Originally posted by Bun-G
reply to post by Jakes51
He doesn't need to skirt the issue on his nuclear ambitions for his Country. He is the leader of his Country, he has allowed nuclear inspectors full
access & has abided by all terms set in the nuclear treatie ( I can't remember what it's called) What gives America any right to say he Iran cannot
use Nuclear power?
When has the US said Iran is prohibited to have nuclear power? I think the position is they are concerned about what is going on under the guise of
nuclear power for energy? They have not allowed full access to their nuclear sites by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Below is the most
recent update on the official findings by the IAEA. The quote is found on page 10 from the report.
Implementation of the NPT Safeguards Agreement and relevant provisions
of Security Council resolutions in the
Islamic Republic of Iran
Iran objected to the designation of two inspectors who had recently conducted inspections in Iran.
The Agency rejects the basis upon which Iran has sought to justify its objection; it is also concerned
that the repeated objection to the designation of experienced inspectors hampers the inspection process
and detracts from the Agency's ability to implement safeguards in Iran.
So, now Iran is dictating to the IAEA about whom can enter the country and whom cannot as inspectors? It seems heck of a lot like obstruction to me?
Just to clear things up, Iran has not been completely forthright about their activities, and have not given unfettered access to weapons inspectors.
Originally posted by Bun-G
Why don't they look at Israel, who have an estimated 5000 nukes? who will not sign the nuke treaty. Is it because a bunch of Zionists run America? Is
it because America have given Israel the nukes?
The international community has questioned Israel about their nuclear activities. They remain to hold the stance of neither confirming or denying
their possession of nuclear weapons. Although, everyone knows they have them after the revelations made by Dimona Reactor employee, Mordecai Vanunu in
1986. No one knows how many nuclear weapons Israel has, but that 5,000 figure you mentioned I think relates to how many nukes the US has at
operational capacity. The only information we have on their stockpile of nuclear weapons is from 1986 and Vanunu's estimates and data.
According to Vanunu's data, the solid plutonium spheres for Israel's nuclear weapons weighed 4.4 kilograms. He also said that Israel had produced
100 to 200 advanced fission bombs by 1986, had mastered a thermonuclear design, and appeared to have a number of thermonuclear bombs ready for use.
Contrary to what everyone believes, it was France who assisted Israel the most in their pursuits for nuclear power and allegedly a nuclear weapon.
Franco-Israeli nuclear cooperation is described in detail in the book "Les Deux Bombes" (1982) by French journalist Pierre Pean, who gained access
to the official French files on Dimona. The book revealed that the Dimona's cooling circuits were built two to three times larger than necessary for
the 26-megawatt reactor Dimona was supposed to be--proof that it had always been intended to make bomb quantities of plutonium. The book also revealed
that French technicians had built a plutonium extraction plant at the same site. According to Pean, French nuclear assistance enabled Israel to
produce enough plutonium for one bomb even before the 1967 Six Day War. France also gave Israel nuclear weapon design information.
So, it was not the US who helped Israel develop nuclear weapons or gave them the technology, but France and in secret. After they had learned about
Israel's activities in the 60s, they more or less turned a blind eye to the whole thing. It seems the US was still concerned about the prospect of
Israel having nuclear weapons, because through out their development they were being spied on by the Central Intelligence Agency.
CIA reveals: We said in 1974 that
Israel had nuclear weapons
The Central Intelligence Agency, backed by bodies including the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research and the Defense Intelligence
Agency, determined in August 1974 that Israel had nuclear "weapons in being," a "small number" of which it "produced and stockpiled."
Israel was also suspected of providing nuclear materials, equipment or technology to Iran, South Africa and other then-friendly countries.
Why the US has not been more forceful in pressuring Israel to declare their weapons capabilities is beyond me? However, perhaps political reasons
then, and pressure from the Jewish lobby within the US? It seems that during Israel's alleged nuclear weapons program, the US was in silent protest
and opposition during the affair. After it was complete, it would have backed the US into a corner politically due to their stance of
non-proliferation during the Cold War and even today. So, if Israel publicly declares they have nuclear weapons, what good would come of it? People
could spout all day about them being hypocrites, but it does not negate the fact that Israel has nuclear weapons. In the aftermath, the world would
have a new arms race in the Middle East, while adding more pressure on Israel as well as the United States.
Originally posted by Bun-G
It's always the same old response. He'll wipe Israel of the map, when he said the Zionist leaders of Israel should be wiped from the pages of time,
he's a nut job. blah blah bloody blah.
"Iran is a police state, with a horrible human rights record, and run by fanatical theocracy. If one talks about anything other than the official
government policy, they are thrown in prison or executed. If anything it was rather amusing watching a lackey spout off about international issues
which in all entirety he has no say in what his country does regarding them. "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones."
America is a police state that sells the idea of freedom but infringes most peoples personal freedoms. America executes prisoners on deathrow by
leathal injection, firing squad, gassing, hanging & electric chair, depending on the state.
Those who live in glass house's shouldnt throw stones hey?
Oh yeah this is not america bashing, I love the country & one day would like to live there, but some people just dont have a clue
By his rhetoric and remarks, he has a frosty disposition toward Israel. Every time, he is asked a question, he goes off on one of his tangents instead
of getting to the point. He was all over the place during that Larry King interview. Now, does US have internal problems? Yes, and you pointed out
some of it. However, what does that have to do with Iran's nuclear activities? Can the US be considered hypocrites on certain policies and decisions?
Yes, but what country is perfect or utopian in how it is run? None of them are, and the Islamic Republic of Iran is no exception. Thanks for the