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Obama: "Mexicans" Were Here "Long Before America Was Even An Idea"

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posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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Well as long as he is thinking in that vein the Native Americans were
here long before the European mass murders moved in.

Can address that from Hudson bay to the tip of South America.

All O' bummer is doing is trying to justify the coming NAU.

They want to build an EU right here and end Canada, the US,
and Mexico.

The Mexicans like the idea because their country is in terrible
shape due corruption that is actually worse than it is in the US.

I know that is hard to believe for most US citizens, but it is true.

They see the US as soft and politically correct, and they are right.

So that is why it has been a piece of cake for them to transform
southern California and put such a strain on the medical system there
that 50+ hospitals had to close due to it.

O' bummer and his band of pirates know what will come of this
and it was addressed by the founding fathers.

This nation will fall from within, but it has been getting external
influence to do so for a long time, Islamic and former Soviet.

CFR, Bilderberg, The Trilateral commission are all in on the plan
to bankrupt this nation and over run it with a free army from
around the world.

A Rockefeller openly and publicly stated China is the model society.

The open border and 73 different types of Visa have allowed a
flood of ppl who do not like us or our culture to come here
and lower the wages to the point where you cannot make it.

This has been intentional, they even DOUBLED the H1-B Visa cap
AFTER the DOT COM crash with a vote of 98 - 1 in the senate.

That is unanimous support to screw the US citizen.

Perkins has made it VERY clear this is all by design.



Their weapon of mass financial destruction is still to fully unspool.

$1,500 Trillion in derivatives poised to crash the world markets,
but mostly the markets of the US.

The mexicans and the ppl who fight them will be rounded up as
domestic terrorists.

Good odds the mexicans will just be returned to mexico to be
greeted as heroes while US citizens will rot in these:

www.govtrack.us...

So if you stand up, be prepared to be hammered down by O' bummer and crew.

Good Luck to all the good ppl !!!




edit on 22-9-2010 by Ex_MislTech because: spelling and grammar




posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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It was a really good show actually, went on for hours before and after "El Grito"

I wouldn't worry about it too much though, I am sure if you looked at them closely the rockets would say: "Made in USA (by Mexicans)"

Mexico isn't a poor country, it just suffers from a hangover and a belief system that makes the poorer people believe that they cannot do better. and somehow deserve to earn low wages. which is NOT helped by US interests. but I am in no way saying everyone is clean in this debate.

After 75 years with the PRI the PAN can;t change everything over night. Only Super Obama could do that!!.... cough cough! but they are making progress, and in the last 7 years I have been coming here the changes are very visible, more for the better than bad.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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Is he wrong? Were they or were they not here before America was even an idea?

We granted amnesty to millions of people just because they looked a certain way. At least 25% of us are here illegally because our grandparents stowed away on boats and didn't pay the admission fee. They rolled off those boats and blended in with everyone else.

So the question persist. Is Obama wrong in what he said? If not, then why is this thread allowed to exist?



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by centurion1211
 


and the native americans were here long before all of us but i dont hear him saying jacks squat about them.



Oh but he did say something regarding Native Americans right on a National TV broadcast.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

His plan for the pesky indians is totally out in the open.

Being a Native American I find it VERY peculiar for a black man to act like a European settler,
but I also feel he is just a puppet on a hidden hand.




edit on 22-9-2010 by Ex_MislTech because: grammar



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:14 PM
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Indeed I am British, but I live in Mexico. (by choice), This is how I know about the immigration system here.

Lets just say, our opinion is that were took a breather until we decided to remind you we were still around when we burnt down the white house in 1812.And then decided that fighting wasn't worth while when we had good enough contracts in place that has kept you paying to the crown coffers ever since!


Really though a lot of people need to open their eyes. Mexico really isn't what the media portray it as and people believe it to be. Well maybe Senora, but that's just desert!

And I just find the whole being nasty for the sake of it, just to fit it, very disheartening.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Aggie Man
Also, do you REALLY believe that Obama thinks there are 57 states? Or are you just trying to bait? Seriously, as a seantor, I doubt Obama ever had the floor and then said "I will yield the remainder of my time to the distinguished gentleman from Imaginationland"....but, hey, it's funny and it baits, so let's keep saying until we believe it to be true


To make it clear up front, I really don't care much for Obama, or for Bush or for any of the others who are steering the train wreck of the country further into what is surely the Great Depression of the new millenium.

In my opinion, this thread topic clearly shows that he is pandering to the exploding Hispanic and minority population in desperation over the upcoming elections... all his moves recently are clear moves in appealing to audiences to appease. Just over the weekend the MSM reported he went to "church". Since when do Presidents going to church make the news? Only in the case of Obama, clearly to dispel the "Islam" rumors... and I really could care less what religion he is, to be honest. One more (non) topic for the American people to get wrapped up in needlessly so we don't pay attention to serious matters.

At any rate, see the links below, as yes, the man did claim to visit ALL 57 states. And as a Presidential hopeful at the time, for crying out loud, really?? Please have enough presence of mind to keep your geography straight. My goodness. I don't care if he was tired. That is part of the deal. Be on your game if you are giving an interview, pal.
Yes, Bush would be (and has been) trounced for such.

www.youtube.com...

And also, the man clearly can't perform on the fly, without a teleprompter. Breathalyzers instead of inhalers... and he says inhala"tors". I mean I wouldn't want to be around him live, listening to him fumble. It would be embarrassing to listen to.
And this is one of so many clips of him stuttering through a performance without a teleprompter. He is all show and no substance. Clearly a product of the Democrat Party for an agenda.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:24 PM
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Well, the land is our's now =\

too bad Mexico doesn't have the military to take it back.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by JakiusFogg
and maybe the British should, as the point we got rid of a bunch of people who thought it was a good idea to had belt buckles on their hats!!!


Hey now...those belt buckles served a purpose...they allowed us to let it out a notch when our heads swelled!



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by JakiusFogg
reply to post by romanmel
 


Indeed I am British, but I live in Mexico. (by choice), This is how I know about the immigration system here.

Lets just say, our opinion is that were took a breather until we decided to remind you we were still around when we burnt down the white house in 1812.And then decided that fighting wasn't worth while when we had good enough contracts in place that has kept you paying to the crown coffers ever since!



You are right about that. We indeed have been paying our resources to those moronic inbreds on the throne in England. Lord Rothschild tapped Rock-er-fella as his goon and made him in charge of the transfer of our riches..

I actually believe Mexico is a fine place for Mexicans and Limes, for that matter. But they are killing US citizens on our side of the border, and Obama seems to not care. Obama can say what he will...He's done as a man of any influence in this country.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:31 PM
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Actually, it does. However they just don't go around advertising it, but invading and occupying sovereign states like some other countries I could mention.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by Aggie Man

Originally posted by centurion1211
Sorry, the left (including you?) crucified Bush any time he slipped up, so obama gets no pass for "semantics", or any other mistake.

This "mistake" has pandering for hispanic votes written all over it.


Fine by me....crucify Obama then, it's never stopped you before. I'm merely pointing out that the Mexican people thought of themselves as uniquely Mexican before they became an official nation, just as Americans did.

Also, do you REALLY believe that Obama thinks there are 57 states? Or are you just trying to bait? Seriously, as a seantor, I doubt Obama ever had the floor and then said "I will yield the remainder of my time to the distinguished gentleman from Imaginationland"....but, hey, it's funny and it baits, so let's keep saying until we believe it to be true


However...American was in use long before American independence, to describe someone living in the British American colonies.

Mexico was just a name derived from the original name of Mexico City and deciding upon this for a country, came about after Mexican Independence. People were not described as Mexicans prior to that time, however the term American was used.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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They? they who? Mexicans in general. Or criminal who happen to be Mexicans. As I am quite sure there hve been cases of American Officials Killing Mexican nationals on Mexican Soil, as well as on American, As well as American Criminals doing the same, And Guatelamans , Salvdorans etc etc. even Canadians. So don't fall for the hype. and don;t generalise. Criminals are criminals wherever they are from,

BTW you should coem down into real mexico. (not the border area) it;s really really nice. Jalisco, Colima, Michoacan, Morelos, Guerrero, Forget Mexico City! too big.

Great people, food, music, and sun. Not to mention really good Tequila. plus the beutiful women!! hehe And lots of green fields, hills mountains, lakes deserts, forests. everything you could think of. And Nothing you would expect.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:43 PM
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I can only speak for me so i will. It is about illegal immigrants because i spent a sh*t load of time and money was well as missing work playing the "let the FBI probe my ass" game just to have my wife stay here in the US.

Back and forth with DHS all that hell and Obama wants to just say oh my Mexican votes...um....i mean um.. friends come stay here free no DHS no FBI probing you and no fees that cost $1,000's just come and join in.

Like hell, if you want to come to the USA then please do but do it right or get the Fu*k Out!

And no you are not a patriot because a patriot would never say "screw the Constitution" i say screw socialism screw the Presidents (Bush and Obama) that take away our freedom with things like the patriot act and this Obama care and anything he wants to FORCE us to have.

But again i only speak for me.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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though I live in the US, I've grown up believing my heritage to be "irish," because my mom and dads families moved from Ireland over 150 years ago. However, the Ireland my family moved from is a very different place than the land mass that is currently Ireland. It goes without saying that people in Ireland, if not the entire world, are much different from who they were in 1850 too. So to say I'm Irish is to conflate myself with a place and people who no longer exist, except in my imagination. The intellectual plague that is nationalism provides the basis for me to bridge the gap between my imagination and reality, thus my arbitrary identification with today's Ireland. That is why when i meet and Irishman, and tell him "oh, I'm irish too" he says "no, you are an American." Funny how these concepts can seem so rock-solid and only a moment later flimsy and facile.

Same goes for this foolish discourse. The Mexicans who lived 200 years ago have nothing in common who those who live today.

and no, genetic similarity doesn't count. On a genetic level, there is very little that differentiates us from flies, let alone eachother.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by JakiusFogg
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...BTW you should coem down into real mexico. (not the border area) it;s really really nice. Jalisco, Colima, Michoacan, Morelos, Guerrero, Forget Mexico City! too big.

Great people, food, music, and sun. Not to mention really good Tequila. plus the beutiful women!! hehe And lots of green fields, hills mountains, lakes deserts, forests. everything you could think of. And Nothing you would expect.


Why not the border area...oh yeah, that's where they segragate the poor Mexicans and druggies to.

All you mention as favorable for Mexico is far exceeded here in the good 'ol USA, my friend. Why do you think the Mexicans want to come here if it is so great down there, as you say. Your logic excapes me.
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posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:55 PM
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You know, you border on being reasonable then ruin it, by being silly. i can;t help wondering if it is just implied, or deliberate. Different countries are different countries. There are things in Mexico that will far out shine anything you have in USA, and vice versa, and also bad things worse in both. the trick is to recognise it for what it is.

You will also find that those that come to the USA, the majority come with the aim of making some money to return to mexico and build a better life. Not to live indefinitely.

Look after 75 years after the revolution and being raped and robbed by corrupt government, the current gov in power for only 10 years has done a great job, in building the place back up. to the point where it is now bordering on being a lower tier developed nation.

But it does still suffer from corruption and problem, Just as the US does.

BUt please just look at things objectively. or really that spark of rational that I see, will be smothered.. .



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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Funny how Obama forgets about how the Spaniards destroyed and annihilated the Aztecs, the Incas, the Mayans. Oh sure its all the Amercian's fault.


Its about time Obama takes some actual history lessons about the world and the USA. This is pretty much grade school stuff he's making mistakes on.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 05:00 PM
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Barack Obama's speech writers are apparently as thoughtless as he is, and he is extremely thoughtless to make remarks like these at this time in history. He deserves to be ejected from the office that he had sought to have and for which he is not suited. Let us hope that an election will get him out of the office!



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 05:05 PM
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I read a lot of "Obama wasn't" this or that in this thread. You really can't expect one man, even the President, to effect change in two years against problems that have sweltered during the last 8 years, especially when the opposition has been stonewalling his efforts with the ridiculous, yet highly successful, "I hope you fail" attitude. Instead of "I hope you fail" how about "America needs to succeed; how can we make it better?"

As far as many posters on this topic are concerned, Obama is:

1. The Anti-Christ
2. A clone
3. Manchurian candidate
4. CIA operative/implant
5. Racist
6. Muslim
7. Not an American citizen
8. The person responsible for the entire budget deficit
9. Going to send death squads to take away the elderly
10. Going to take your firearms away
11. Doesn't really exist in our time-space contiuum, as he is a photonic projection from an alternate universe

It's purely ridiculous. I consider myself a person who goes for the best person for office, the best ideas. Regardless of political affiliation (i.e. I'm not a democrat, republican, satanic Tea Party member, or whatever). The Tea Party comment is a joke. But seriously, the Obama-bashers are just plain negative and ridiculous.

Bush made many mistakes, but you didn't have people showing up at public rallies toting firearms and screaming hateful things about the guy. People didn't wrongfully make a joker-face about him. Obama has been getting unfair treatment by hate-mongers. I say we all pull together and see what we can do to make America stronger, better and work together. It's so easy to bash and criticize as a pathetic armchair quarterback. It's hard to work together, cooperate and find solutions *together.* It's easy to drink Glenn Beck's racist kool-aid, Sarah Palin's broth of ignorance. It's hard to really think things through and try to better America. Many candidates are running simply on "Obama is the Antichrist" campaigns (I'm exaggerating, but they're just bashing the guy and offering few solutions themselves). We need more positivity.

That being said, Obama is not perfect. He's made some mistakes. All Presidents have, I would imagine. Everyone is human. No one is perfect. Let's make connections, not burn bridges.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 05:06 PM
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"We all shared the same land"????

WTF???

I guess Obama hasn't read any history lately. Not too much was "shared". The Spanish came to the New World and pretty much raped it like a drunken cheerleader on prom night. The French and English weren't much better.



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