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posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by jfj123
 


it will never come from the right for the simple fact there is too much hatred and contempt for it int his country


You know mate I've seen some people on this site that are blinded by their ideology but wow, you didn't just drink the Neo-Con Kool-Aid you are mainlining the stuff!

So please pray tell, aside from not eliminating all of us evil progressives, what has the Right-Wing ever done wrong? I mean they seem to you to almost be a religion in their defense of all that is good and right against us evil, horribly wicked left-wingers, but are they perfect? I want to hear your thoughts on it, draw a little blood from the golden calf you've built yourself.




posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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noone on here will ever admit to be something that everyone in this country obviously hates.

noone will ever admit that are clear parallels to nazis.


social programs and the globalization of the leftist liberal democratic is self destructive the left is succeeding where hitler failed.

the left is clearly more accepted in this country and in the entire world and if you people are too blind to see the obvious dangers to so much power then you people deserved whats comming.

and im telling you people right now it will be a world of which you want to part it be a world of pure evil and poverty and hatred and anger to the levels of what has never been seen.


yes lines have been blurred and yes labels have been blurred but im telling you people something you actually do need to take pause and reflect and think long and hard about.

i am a right winger and if you have actually red any of my posts read them am i a nazi? am i fascist?

then read the others read what they say see how they have acted in this thread better yet go to any other threads on this website.

look at the threads about anyone right winger
look at the threads about israel
look at the threads about islam
look at the threads about christianity
look at the clear differences between the left -right paradigm

come back and tell me who is actually using nazi tactics
come back and tell me what side is fascist
come back and tell me what side are nazis.


me i am no one i just made one thread and i clearly have no power to change anyone minds at all i am no way delusional about that fact.

i just want at least one person to actually stop, reflect and question the status quote at least once in their lives.


that was the only intent of this thread and it clearly was not the "bashing" and "name calling" others have said.


theres a couple of old sayings where im from " me thinks the lady doth protest to much"

and "those who shout the loudest and the hardest are the ones they are usually trying to pass someone else off as".


im am sure there are people that have read this thread will think that of me but on the macro level of ats and this country you will obviously find that the one who scream the loudest and hardest have been and will always be the leftist the liberals and the democratic party.



edit on 23-9-2010 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 04:36 PM
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reply to post by ProjectJimmy
 


your mistaken man i do have my problems with the right but i have more problems with the left.

for the simple fact the left will not leave me the hell alone.

personal freedom
personal responsibility
self reliance
independence

those are the ideals i embrace and those are the ideals i live by and that is the world i want to live in

and those are the ideals that the left clearly think is evil


i want as much government the hell out of my life that is humanly possible i want my own destiny in my own two hands.

and if you or the left has a problem with that then too bad. its the real meaning of freedom.

and it is a fact there is not one damn thing the left has done for any american public but kept them enslaved to their political whims.





edit on 23-9-2010 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by jfj123
 


it will never come from the right for the simple fact there is too much hatred and contempt for it int his country


HUH ?
What about the patriot act?
What about extraordinary rendition?
What about torture?
What about the illegal war?
What about the attempted seizure of power by cheney?
What about....well you get the idea.



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by ProjectJimmy
 


your mistaken man i do have my problems with the right but i have more problems with the left.

for the simple fact the left will not leave me the hell alone.

personal freedom
personal responsibility
self reliance
independence

those are the ideals i embrace and those are the ideals i live by and that is the world i want to live in

and those are the ideals that the left clearly think is evil


i want as much government the hell out of my life that is humanly possible i want my own destiny in my own two hands.

and if you or the left has a problem with that then too bad. its the real meaning of freedom.

and it is a fact there is not one damn thing the left has done for any american public but kept them enslaved to their political whims.





edit on 23-9-2010 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



Well so we believe in the idea that we can do more and better for each other collectively than we can alone, and honestly that's the point of a republic, an overarching representation of and by the people.

What you want sounds more like a selfish kind of anarchism than anything else. From what I have seen of your posts it's really a matter of not wanting to have to answer to society or be a part of it.

You're sounding like a crank, a bitter angry man who just wants someone to hate, and you've chosen Liberals as your scapegoat. Get over it already.



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 05:06 PM
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this is what you come at me with are you serious? how many times do i have to say this.

what about the second ammendment ? what about the hcr bill? what about the consumer protection agency?

what about those friend? those 3 have more power than the patriot act and yet you can even bring them up now why is that ? oh i know its just the fact it was a republican who did it.

and make no mistake i dont let gwb off scott free and make no mistake should the patriot act even been passed no? but then agian how many liberal democratic congressman voted on it better yet how many people even read it.


what about the treatment of right by the left for decades what about the mental and verbal abuse they endure every single day in this country what about that?

and since you brought that up the only you people would never have a problem with rendition or torture of any right winger media personality in this country i can guarantee that almost every one of you people will sit and watch and cheer and eat poprcorn.


what about the nonstop seizure of power the left since wilson to present day what part of the left democratic party power grab are you not getting?


illegal war when the hell has war ever been legal what its legal only when democrats do it?

what about world war 1,world war 2,korea,vietnam,kosvo/bosnia,somailia what about those wars? did you think there were no americans around at the time when they happened.

and yet only one man ever is called out on "illegal wars" gwb and republicans.

it is a simple fact there has been more death more destruction and more blood on democratic hands but then agian goes back to the fact the only people that do anything right is the left and the democratic parties.



open your eyes man open them.


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posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 05:11 PM
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you are mistaken sir the reason that this country has even survived for hundreds of years was the fact that america was a country of individuals acting like a collective.

in my opinon you goals will never be achieved for the simple fact there will never bee free will to do what you want-you it will always be for the common good and by a small group of people who define what the common good is.


thats hilarious calling me bitter and angry. where where have i hated in here WHERE?


and sir what you need to get over is the fact there will be people in this country such as myself who will do everything in their powers to keep you from achieving your goals.


deal with it man.

and agian keeping using the same tactics they do i appreciate your input



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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The left has succeeded where Hitler failed? Are you joking? Please tell us that you're not serious.

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posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 06:09 PM
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what do you think globalization is? what do you think world of the world unite means

what do you think of obama appointee and the uns new agenda to enforce global gun control.


what do you think the goals of the poltical establishment are?


nefarious friend nefarious



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
 


I do discourage it. You shouldn't open you mouth if it's painfully obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. There are far too many people who do it.
Frankly though, I think we are just getting trolled be a teenager.


I'm not talking about content...that is debatable, and we always have the ignore button. I'm referring to those who might not be terribly articulate but are still entitled to be heard. But I hear ya...

Self edit to say...but there are always exceptions...lol


edit on 23-9-2010 by JohnnyCanuck because: reality check



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by ProjectJimmy
 


you are mistaken sir the reason that this country has even survived for hundreds of years was the fact that america was a country of individuals acting like a collective.

in my opinon you goals will never be achieved for the simple fact there will never bee free will to do what you want-you it will always be for the common good and by a small group of people who define what the common good is.


thats hilarious calling me bitter and angry. where where have i hated in here WHERE?


and sir what you need to get over is the fact there will be people in this country such as myself who will do everything in their powers to keep you from achieving your goals.


deal with it man.

and agian keeping using the same tactics they do i appreciate your input


If you won't even admit to your own hatred, then there's no point in even trying to argue with you. I'm done with this thread which is a blatant hit job. This doesn't belong in this forum, but in the ones devoted to mudslinging.

You're an unabashed partisan, and even with all of the people trying to convince you otherwise, you're being far to stubborn to understand what is coming out of your mouth. Everything you are accusing the left of doing in the media, you are doing here. This isn't about politics, it's about your own bitterness and need to complain, and that's not at all something I need to be involved in.



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 06:18 PM
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apparently im not the only one and no one made you read this thread and no one made you post.


and agian you are still tring to impose your beleifs on someone else because you dont agree with it.


and thats something clearly i have not done.


i honestly dont care what you think of me and i honestly dont care what you think of its contents.

but its clear as day some people dont practice what they preach the only people who have hated are people like you.





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posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
The left has succeeded where Hitler failed? Are you joking? Please tell us that you're not serious.

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Seriously, I still see Jews running around. Liberals also haven't slaughtered all the Slavic people.

I guess we aren't doing Hitler's work.



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 10:57 PM
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acutally if you want to get down to the bones of that comnnet the left is doing hitlers work for the simple fact

the left condemns isreal everytime they defend themselves and that is aiding the enemy to israel.

no liberals or democrat come to the aid and the defense of any jew in this country.



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by antonia
 

no liberals or democrat come to the aid and the defense of any jew in this country.


LOL


Now we can all be assured you don't know what you are talking about.

It should be clear to all that efforts to chip away at Israel's legitimacy will only be met by the unshakeable opposition of the United States," he told the United Nations. "And efforts to threaten or kill Israelis will do nothing to help the Palestinian people — the slaughter of innocent Israelis is not resistance, it is injustice."

Spoken by Obama.

www.msnbc.msn.com...

And considering Rahm is Jewish, I think you are just a bit off base.


edit on 23-9-2010 by antonia because: RAWR



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 12:06 AM
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really now go read the new thread that just came up about the isreali flotilla

and the numberous other threads


now who here doesnt know what they are talking about



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 01:46 AM
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reply to post by neo96
 


How many guesses do I get?
You?



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 01:55 AM
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why dont you trying responding to the intial post



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by TrueBrit
 


what party was the vehicle that led to fascism friend? what party?

the national socialists germans workers party under neath the guise of socialism and what party in american open embraces the socialist agenda? what party? the liberal democratic party.


then what about the lefts non stop attacking any isreal,jews,christians and any ideals contrary to their own.

did you missed the fact the left created the kkk? did that just pass right over your head?


acutally if you look at any democrat in this countrys history in american the left has walked on the path of hitler than any right winger ever has.



look at what wilson,rooselvet,truman,kennedy,johnson,clinton,obama have done look at everything they have done.


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Im going to answer those points in order.

Asking what party leads down the path of fascism is leaving your entire argument open to attack . I would say the most fascist thing the American government has done in the last decade or so would easily be oh , I dunno, going to war with a nation over the actions of a relatively small number of people who werent even IN the nation at the time. I refer of course to Iraq. Tens of thousands of non combatant casualties, billions of dollars of waste, human rights abuses and war crimes commited in the name of a war on terror , allegedly instigated by Osama Bin Ladens actions , who in anycase has been working for the CIA longer than you have had a pulse.
I believe it was BUSH who was the president when that crock of crap came up? Hes not a democrat or a liberal last time I looked, and he presided over the islamophobic hate that sprung up during his reign, and fueled it by making sweeping generalisations like telling muslims that feeding terrorists, and funding terrorists makes you a terrorist. That generalisation is a tactic of RIGHT WING POLITICS. Its designed to make it easier for a nation to hate a particular group of people, so that when a right wing government wishes to make life terrible for that group, there is too little public outcry against the government, to prevent it doing what ever it damned well pleases.

The National Socialist movement in Germany, however named, is widely understood by persons who have done thier research to have been a right wing party. You see it is the actions of a party which tell you what they believe and show you which side of the table they are on , and no matter how you name your party, or what you claim your motivations are, if you commit genocide, and are fascist, that makes you right wing. Its easy to tell because the extremist left are communist, something which Hitler and his jackbooted friends were just not into. I wouldnt have to explain this if you had done your research.

You complain about the left "attacking" Israel,Jews, Christians, and anyone whos opinion is contrary to thier own. That is the most hipocritical statement I have ever witnessed on this board, and for that good sir, you deserve all due congratulations.
The left does not attack ANYTHING. It does however point out the moral problems which it percieves with the behaviour and actions of groups which have a habit of encouraging xenophobia, mass murder, and those who support nations and or governments who promote those behaviours in thier citizenry. The problem leftists have is not with Jews at all , but with the political elite in Israel. One must learn to seperate the two clearly in ones mind, because they are not the same thing. The Israeli government, through thier military, has murdered civilians, and devastated infrastructure, killed international protestors, and has used white phosphorus incendiary devices in a residential district, which is a clear violation of the international treaties regarding its use in combat. This constitutes a war crime. The entire problem that leftists have with Israels behaviour in Palestine is that those actions are FASCIST. . If it is rascist, fascist or evil to point that out, then I dont know what a person is supposed to do when they see injustice done anymore. Apparantly being against fascism makes a person fascist? Thats some skewed logic you are working by sir. Again , congratulations are due.

I would love to see how you work out that the KKK were a creation of left wing politics. I hope its not the "It happened on the lefts watch, so its the lefts fault" argument. The KKK is a white power movement, sharing absolutely none of the leftist liberal ideals of equality of rights. Martin Luther King on the other hand, now that was a good leftist if I ever heard of one. He was so insistant that equality be gained through peace, that he was prepared to risk the violence of the extreme right wing, to bring his messege to the masses. Sure enough the right wing extremists did take him down. By his sacrifice lessons were learned , and tolerance and finaly equality came to pass. Those are leftist ideals. The ideals which motivated his murderer are the opposite.. firmly on the right.

On the subject of past American presidents and thier affiliations, you are simply talking nonsense, and worse you cant even spell Roosevelt, which throws some doubt over your ability to comment on his political attitude, or indeed any of the attitudes of the other presidents on that list. Frankly you are grasping at straws in desperation, because you are both unable to formulate a decent argument, and too weak to accept that your veiw is flawed, and that you lack the capacity to make your case. Dont get me wrong, I love a good political debate, but the least you could do is try knowing your subject matter .



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 05:59 AM
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Well said!


I don't know how anyone is going to come up for a rebuttal for that. Well constructed and easy to understand, I will star that one for sure.



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