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Ohio Democrat Curses Voters Who Oppose Health Care Law

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posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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Sounds like a targeted deflection tactic to me, in all honesty.

There is a bill in Ohio to jack the cigarette tax another $2.50 per pack and if they can keep people's minds on something else they won't have to dodge bullets (literally) if they railroad that $2.50 tax on through.

The Dems in Ohio are in a very poor position right now politically. Personally, I think all it would take is one more bombshell to come out about Gov. Strickland (D) appointees to kill most all Democrats chances in the election. Except the ones in the Cleveland area. Nothing phases that cesspool.




posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 09:14 PM
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it is the only defense and only offense with its intention anger and hatred and clouding any rational thought.

the reason it is used so much its because its clearly so effective.


reminds me of the flak cheny taking for dropping the f bomb.



this thread was a great read through



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by Kaploink
How dare that Anti-American socialist Muslim loving liberal call those that opposed giving their fellow citizens at least basic health care a name. Just because many of those opposed already had government provided health care or put corporate profit before the health of others doesn't mean they deserve such name calling. The fact that some claimed that others less fortunate simply didn't deserve health care doesn't mean they should be called names either. Besides, there will be a special place in Hell for these people that opposed helping their fellow men due to greed or selflessness. .


I'm sure you didn't intend to, but you are making a lot of assumptions, such as, people opposed to the health care bill don't care about others, and don't want "less fortunate ones" to have health care.

The fact is most people that I know are opposed to the health care bill, because the government already has some programs out there that could be expanded to cover more people, IF that was the real reason for proposing the bill. Also, a lot of people don't like the idea that, through this bill, they can be monitored and forced to participate in medical treatment and interventions they don't want. AND because unfortunately, the government can't adequately monitor the assistance programs they already have, to stop the fraud and abuse from occurring, and I can't see this program being any different.

What the government SHOULD be doing, is making it possible for people to get their insurance from ANY insurance company, similar to car insurance. Instead, in most areas there is only one insurance company that insures the large part of the population, thus, there is no incentive for the insurance company to be competetive, since there is no competition. Basically, it's government approved price fixing.

I just went to a finance meeting at our neighborhood K-12 school. The meeting was for the purpose of explaining why a levy was to be placed on the ballot in November.

One of the things they touched on was how expenses were going to go for the next few years. One specific area they touched on was health insurance costs.

Cost for 2011 went up 7 %.

Cost for 2012 expected to go up 18%.

This outrageous increase was stated to be a consequence of the Obama Health Care Bill.

My husband and I just received our advance notice of our annual health insurance sign up from his place of employment. The paperwork said that now we can insure our adult children up to the age of 26. I guess since we are already on a family plan, that we can insure them on our policy for the price of the family plan, but what will happen to the cost of that plan due to that mandate. We don't have the information on the cost of the plan for this year yet, but I'd be willing to bet that it will go up substantially.

Don't you think that the money for this will have to come from somewhere? Where do you suppose the insurance companies will make up the difference?

And what do you think will happen to our taxes because of this?

Since there are better ways of handling the problem of some people being uninsured, I think the real reason for this bill being so urgently passed (without being read, no doubt) is CONTROL.

One more big step to more control over individuals. Now that this mandated program that is an open ended license to monitor us has been put in place, what is the next thing the government is going to force you to do.

Because you know, government control is a monster that will evolve over time.



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 11:39 PM
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Cleveland may be a cesspool, I don't know, because the closest I've ever been to Cleveland is Cedar Point, but not ALL politicians from Cleveland are creatures from the cesspool.

I have great respect for Dennis Kucinich, and I'd be more than happy if he moved to Cincinnati. I'd definitely vote for him for my rep. I don't agree with ALL of his ideas, but he is heads above most of the rest.




posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 12:30 AM
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Ah Dennis, I know that he is a hero to a number of people here. But the true is that he had about $20 to his name when he started his first campaign into politics and is worth quite a bit now. Self made man or back room deals under the table?

Also look at his stance on the HCR Bill. He was a major Dem opponent until the end and toed the party line after having a talking to.

Frankly my opinion of Dennis is that he was told to follow lock step with Ron Paul and be the Democrat version of RP. Unfortunately, when it came down to it, his true colors have shown when the time was right. Now, whether that was part of the game plan as well remains to be seen.

John Boehner, who is my Rep. did have my support because he did a favor for me once when he was still new in the House. He has since became a little too big for his britches and needs to be publicly taken down a peg or two. And to be honest, I am not above doing just that. I am on his e-mailing list and could make the trip to one of his town hall meetings to have a word with him and be nice enough to ask if he wants it privately or publicly---since he did do me a favor once after all.



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
All of them say things in private the would make a sailor blush. They are using all of us.

I don't understand how someone can be happy with the status quo, with the exception of those who are feeble of mind or those that are easily conned by the most blatant of snake oil salesmen.

I don't think that one party is better than any other in the end. But, as long as there are people that shop on QVC, there will be people voting for Republicans and Democrats.

You also might be surprised if you tried to start your own party with whatever ideals you have. If you start to get any groundswell of popularity amongst the voting public, we will be hearing all sorts of vulgarity coming 'from you', matters not that you didn't say any of it! They will tar and feather you and say that you did it to yourself with your own stick!


Whatever.

I was and am responding to the claim the the this is going to somehow help the Tea Party and that the Tea Party is somehow better than this when it is pretty clear that the people the Tea Party have been getting behind are no different. It is just that simple.


edit on 24-9-2010 by Curiousisall because: fix quote



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
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Pardon me, but you don't seem to understand....

I don't give a *blank* what they say. They can say the 'F'word all they want in public or private. Either or all three parties do it and they use the 'N' word too, whether you like to believe it or not.

I know, because I am of African descent and I can pass for a white guy. I grew up in a hillbilly community in the Appalachians. I have heard the 'N' word plenty of times from people that YOU would least expect it from. I emphasized YOU, because I am not the naive one here, I know better.

So.... No, I am not contradicting myself here. I want the existing parties to lose their stranglehold on our political system. I don't care how much they put their feet in their mouths.

Please show me where I have said something different.



You are right in that I do not understand. Let me show you what you said, again.

Originally posted by butcherguy
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I will be happy to see the tea party gain some steam from this incident, along with the many others that have taken place.


So a Democrat uses the F word and you hope that the Tea Party which includes Paladino gains some steam because a Republican using the N word is somehow better?



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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Here is the deal. I'll try my best to make it simple for you.

I don't like Republicans.
I don't like Democrats.
I don't even like the Tea Party.

You have to admit this.... The 'D' and 'R' parties have a lock on the political power in this country.
And I don't like that.

Now listen with your ears... I am not about the Tea Party gaining power, but , more importantly, I am all about the other two parties LOSING POWER.

If the Tea Party helps to bust up their nice little consolidation of power, I am all for that.

Split a pie in three (or hundreds, like in Italy) or four pieces instead of two. Spreads it out a little more, not too many getting HALF of the pie!

Now face this, you have made sure to beat up on the Tea Party, you have made a point to bash the Republicans.

So why don't you go lick your master's heels in the Democratic Party.







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posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Curiousisall
 
Here is the deal. I'll try my best to make it simple for you.

I don't like Republicans.
I don't like Democrats.
I don't even like the Tea Party.

You have to admit this.... The 'D' and 'R' parties have a lock on the political power in this country.
And I don't like that.


You are right there. Something different would be nice. Unfortunately you seem to think the Tea Party is in some way different than the above. Tell me how many of the candidates being supported by the Tea Party havea TP after their name. How many have an R?


Now listen with your ears... I am not about the Tea Party gaining power, but , more importantly, I am all about the other two parties LOSING POWER.


Which makes no sense for many reasons but mainly because I cannot hear printed words. Your computer sounds like fun. Losing power? Losing it to whom? You are all about Republicans and Democrats losing power to more Republicans?


If the Tea Party helps to bust up their nice little consolidation of power, I am all for that.




Really? This thread right here you are complaining about the vulgar language used by a big D. You hope that Republicans that use vulgar language will change that and stop big Ds and big Rs from using vulgar language?


Split a pie in three (or hundreds, like in Italy) or four pieces instead of two. Spreads it out a little more, not too many getting HALF of the pie!


LOL! That would make sense too if the Tea Party were actually something different from the GOP. Now it is just Rs finding a way to get 2/3 of the pie.


Now face this, you have made sure to beat up on the Tea Party, you have made a point to bash the Republicans.


I have really only pointed out some issues that happen to plague that one group. Amazing how you were able to apply it so easily to both isn't it? Think about that for a bit.


So why don't you go lick your master's heels in the Democratic Party.



Too much fun watching you kiss the Republican behind because they said they are now called something new and exciting.



posted on Sep, 27 2010 @ 07:02 AM
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I am going to have to chalk all this up to you being a sheep with the wool pulled down well over your eyes.

If it isn't that it must be a reading comprehension problem that you have.



posted on Sep, 27 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by Curiousisall




Now listen with your ears... I am not about the Tea Party gaining power, but , more importantly, I am all about the other two parties LOSING POWER.


Which makes no sense for many reasons but mainly because I cannot hear printed words. Your computer sounds like fun. Losing power? Losing it to whom? You are all about Republicans and Democrats losing power to more Republicans?
'Listen with your ears' is a quote from a TV personality......

Judge Judy.


Loosely translated.... It means: Pay attention.


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posted on Sep, 27 2010 @ 07:14 AM
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Really? This thread right here you are complaining about the vulgar language used by a big D. You hope that Republicans that use vulgar language will change that and stop big Ds and big Rs from using vulgar language?
I believe that I said this:




Pardon me, but you don't seem to understand.... I don't give a *blank* what they say. They can say the 'F'word all they want in public or private. Either or all three parties do it and they use the 'N' word too, whether you like to believe it or not.
I guess I should have told you to listen with your ears when I 'typed' that one, eh?

Please tell me again how I am complaining about vulgar language?

Or as Frasier asked Cliff on the old NBC hit comedy series, 'Cheers'....

"What color is the sky in your world, Cliff?"


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