similar manner to us, are a cloned slave race of another race, etc. -- but it if we for the moment assume those as a given than it would provide a possible halfway explanation for where the "fixing their dna" and the "they need certain hormones / proteins / whatever" stories come from.


reply posted on 25-6-2004 @ 03:45 PM by Gazrok
Q: specifically, i was definitely old enough to see that 'alien autopsy' video when it was on tv, and fake or not the organs removed are pretty consistent with what you're saying so far -- did the coverup live video go into their anatomy at all?

A: The production companies share some similarities, so it's possible that the faked autopsy video did use the specials as a reference...though I can't say for certain of course. In my own research (which I'd have to dust off it's so old), I noticed that many of these producers, etc. were involved with a project originally intended to educate the masses by actually publicly exhibiting alien bodies, craft, etc. This project was eventually cancelled, much to the dismay of the producers, who were shown some incredible stuff. However, this seems to point to a continuation of the projects aims, but with a different direction...education, while still maintaining plausible denial. Quite a clever method actually, and likely in the long run, it will be quite effective, if tedious for us....

Q: if not, are there any more-reliable sources than the very dodgy "alien autopsy" video for internal anatomy? if so, what was the timeframe of ufo coverup live I & II -- when were they released, etc. -- and were they widespread enough to have been able to influence anyone who would be making the alien autopsy video?

A: I've seen it before, streamed online, when doing a search. Do a google on "UFO CoverUp Live TV" and you should find it. I've simply never had the time recently to do it...though one of these days I'll make the time. I used to have it on video tape, but alas, eventually it went bad. The shows were on in the 80's (late 80's I believe). The show was nationwide, and not blacked out in all areas...many saw the whole video as originally aired, but not my area... To my knowledge, these specials, and government docs that support the anatomy (majesticdocuments.com is a good source), are the best depiction of the anatomy so far. The specials have some similarities with the "Yellow Book" (search on "Alien Yellow Book") and Lear Letter, though the specials use other references, and go into more detail than any other UFO special you have ever seen... (you'll also get the strawberry ice cream bit after watching them).
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