Dieting and Exercise Aren't Effective Fat Loss Tools

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posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by zerbot565
reply to post by Albastion
 


you do realize that the majority of people who die from cancer have never smoked
and guess what
majority of people who die, die prematurely under the age of 70
and guess what
smokers tend to live longer then non smokers

so that cigaret analogy is a bit far fetched and holds no true value



Alright fine, how about this:

That's like saying that alcohol doesn't make drunk drivers crash, they were just over-emotional that day which made them more likely to drink and in all likelihood, they would have crashed their cars anyways.

Pick a metaphor that sparks your fancy, w/e




posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 09:59 PM
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I call B.S - on the basis of the title alone

I have lost 30 pounds this year - and I did it with diet and exercise

Small meals no bread, pasta, carbs...

And small bouts of exercise all thru the day

40 push ups
hundred sit ups
some simple core exercises

takes about seven minutes

if you do it 4 times a day, you will get results, I started with 10+ times a day - it goes so quick, you are not overly tired

You do not need to have the mental investment a 30 + minute workout requires



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 10:14 PM
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i hope most of you are smart enough not to take the advice from OP.
he has posted some pretty far fetched opinions in other threads, but if you dont think excersize and a reduced caloric intake will help you lose weight you need a psychologist not a weight loss specialist.
there is no magic pill.
the "secret" to lsoing weight is to excersize self control at the table and put in work at the gym. if you think otherwise your never going to see results.



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
reply to post by Ong Bak
 


You can secretly suspect what you want. There are plently of members here that know what I do and have seen current pictures of me. So, go ahead and keep making off-topic comments in response to every post I make.

if you actaully doled out even a small fraction of reasonable advice i would have no qualms with the things you say.
you have insisted animal products are not harmful in any way, you have stated diet and excersize wont help peopel lose weight.
how should a reasonable person respond to terrible opinions like this?



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 10:47 PM
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@OP

Started visiting the gym after clocking up at 90kg (height 1,70m).

Right now Im down to 81kg and fealing really good. Also chnaged my diet to healthy food and the stomach problems have stoped


Now why isint this effectiv?



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 12:08 AM
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I totally agree with you. The doctors should be saying "watch what you eat. Eat a full and well rounded diet avoiding junk foods" instead of "eat less food, don't eat fats, eat less calories blah blah". And of course exercise is a given.



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 12:17 AM
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I have to agree with you 100% about this. When I was younger I could eat any thing and would never gain a pound. I was always in tip top shape and very atheletic. About the time I reached the age of 20 however, I started to become very sensitive to carbs and was beginning to gain weight even if I felt like I was starving myself to prevent this from happening.

I am 25 now and about 2 years ago I came across the Ketogenic Diet. I am sure some of you are aware of what this diet is about but for those of you who are not it is a very low carb/high fat/moderate protein diet. High Fat, I know right? Goes against every thing you have ever been told by doctors, family, friends, etc. However, this is the best way of eating I have ever discovered and it has literally melted fat off of me like no other way of eating ever has.

So, let me explain how it works. All of our lives, we have had this notion that our bodies and brains need carbs to function properly. Don't worry if any of you fall under this catagory it likely isn't your fault, we have been taught this our whole lives. The truth is, our bodies are very adaptable machines. What ever we feed it the most of, it will start using for fuel. This is why people who eat a lot of protein and very little fat/carbs will find that they may actually begin to lose muscle and this is because the body is likely to start using protein for fuel as opposed to carbs or fat. This is the concept behind the Ketogenic Diet. The goal is to eat a lot of fat and very little to no carbs with a moderate amount of protein. Doing so will cause the body to eventually switch it's fuel source to fat. When this happens you are considered in Keto mode and your insulin stays in check. The body now burns fat first as opposed to having to first work through all of those carbs you have on a high carb diet before getting to the stored fat. This means the stored fat in your body is targeted right away throughout the day. 1-2 days out of the week can be dedicated to re-feeding your body carbs, which is especially important to body builders aswell as helping to keep your metabolism in check. Best of all, this type of diet can be a lifestyle and not just some temporary diet you lose 10 pounds on and then go off of and put it all back on like most diets. In other words it's an easy diet to stay on. Carbs are also very addictive to most people meaning they actually make you want more very soon after eating them. This is partly due to the fact that one gram of carbs has roughly 4 calories where as 1 gram of fat has 9 calories! This means fat is more filling and that is exactley what the Ketogenic diet is good at, making you feel full for longer. It also has many other benefits such as lowering blood pressure, keeping skin healthy and is great for diabetics or those who have epilepsy or other siezure problems.

I urge those of you who haven't heard of this diet or who are skeptical to do some research and see how successful this way of eating really is to mankind.



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posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 12:25 AM
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you seen that show "the biggest loser"?
the obese people lose weight by diet and exercise
and i dont think there was one person that didnt lose weight by diet and exercise.



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by christinaV
you seen that show "the biggest loser"?
the obese people lose weight by diet and exercise
and i dont think there was one person that didnt lose weight by diet and exercise.


Heresy....absolute heresy. How can you say such things?




posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by calstorm
reply to post by Sly1one
 


That is what I do. I have learned to trust my body to tell me what to eat.


I agree with this one that is how I do it....



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 01:22 AM
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A few home truths people...

(1) Walking is not exercise. It is tickling your body, not stimulating it.

(2) Never compare your body to someone else's. That is as retarded as comparing fingerprints. Also never compare how your body worked at 20 to how it works at 40. You do WHATEVER it takes to keep the weight off for you personally at whatever stage of life you are at right now.

(3) If you are over 33% body fat. You are obese. Not just fat. Once it starts effecting your health, you are morbidly obese. When you die it will not be pleasant.

(4) Your mortician will win this argument.



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by thedeadtruth
A few home truths people...

(1) Walking is not exercise. It is tickling your body, not stimulating it.


While i agree that intensive exercise is often good for you (and tbh this is how i always preferred it), a good walk is shown to reduce the rate of all sorts of illnesses. And remember that many people don't have time, or more often the determination to perform intense exercise but a walk in the woods they may be up to.


Originally posted by thedeadtruth
(2) Never compare your body to someone else's. That is as retarded as comparing fingerprints. Also never compare how your body worked at 20 to how it works at 40. You do WHATEVER it takes to keep the weight off for you personally at whatever stage of life you are at right now.

(3) If you are over 33% body fat. You are obese. Not just fat. Once it starts effecting your health, you are morbidly obese. When you die it will not be pleasant.


Agreed.


Originally posted by thedeadtruth
(4) Your mortician will win this argument.


Now theres something we can all agree on huh, excellent point i think.



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 02:31 AM
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posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by truthseeker1984
 


You want to lose weight? Try this:

Divide your meals into smaller portions and eat more often so instead of having 3 main meals a day, try and aim for 5 smaller meals.

Eat healthy, good food such as Chicken, Tuna, Pasta, Rice, Cheese, Fruit, Veg, Milk, Brown bread, Nuts, Yoghurt.

Engage in some form of intense cardio at least 3 times a day, try interval training or if you can't do that maybe go for games of football/basketball/badminton.

On the days you don't perform the cardio start weight training, split up the major muscle groups of the body.

Example workout plan:

Monday: 30 mins cardio
Tuesday: Chest/Back
Wednesday: 30 mins cardio
Thursday: Arms/Shoulders
Friday: 30 mins cardio
Saturday: Back/flexibility training i.e. stretching

Every day you do the weights workout do an abs routine at the end (look up on internet)

Example meal plan:

7:00AM - Two slices of brown toast, 3 scrambled eggs, glass of OJ

10:00AM - An apple and a handful of dry roasted peanuts

1:00PM - Chicken sandwich with lettuce, tomatoe and bacon. Glass of milk

3:00PM - Yoghurt, handful of nuts, granola bar

6:00PM - Cajun turkey breast with rice + veg

8:00PM - Glass of milk, other small snack such as a muffin

Drink plenty of water throughout the day, aim to at least get your 5 portions of veg and fruit.

Follow that routine as described and you WILL lose weight.

It reallly is that simple...

Other things can help such as take the stairs instead of the lift, do exercises at your desk (if your an office based worker), wear ankle/wrist weights, take a Boxing or martial arts class if it interests you.

Spices/herbs/sauces all help make food intersting and tasty, you just need to do a bit of research.

Hope that helps.

Clearly you know more than me.Good advice there to someone who is out of shape and over weight.Do intence cardio 3 times a day and develop tendonitis in a week.Oh and don't forget your 5 a day.


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posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 02:41 AM
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Are you still here?

Cardiovascular training has many health benefits including weight loss-

www.manageyourlifenow.com...

ezinearticles.com...

www.naturalnews.com...


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posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 02:45 AM
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posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 02:47 AM
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posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 02:48 AM
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No wonder people from manchester have such a bad rep



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 02:49 AM
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posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron
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Are you still here?

Cardiovascular training has many health benefits including weight loss-

www.manageyourlifenow.com...

ezinearticles.com...

www.naturalnews.com...

Now go away, your boring me.

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I never said it didn't but its not necessary for fat loss.Diet first every time.NEXT.





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