Stupid, stupid, stupid.

That species which is taking up the habitat of others is HUMAN BEINGS. We're taking out too many species. By some estimates, from 30,000-100,000 A YEAR !!

You can only do that so long before our own collective actions come to bite us in the arse!

Screw God, no reason to put a magical figure into this equation. It's human beings who are causing this, and it's human beings who can lessen our impacts.

Not to do so would be totally unconscionable. If you don't care about humanity, and our ability to not only survive, but thrive, for longer than a couple of centuries, in the habitable host planet called Earth, fine.. You can have your opinion. I can have mine. Your view is anti-human, and anti-stewardship. It is our moral duty to ensure the survival of our species. The best way to give ourselves such a high probability is to keep this earth habitable until our technology enables us to sufficiently leap out into the solar system and beyond. We're not there yet, therefore, we should do what we must to limit our destructive, instinctual nature to dominate and destroy everything that gets in the way of our short-sighted wants.

My statements hold truth even for humans. If our technology progresses to the point that thinking machines can replace humans, then so be it. Then humans may go extinct.

Who is to say that evolution of a species is strictly limited to direct “biological” reproduction?

What line divides us from the machines we create? The little chemical processes in a cell create a new cell structure so that the cell can reproduce. Biological organisms produce physical structures to extend their capability. What difference does it make if that structure is calcium(bone) with iron oxygen carriers(blood) or steel with metal energy carriers.

If it gets to the point that metallic organisms can recreate themselves without the help of the flesh part then life on this planet has made a critical evolution.

I am not like a lot of people, I don’t see a distinction between the stuff we create and the stuff all other life on earth creates. We are all from the earth, we are all part of natural life. The machine in a factory is a much a part of nature on earth as the leaves on the trees.

To be so full of our selves and say that we are the peak of evolution and that nothing will evolve to surpass us, so it is up to us to be the sole protector of the “earth” is narrow sighted and foolish.


If an alien showed up at a planet and seen a bunch of thinking “robots” and did a bunch of archeological work he would come to the conclusion that humans had evolved to a point where they no longer needed biological reproduction, or had any other limitations of our existing frail biology.

And that the superiority of the Homo sapiens mechnoid put all the flesh based ones at a disadvantage when traveling through the galaxy, so when that big asteroid destroyed the rock they called earth, then the non flesh version was the one that took over when they flesh version went extinct.

The life of the earth is limited. It is like worrying too much about a dent in a car. Get over it and move on. That car isn’t going to be around for the rest of your life. Don’t spend years fancying a car up, like you are going to have it for ever, You won’t. You could have a crash and total it tomorrow. Don’t put to much effort into something with a limited lifespan.

The earth could be destroyed in a year, it could be destroyed in a 100 years. But our research has told us that it will happen, sooner or later. Life is only temporary here. Our only worry should be getting off this planet as fast a possible. No holds bard!

Once we get spread out then we can do that entire goody two shoes thing.

Originally posted by Mr Tranny
To be so full of our selves and say that we are the peak of evolution and that nothing will evolve to surpass us, so it is up to us to be the sole protector of the “earth” is narrow sighted and foolish.

Nobody here is saying that.

If an alien showed up at a planet and seen a bunch of thinking “robots” and did a bunch of archeological work he would come to the conclusion that humans had evolved to a point where they no longer needed biological reproduction, or had any other limitations of our existing frail biology.

And that the superiority of the Homo sapiens mechnoid put all the flesh based ones at a disadvantage when traveling through the galaxy, so when that big asteroid destroyed the rock they called earth, then the non flesh version was the one that took over when they flesh version went extinct.

You don't know how they would see us. It's just as likely (imo, much more so) that they'd think we were too curious, yet foolish for our own good.

The life of the earth is limited. It is like worrying too much about a dent in a car. Get over it and move on. That car isn’t going to be around for the rest of your life. Don’t spend years fancying a car up, like you are going to have it for ever, You won’t. You could have a crash and total it tomorrow. Don’t put to much effort into something with a limited lifespan.

Horrible analogy. The earth may be destroyed tomorrow, but that's not something we can control now, is it? What does this have to do with ANYTHING?!

The earth could be destroyed in a year, it could be destroyed in a 100 years. But our research has told us that it will happen, sooner or later. Life is only temporary here. Our only worry should be getting off this planet as fast a possible. No holds bard!

Once we get spread out then we can do that entire goody two shoes thing.

It's not about the earth being destroyed, it's not even about it being entirely uninhabitable, it's about it not being habitable for humanity in a way that could be either productive towards our continuation of civilization and technology that would enable us to leap out into space in future generations. We're so close, yet so far away. To give way to apathy now is bloody retarded.

Originally posted by Mr Tranny

What line divides us from the machines we create? The little chemical processes in a cell create a new cell structure so that the cell can reproduce. Biological organisms produce physical structures to extend their capability. What difference does it make if that structure is calcium(bone) with iron oxygen carriers(blood) or steel with metal energy carriers.

I have a fairly good background in science. There is is big difference between animal and plant cells. We are made of the exact same molecules but arranged in different molecular stuctions and compounds. Did you know a spiders exoskeleton is identical to the molecular stucture in sugar? That you and I are made with the same molecules as a birch tree? I'd have to side with (blood) over metal but the metal is also what is killing off all species. Which metal energy carriers do you refer to?