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Originally posted by SirTFiedSkeptic
Originally posted by SirTFiedSkeptic
Originally posted by SirTFiedSkeptic
Originally posted by centurion1211
Is Obama trying to justify amnesty by saying things like this?
BTW, what he said is factually incorrect. What is now called Mexico was called New Spain before the Mexicans gained independence almost 50 years after the U.S. did.
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Obama said:
"Long before America was even an idea, this land of plenty was home to many peoples. The British and French, the Dutch and Spanish, to Mexicans, to countless Indian tribes. We all shared the same land," President Obama told the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.
Mexico declared its independence on September 16, 1810. It was recognized on September 27, 1821.
The United States of America declared its independence in 1776.
Of course, obama also thinks there are 57 states in the U.S.
edit on 9/21/2010 by centurion1211 because: (no reason given)
Technically, since Mexico City has been in existence, with the same name, since long before America was dreamed of, and since many Spaniards born in the New World called the area Mexico and themselves Mexicans, the O man is technically correct. That's the best kind, according to beurocrats. I live in New Mexico, which was once New Spain, and have studied the history, muchas gracias.
Don Juan de Oñate Salazar (1552–1626) was the first governor of the province of New Mexico, a part of New Spain. Even back in 1600, it was called 'New Mexico', which implies there is an 'Old Mexico'. And there is. It is the area south of New Mexico, which was called 'Mexico' by the Spanish. This is a ridiculous thread. The point is Hispanics have been here for a very long time.
Originally posted by Aggie Man
Originally posted by centurion1211
Sorry, the left (including you?) crucified Bush any time he slipped up, so obama gets no pass for "semantics", or any other mistake.
This "mistake" has pandering for hispanic votes written all over it.
Fine by me....crucify Obama then, it's never stopped you before. I'm merely pointing out that the Mexican people thought of themselves as uniquely Mexican before they became an official nation, just as Americans did.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Sorry, the left (including you?) crucified Bush any time he slipped up, so obama gets no pass for "semantics", or any other mistake.
Originally posted by maybereal11
Should we not refer to indigenous people of the Untied States pre-columbus as "Native Americans"...or would it be innacurate to call them that because the new world wasn't called "America" before Columbus?
Originally posted by centurion1211
BTW, what he said is factually incorrect. What is now called Mexico was called New Spain before the Mexicans gained independence almost 50 years after the U.S. did.
Originally posted by NoArmsJames
Originally posted by centurion1211
Sorry, the left (including you?) crucified Bush any time he slipped up, so obama gets no pass for "semantics", or any other mistake.
Yep, some did. And you know what? It was ridiculous and childish when they did it.
You had a chance to be better than that, but took the childish route. Way to go!