E.M.S - Enlightment Measurement Scale (Cat 1 to 6) ... take THE test !!

Originally posted by Thibotham
reply to post by Ben81

 

There is nothing enlightened about the entire test.

Seriously, there is nothing enlightened about believing in an imaginary figure and enjoying quotes from a 2000 year old story book.

You have a LONG LONG way to go, towards being enlightened on ANY level.

I agree.. there is nothing enlightenen in all of my post or thread
or any threads on ATS.. we all are the same ... humans writing on a conspiracy website on the WWW
for everyone to see ..
my words are has much important has your words

i see that you are a strong skeptic debunker in paranormal subject
do you beleive in something .. do you beleive that we all have a soul to take care .. ??
thats why we have to start with our soul first .. before considering helping others ..
once you have a straight balanced mind .. you can acheive many good things
thats the thread idea ... spreading good though to troubled mind
who are always pessimist at life ..
some have hate other have fear... a person who suffer from those are negatives..
tell me if you see something negative ... yes its far from a negative thread
like many now say on ATS on their good bye .. Love and Light
this thread is nothing more than Love and Light figuratively speaking

i picked the bible quote .. because it was a good quote ...
i dont bother if it what made by a imaginary friend 2000 yrs ago
it could be made yesterday.. i wouldnt bother
after watching the book of Eli movie .. i decided .. to only use ONE religious quote
what is the problem again ?

Originally posted by wigit
Dammit! I only got to 2.5. I thought I'd have done far better.

lol .. there is no race
once you discovers that you have a soul that cant die
you will be able to go much higher

Enlightment mean walking a righteousness path until the end ...

Thanks for this E.M Scale pretty accurate. Good job.
I am currently a 4.5 on the scale. I can't wait to be able to have a OBE when ever i want.

reply to post by Ben81


What are you talking about?

Let's see.. in order to even get past part 1, you have to believe in aliens / angels / god.

Then it goes on.. More God Stuff, Auras, Afterlife Dimensions, OBEs, etc.

It's a just a list stating what some severely deluded and ignorant person thinks they are, and apparently that's enlightened. I always thought enlightened actually meant spiritually aware, not dumb.

You should be asking yourself questions about what you actually believe and try some critical thinking.

Originally posted by Thibotham
reply to post by Ben81

 

What are you talking about?

Let's see.. in order to even get past part 1, you have to believe in aliens / angels / god.

Then it goes on.. More God Stuff, Auras, Afterlife Dimensions, OBEs, etc.

It's a just a list stating what some severely deluded and ignorant person thinks they are, and apparently that's enlightened. I always thought enlightened actually meant spiritually aware, not dumb.

You should be asking yourself questions about what you actually believe and try some critical thinking.

Anger Control plz..show some humility .. if its not to much asking

no you dont have to beleive in Aliens or God ... its only a line in the test ...
to have a good philosophy you dont need Aliens or Angel ..
if yes .. it just show that you beleive that superior being exist
it makes you a open minded person not thinking that you are the only one powerfull in the univers

this thread is to wake up the spiritual awareness in all of us
sorry it didnt vibrate in you

What do you think aboul souls now ??
is the real question to you

thank you

I didn't mean to sound negative in my earlier post. I think you have put together an interesting scale that one can measure one's soul progress by. Kinda impressive really,
Star and flag.

reply to post by Ben81


I feel I am somewhere in there but not sure were. I still have way to go but I dont think I am a low cat. mabey same as you OP. I liked this thread S&F and I may want to expose others to this train of thought.

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
I didn't mean to sound negative in my earlier post. I think you have put together an interesting scale that one can measure one's soul progress by. Kinda impressive really,
Star and flag.

You didnt sound at all negative and thank you for the impressive comment

the 4 quotes that you listed can be true
when a person is looking for something it can trouble the mind
always looking for something makes Anxiety

Anxiety symptoms, anxiety attack symptoms: There are over 100 symptoms of anxiety.
Because each person has a unique chemical make up, the type, number, intensity, and frequency of anxiety symptoms will vary from person to person. For example, one person may have just one mild anxiety symptom, whereas another may have all anxiety symptoms and to great severity. All combinations are common.

Anxiety Symptoms

but looking for Peace & Love & Light ... there is no anxiety symptoms at all coming with the search

How about one more number behind scale 6 :

7: You finally stopped thinking in 'scales' and 'levels' and pushing people in boxes and you realize now that we are spiritually all the same. There are no scales to divide us.

Originally posted by GypsK
How about one more number behind scale 6 :

7: You finally stopped thinking in 'scales' and 'levels' and pushing people in boxes and you realize now that we are spiritually all the same. There are no scales to divide us.

edit on 27/9/2010 by GypsK because: typo

I agree

Even the Wind, Water, Fire, Earth are destroyers to us
but they are also the 4 most important thing to us

they are both .. Vilain and Savior
we are all connected to them so much and they are not even alive ...

Water and Earth = makes life
Wind is needed to substain it

Mix all of them together .. and you have Hurricane Flooding Earthquake and Tsunamies
we can go so much deeped i know
but we need to look into ourself first before we can understand such amazing power

I agree with the Level 7 .. when you realise you are connected to everything and everything is connected to you has 1....
lets say its part of the level 6 .. Ascension or supreme enlightment mean you have succeeded connecting everything

double post

reply to post by ohsnaptruth


I must agree with the "God is Everything" part. Who says that the "creator" can't make the cosmos from his own image or "self" ?... we are all part of him and can thankfully do great things as well.
I don't like calling what I think of as "god" as a "creator" necessarily (because the term seems to conform it into an "individual" ), but is perhaps, the best way to say it....
if anyone has an easier, more understandable term, feel free to drop a line.

Otherwise I'm somewhere between 4 and 4.5 and feel stuck for some reason. I feel alone on this quest...
and as the time stretches before me it seems more and more like I'm not gonna make it.
I'm just being pessimistic ... that happens when I stay in my room all day.

I do still like and appreciate the post! Thanks!

reply to post by Ben81


When I said there are no levels or catagories I was serious, didn't mean to make it a 'part' of nr 6

I understand your scales and they are probably very useful to a lot of people who share your experiences/beliefs,
to my beliefs however, no living being comes into this existence 'un-enlightened'. When eventually the curtain falls we are still enlightened, only an experience richer, but still 'enlightened'
How can we not be, when we created all of this experience ourselves and out of what we truely are?
This life is merely an illusion and so is the concept of enlightement... we are what we are, here and beyond the illusion... no need for scales
IMO and in my perception

still like the thread though

reply to post by Ben81


There is no "creator" nor is there a "supreme being".

Thinking that way is simply putting restraint and limits on your spirituality, it also requires belief without proof which is a sign of ignorance.

How can you take a human concept to explain what is not human or beyond human comprehension? The idea of a creator is totally a human concept, how can we use it to describe how the universe came to be? We are not beyond the universe, we are barley beyond our selves.

Part of becoming enlightened is realizing there are things beyond our comprehension.

Taking a bunch of new age terms and asking if you believe in them as a test for enlightenment is ridiculous.

reply to post by GypsK


The only important part is
Earth need peoples with enlightment ideas not enlighten beings
if that happen one day .. GREED will no more exist
Peace on earth will be possible

reply to post by GypsK


no need for scales! Agreed!
Was my first intention too, but i wanted to play the game...
I think many people that arent as far in their mind this is like a little mindmap of what is still possible...

But also i think it is once again the typical altruism of the (ego)self to measure and interpret s.th. to put it into a type of list or scale... Typical scientific method without great value...

Also as i have just mentioned, i really think that some experiences can come earlier, and some later.
(just think of your healing issue... )

I fully agree on your last post...
The experience is what makes the tiny difference...

Originally posted by JimIrie
reply to post by GypsK

The experience is what makes the tiny difference...

I also agree
everyone in their life will have experiences that makes us who we are
and its with those experiences that we can choose the right path and not the dark path
this is freewill

reply to post by Ben81


Yup, but to choose the dark path is also the attribute of free will!
Not that i am for doing it but i am for free choice... that everyone must decide by its own!
Decision!
... that is maybe one of the coreparts of it all...

And by the way, i would like to offer everyone the possibility to do the decision for their own spritual development and the lightside by inviting YOU to my thread series down in my signature...
(You can get to the parts by clicking on the roman numbers...)

reply to post by JimIrie


Your spiritual series are great ..
very detailed i need to start to read them to (long read)
you can invite anyone looking for love and light
only ATS rules apply to this thread

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
The only certainty I am sure of is that anyone who claims to know doesn't.
He who claims to have found nirvana surely hasn't.

I agree with this guy:

"What I sought I could not find.
When I abandoned seeking I found.
What I thought I had found was only my arrogance.
When I abandoned my arrogance I found myself seeking."

- Brahma Parimshtivaya

Exactly, that is why I have always said that true enlightenment could never be realized by oneself. Others may label someone an 'Enlightened One' because of the sheer greatness of the wisdom he speaks, but if that person is truly enlightened, he will not know it nor say it, he will simply only be it. To say "I am this much enlightened, or that much enlightened." makes no sense, and if you read further into Buddha Gautama's teachings you will understand why.