Can someone explain to me what the Tea Party movement actually is

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posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 06:22 AM
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reply to post by Curiousisall
 


Asking for a national list when the tea parties are a collective of small groups around the country and not one huge national party like the Democrats and Republicans is kinda silly honestly. I already posted evidence that your thoughts are incorrect. Well before you even posted actually. It is not my responsibility to do your research for you, if you want to learn more beyond what I've already provided it's on you to find it not me.




posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 07:26 AM
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Get over yourself, please. I am not asking you to do my research. I am not asking you to do anything at all. If you want to tell me I am wrong, then prove it or move along. In December when it is apparent the TP was supporting all these independants I will be the first to recant. Until then, yeah I think I will stick with my perception that the TP is supporting Republicans all while pretending not to be. If it really upsets you, do something about who the TP is supporting.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 08:18 AM
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3 themes i have heard from the tea party:

1...take back the country
2...give freedoms back
3...smaller government

all 3 are lacking in detail, and if given any detail, most of the consequences are left out or not fully explained.
the few that have details do not benefit the middle class or poor
therefore, my conclusion is that it is a movement that i do not agree with.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 09:13 AM
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Teaparty members are honest, confused and hard working people who have been hopelessly fooled and duped by their own government/party operatives.

They represent....
Goldman Sacks, Exxon, Pfizer, Citi-bank, McDonald's, Kraft, Blue Cross, Anthem, Northrop, Dynetics, Lockheed, Halliburton, General Electric, ATT ....etc. etc.

Corporations are deeply concerned that people (this Obama Admin) are wise to their deceptive advertising, deplorable, extremely dangerous work conditions, habit of exporting jobs for profits, shoddy products, war mongering....They are worried this administration will not permit them to grow unabated, reaping the disproportionate, insane profits they have grown accustomed to by screwing the consumer and the worker. They are frightened to the core...regulations that might effectively PROTECT THE CONSUMER AND PROTECT the rights of THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES, may be put in place.

They have people believing we cannot have both safety and low prices. They have people convinced regulations will force them out of business and so we say "OK...lets forget about those nasty regulations - You go ahead and pollute at will."
We worry about the next generation when it comes to DEBT but we could all care less if they have good air quality. The wealthy will be able to afford tanks of fresh air while those who were not wise investors... die. This is survival of the fittest at it's finest. The NEW and improved, AMERICAN WAY.

So...They have hired strategists, public relations firms, news agencies, political organizations, publicity firms and lobbyists to gin up the populace and warn them against any change.

They hired Glenn Beck to play the flute and tell people "AMERICA" and all it stands for is in danger.
To speak out both sides of his mouth so quickly people can hardly tell when the hood is pulled over their heads and Sean Hannity whacks them good and hard with a Goldline goldbar.

Guessing "people" will not look too deeply into why we may need 'new" regulatory measures before rejecting them. In the same way we might have seen the housing crisis coming. If these lunatics and hired clowns can effectively distract peoples attention from so many looming, impending dangers (the gulf spill was another great example of one of these impending dangers) if they can make it sound and appear as if the peoples constitutional rights are being taken away, they will be able to distract them from targeting the real and genuine threats they face from the unfettered growth of these giant conglomerates.

The tea party group consist largely of appropriately disgruntled citizens....But they are very much like MK Ultra trained operatives - placed out on the streets doing the bidding for the big corporations so they don't have to get out there and hold the signs up themselves.

The entire Tea Party movement is exactly like the thieves themselves telling homeowners they ought NEVER resort to adopting a guard dog.
Our founding fathers did not intend for you to adopt a dang dirty dog.
We are not a dog country!

You have to feed dogs. Dogs have fleas. Dogs poo all over the place.

And it cannot be denied...dogs must be fed, have fleas and poo all over the place.

But they conveniently (?) (NO! Calculatedly and deliberately) forget to tell you....
Dogs are also very effective at keeping the stinking thieves off your porch and away from your valuables. Dogs will prevent the crooks from taking everything you own of value and leaving you with nothing, but your now useless, gun.



edit on 29-9-2010 by rusethorcain because: typo



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 09:29 AM
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No, not at all. That's why you asked for more after I had already provided proof.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Jenna
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No, not at all. That's why you asked for more after I had already provided proof.


You did not like my OPINION so I asked you to prove it wrong. You never did. I could care less, if you stop trying to tell me what to think, I will not need you to back anything up. You think what you want, I will think what I want. If you ever come across some rock solid proof that my opinion is deluded, then please post it. Until then, stop whining that I am asking you for things when you are attacking my viewpoint for no reason.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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I already posted it, I responded to you to point that out since it was obvious you missed it. It's not my fault you prefer to ignore the evidence that was presented. There's no need to be so defensive.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 10:28 AM
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I looked at your proof.
I still believe the TP is supporting Republicans while claiming they are not.
Nothing in your proof made me change my mind.
I am not being defensive, I just do not agree with you. I have noticed that it apparently a huge sin on ATS for me.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 10:54 AM
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So you're admitting that even when shown evidence to the contrary, you choose to ignore whatever doesn't fit with your preconceived notions?



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 10:55 AM
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As usual, Matt Taibbi puts it succinctly:


A hall full of elderly white people in Medicare-paid scooters, railing against government spending and imagining themselves revolutionaries as they cheer on the vice-presidential puppet hand-picked by the GOP establishment. If there exists a better snapshot of everything the Tea Party represents, I can’t imagine it.


www.rollingstone.com...




posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 11:04 AM
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No, what I am saying is that just because some TP is supporting some Independant for county clerk somewhere in Delaware does nothing to sway my opinion that the Tea Party is trying to present itself as something other than the GOP all while supporting the GOP agenda and GOP candidates.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 11:09 AM
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I provided a link to a list of 80 libertarians and you said they must be lying, how is that not ignoring the evidence in front of you?



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by Jenna
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I provided a link to a list of 80 libertarians and you said they must be lying, how is that not ignoring the evidence in front of you?


I accused someone of lying? When? Can you please remind me. I do not feel I can fully address your constant defensive barking until you clear it up a little for me. Thank you.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Curiousisall

I looked at your proof.
I still believe the TP is supporting Republicans while claiming they are not.
Nothing in your proof made me change my mind.


Right there, plain as day. The list was of 80 libertarians up for office across the country who have the support of just one tea party out of hundreds. Yet you still believe they are "supporting Republicans while claiming they are not." Either you're calling those libertarians liars, or you're calling the tea party who put up the list liars. Either way you're ignoring the evidence right in front of you because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions.

Regardless, this back and forth is going exactly as I said it would. Should you become capable of responding without snide comments let me know, till then I'm bowing out simply because I have more important things that need my attention and have no more time to waste on brick walls with obvious agendas. Feel free to have the last word.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jenna

Originally posted by Curiousisall

I looked at your proof.
I still believe the TP is supporting Republicans while claiming they are not.
Nothing in your proof made me change my mind.


Right there, plain as day. The list was of 80 libertarians up for office across the country who have the support of just one tea party out of hundreds. Yet you still believe they are "supporting Republicans while claiming they are not." Either you're calling those libertarians liars, or you're calling the tea party who put up the list liars. Either way you're ignoring the evidence right in front of you because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions.


You are really kind of backing up what I said. You have one small group of people that claim to be part of the "TP movement." They are not THE TEA PARTY though are they? They do not speak for or represent all TP folks, do they? NO. They represent what they, that one small group thinks and that is it. I am looking at the TP on a national level and I still see what I say I see.

The reason I think you are helping is because if you really believed what you are going on and on about is so obviously true, you would have overloaded me with evidence, lists, groups, data, whatever. Instead you keep harping on this one little group. I find that rather telling.



Regardless, this back and forth is going exactly as I said it would. Should you become capable of responding without snide comments let me know, till then I'm bowing out simply because I have more important things that need my attention and have no more time to waste on brick walls with obvious agendas. Feel free to have the last word.


Right back atcha!



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 12:56 PM
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Ok, i take it back. This is my last post. I haven't overwhelmed you with evidence because I've posted so much in all these threads that I don't feel it necessary to repeat myself for the hundredth time here. I gave you am example. If you want more you can easily find it yourself instead of pretending i am somehow responsible for making sure you know everything there is to know about who each tea party supports. You won't find a nation wide consensus because it doesn't exist. The tea parties are a movement, not a cohesive political party.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Jenna
The tea parties are a movement, not a cohesive political party.


Who are not supporting or backing Democrats and Independants like they would be if they were actually just average everyguys like they claim. You need to understand that Libertarian is not Democrat or Independant. You proved NOTHING.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by SeventhSeal
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Yep, the Righties bashed the Liberals for calling Bush hitler when he invaded TWO countries and had over 500,000 Iraqis slaughtered and when he lead the campaign against gay rights. Oh and let's not forget about wiretapping.

What are the same conservatives doing now? Calling the current president a Nazi...and a Communist...and a Socialist...and Fascist..and a Marxist.

Pick one already you morons!


Morons eh. You know what they say about people like you who have to resort to name calling. I could but I won't.

All I care about is that many American are not buying your BS, one iota. The "Great Humbling" may be just around the corner. And it will be well deserved!!!!

So, I prefer to stand quietly on the sidelines and let the results of the November 2nd election do the talking for me. Just keep posting your crap for all of us to see. The postings of the desperate will continue to deteriorate as the election draw near.

Then the real only question left to answer is whether you rabid name-callers will show up the next day to reap what you sow.

November the 3rd should be an interesting day on ATS.

I'll be here, will you?



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Curiousisall

Originally posted by Jenna
The tea parties are a movement, not a cohesive political party.


Who are not supporting or backing Democrats and Independants like they would be if they were actually just average everyguys like they claim. You need to understand that Libertarian is not Democrat or Independant. You proved NOTHING.


If you can't see what's going on in this country, you have to have your head in the sand.

It's my firm belief that what Jenna has posted is an actual representation of the Tea Party and its members. Too bad you don't understand. She tried, but you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink..

Your "proof" is just around the corner. See you on the 3rd and please leave your rose-colored glasses at home!

Credit to Jenna for the effort of stating the facts as we see them.


As for me, I "never wise up a chump" and let the chips fall where they may.



posted on Sep, 29 2010 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Curiousisall
You need to understand that Libertarian is not Democrat or Independant.


They aren't Republicans either. Or is everything other than a Democrat or Independent a Republican in your world?



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