Originally posted by American Mad Man
Originally posted by SABRE
I doubt switch blades existance & even if it does I dnt see anu use of it with U-2 & SR-71 BlackBird serving in Recond department & B-1, B-2 serving
in bombing department.
I don't know what you mean by doubting it's existance? If you mean the design, well, you are just wrong. Check the US patent office. It is not a
If you mean an actual working aircraft, then I tend to agree with you.
The switchblade would not perform any of the tasks that the planes you mentioned do. It would be a high speed fighter bomber, able to fly undetected
through enemy airspace at great speed, and atttack a ground target while also being able to go head to head with any enemy fighter it came across.
I don't know where you are getting the recon mission - I have never heard of that
I ment the second...actual AirCraft.....almost every one in the military avaiation industry knws that switchblade plans were there.
It is considered as RECON AC cause NASA wants/wanted it to fly high altitute & USAF wants/wanted it to fly high altitude undetected...So the 1st
impression was that it was successor of U-2 & SR-71 (Which it still could be) but than reports came out saying that switchblade will be used as
replacement of B-2 Bombers which are on stealth but cant fly high altitude & super sonic speed.
Anyways a NASA version could still be a RECON AC....that is if Switchblade exists or is going to.
RajKhalsa I wont tell u what I do but I'll tell u this, when Chinese & Pakistanis make any weapon or AirCraft I am one of the 1st guys to come to knw
abt it..even before the project is physicaly started.
PAK-FA is nothing but S-40 BIRKUT with wings swept back again....dnt act like an Indian patriotic guy, become emotional & attack a Pakistani guy. Be
reasonable. I stopped being that when I was a kid, R u still a kid???
Ask ur on Aviation experts (that is if u knw any of them) they'll tell u the same thing that it is based on Birkut.
Now being rational Birkut is a great AC, it could have had an immidiate success equalent to F-22. But it had its bad luck. The swept forward wings
made the ntire AC unstable which was good cause it gave it super manuverbility but it failed to deliver weapons. 1st impression was that it was cause
of the swept 4ward wings but than a swept back ward wing design was tested on Super Computer Sim & all physics laws were applied. The Aircraft simply
lost its Super manuverbility, & yet again showed failure to deliver weapons properly. Although the error was technical, found & corrected but the
entire project lost its importance.
Almost all the Military Aviation companies release their informations & reports on various topics & problems to their govt (I doubt if there is any
company which doesnt)....& if ur an influencial person u can get them no matter in what country u r...I got some of the Russian reports in 2003-4.
They were from Mikayon Growich Corp (MiG Corp) & SUKHIO Industries (makers of Su-24, 25, 27/30/35/37, 34 & S-40 Birkut)......It is clearly & publicaly
mentioned in Sukhio reports that PAK-FA is a swept backed version of S-40. Because the design had to be changed the AC has lost many of its super
features. According to that report by taking the wings backwards the AC turns back into Su-27/30 with stealth capability but performance will remain
same. Hence S-40 is nothing but stealthy Su-27/30 with swept back wings & internal Bomb-Bay there fore PAK-FA would be Su-27/30 with internal bombay &
stealth capability. It will be immidiate success over LockHeed-Martin's JSF-35 but will be no where near to F/A-22.
PAK-FA will have greater Air To Air attack than JSF-35 but when matched against F/A-22 it would give F-22 some fight but still come out looser.
Russians should have lernt from Americans. When USAF found that YF-23 shares features from X-29 project they just rejected it, other wise YF-23 is the
only AC which can scare F-22 pilot. In some areas YF-23 is superior to F-22.
abt Pakistan helping China with J-XX...its an old news & even Indians knw it. It was even made public...this is during the time when Clinton visited
India. USA warned Pakistan of participating with China on any of such projects but with all the sanctions already on Pakistan did not care & went
ahead. Few months back Italian team visited Pakistan for radar deals & on behalf of China Pakistan asked for some short assistance for J-XX project,
similar requests were made from France. Both countries agreed to consider when EU would lift the ban on arms sales to China. Now that EU has agreed
Italy & France r showing their interests but the thing is China has managed the project alone infact WS-10 Engines r ready & are now functional on
some of the J-10s. China has also completed the new Radar.
Both WS-10 & new un-named radar would be placed on J-10 which will make it better than Su-27 (this has lead China to cancel Su-27 production cause
they can make some thing even better)....the new CAC program of light weight AC is also almost complete & is said to be better than Su-30MKI...&
offcourse J-XX.....it is no where close to F-22 but would give alot of scare to LockHeed-Martin's JSF-35.
Russia at 1st had asked China to get into joint venture for PAK-FA as they had superior aviation industry compared to India but with J-XX already
approaved China rejected the participation but than Indians joined in & promissed financial venture only while Russia will take care of technical.
I guess u ppl (Indians) r realy getting scared of China's success in advanced military aircraft production & its promiss to Pakistan to provide them
as well with these AirCrafts. According to JANES since J-XX might be supported by some of the western countries it is probably going to be better than
PAK-FA, besides that Chinese r 5 yrs ahead of Russians.
Now be reasonable person & dnt judge every thing emotionaly & go anit-china & Pakistan.
I have my touch with AirCrafts for a long time now & I have sources at some of the big aviation companies....all though I am more concerned with Wind
Tunnel only I do get the taste of Avionics, Specifications, & the complete AirCraft.
Since 1998-99 (age 18) I have been in the cockpit of F-7PG, Q-5, F-16, Super Muhahq, K-8 of PAF, from PLAAF I have had my butt into Su-27, JH-7, J-8 &
witnessed the flight of JF-17/FC-1 in Pakistan & visited J-10 in person.
I got into the cocket of Russian Su-37 (verient of Su-30) in Brazil & Russian pilots gave me complete tour of Su-37's cocket & 3 yrs back I flew for
the 1st time in the fighter jet, a MiG-29, in Moscow with a Co. Russian pilot. I flew for 20 mins....18 mins the Russian co. pilot flew & let me fly
for 2 mins. The greatest experiance of life time. Those pilots gave me SUKHIO & MiG Corp. Reports.
That above pic of J-XX is fake...its streached out MiG-29... J-XX has thick nose & cockpit section, the mid section is curves down & tail is supported
by two tilted tail wings....It will either remind u off a dinosour or a flying lizard. J-XX has no canards so if u see any J-XX pic with canards its
Chinese kids have habit of releasing fake pics....they even edited the pic of EF-2000 & called it J-10 while J-10 dint even come close to the
resemblance. There is only one official pic of J-XX & one official model that u see abpve.
The canard Aircraft is MiG-1.42, which is a failed project but as a tech demon has given away a great technology out look. MiG will soon be releasing
a desing based on MiG-1.42 for the 5th Gen AC that will actualy be equalent to F-22. It is said to be better than Chinese J-XX, PAK-FA, JSF-35, & may
can easily go against EF-2000 & Rafale & give them a good fight. It would be the only fighter that would force an F-22 into a Dog Fight. It is said
that the new MiG (right now refered to as "Super MiG" ) would have a picture radar being developed by MiG corp...it will flash lights & with in
seconds bring in clear pics of any thing in the skies. Since F-22s r stealth, the pic radar will be the only thing to detect it. Once on picture the
radar will indicate the possition from where the pic was taken. This radar will also work at night (Chinese r also saud to be making such radaer but
niether I nor the ppl i knw in this field have any info n this)
[edit on 14-3-2005 by SABRE]