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Originally posted by Ben81
reply to post by sinohptik

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Oh .. then can you teach me
i know im very close to something .. i will let it come naturaly
how can you OBE ?.. i have trouble meditating .. cant concentrate
my mind thinks of all kind of things to block me from doing that

why ?

There are a lot of people "very close to something" You have made the right choice to let it come naturally, as it would have anyway.

All i learned from doing OBE work is that I have the same infinity IBE.

In meditation, it is not a matter of concentration, but at finding the inner "silence" in which every-thing is painted. It is experiential and beyond words and even thoughts themselves. That is what one must find for themselves. But, for this one, there is no within or without. It is all part of the same, awe-inspiring, complicated system. First you must let yourself, be, "naturally." it is beyond your concepts of it, and it is those very concepts themselves. Either way, seeing oneself beyond the minds beliefs and quantified concepts is what you currently seek. It is already there, just let it shine through. What you are looking for has been happening since before you were born, and will continue after you die. It is happening right now, and has since the moment of your birth and will be until the moment of your death. But you must choose for yourself. Crazy mad programming skills there, i tell you what

If you feel you must concentrate, make it on flowing love. If its going to be a single thing, instead of the no-thing, then it might as well be that!

It is a redefinition of "self." "You are that which you observe"

Best of luck and love my friend

Originally posted by sinohptik

Originally posted by Ben81
reply to post by sinohptik

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Oh .. then can you teach me
i know im very close to something .. i will let it come naturaly
how can you OBE ?.. i have trouble meditating .. cant concentrate
my mind thinks of all kind of things to block me from doing that

why ?

There are a lot of people "very close to something" You have made the right choice to let it come naturally, as it would have anyway.

All i learned from doing OBE work is that I have the same infinity IBE.

In meditation, it is not a matter of concentration, but at finding the inner "silence" in which every-thing is painted. It is experiential and beyond words and even thoughts themselves. That is what one must find for themselves. But, for this one, there is no within or without. It is all part of the same, awe-inspiring, complicated system. First you must let yourself, be, "naturally." it is beyond your concepts of it, and it is those very concepts themselves. Either way, seeing oneself beyond the minds beliefs and quantified concepts is what you currently seek. It is already there, just let it shine through. What you are looking for has been happening since before you were born, and will continue after you die. It is happening right now, and has since the moment of your birth and will be until the moment of your death. But you must choose for yourself. Crazy mad programming skills there, i tell you what

If you feel you must concentrate, make it on flowing love. If its going to be a single thing, instead of the no-thing, then it might as well be that!

It is a redefinition of "self." "You are that which you observe"

Best of luck and love my friend

edit on 14-1-2011 by sinohptik because: superior formatting.. and phonetics.. of justice!

i guess... i will continu to live on faith and trust in my ultimate destiny.. in short terms i will make it happen naturaly.. we are all different with different skills and gift.. if somethings happen to you or to me .. then it was ment to happen

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