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Obama: "Mexicans" Were Here "Long Before America Was Even An Idea"

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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211
reply to post by maybereal11
 




Your guy gets caught either pandering for hispanic votes by spouting inaccurate information and/or he's showing his ignorance and it's "nit-picking".

Here's a similar recent thread showing obama (the constitutional scholar) also screwing up on the Declaration of Independence in a recent speech.

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Another good thread showing the "nit-picking" that the OUT OF POWER party likes to do to whoever is in power. The funny thing though, is it was easy to with Bush, they only had to question his idiocy, not to mention some of the stuff that came out of that man's mouth was HILARIOUS. But the Conservative Right can't even come up with a GOOD attack on the man. They have to this thread of "Oh well, he said the wrong word here, he paraphrased here......OH ....did I mention he's a rascist?"

Seriously do you guys have any relation to the upcoming "NEWT for 2012" Campaign? Next think I know you'll be saying "To even comprehend the man...you'd have to understand Kenyan, Anti-colonial politics."

Is that all you guys do? You get your little "righty chain mail" and are like "Oh...jeez man...Obama got one word wrong.....I think I'll make an entire thread about it and bash him all over again today."

It's really sad and the real logic minded, true independents in this country just LAUGH at the Right because of their lunacy. Like the fact that 60+% of Americans favor letting the the tax rates go up on the RICHEST 2%, yet their the Republicans are, trying to defend the lunacy with half-truths and lies like "Oh well it will affect small businesses".....You guys make me LOL with your half-logic.


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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Common Good
Im gunna keep this short.

I am really sick of listening to this moron talk.

He needs to just STFU and run the damn country.

Im glad he has all this time to play these stupid games, cause you know he doesnt have anything else important to do besides running his big fat mouth.

If he tries to give anyone amnesty, hell will break loose. Mark my words.

Obama. STFU and DO YOUR JOB.


Hmmm; the dream act is about to pass though congress. Meaning anyone who is between the ages of 0-30 and came here illegally before the age of 18 will get a chance for citizenship by going to college and completing and/or serving a term in the military.

So amnesty is on it's way. Glad to see it too. These are good people, it is hard to get into this country legally after 9/11 and these people just want a chance at a better life. I actually thought of the military thing a while ago and am happy to see that others have thought of it as well.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by centurion1211
 


and the native americans were here long before all of us but i dont hear him saying jacks squat about them.


As was pointed out earlier, you may want to read before you start your attack.


i guess its the simple fact the hispanic vote is the largest minority in the country right now.

and thats clearly what hes going after.


Everyone is.
Republicans and Democrats want that vote.

I mean...it's Politics 101, not some awful act of insidious behavior.
Time to grow up and look at politicians as politicians.


statements like this lead me to believe that maybe obama is a racists the only voters that dont matter to him are the white, republican or teaparty votes.


Playing the white-race card?
Weak.

- Lee



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211
reply to post by marg6043
 


The DREAM act was defeated today in the Senate.

Amazingly, Harry Reid (D-NV) was one of three democrats that voted against it - after he sponsored it. Some say he did that so that under Senate rules he could revive it later. That is if Reid is still a Senator later ...



Lol I hope you're not counting on Sharon Angle to win? And -even- if she does? I think you'll realize that Harry Reid would have been much better then this woman.....



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:51 PM
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you sir are misinformed its not surprising you think this way after you are the product of the left wing educational and media machine.

the only problem that any right winger or teapartier has is illegal hispanics thats it nothing else no matter what you have been led to believe.

this is a nation of rules it is a nation of laws and it is about justice.

the majority of americans who live here live by the rule of law they obey the rule of law and they most certainly follow the rule of law.

when people break they law the should be punished and the majority of americans are punished but illegals and yes they are hispanic ARE BREAKING THE LAW.

noone one person is above the law and no group of people is either. if our laws are not going to be followed whats the point of even having them.


anyone congressman and constitutional teacher should know.



as to the republican and teaparties they are americans what has obama done for either one of them-nothing.

and anytime you leave out any group of americans to consoldate power that is a bit racist.

i wouldnt talk about registered voters for the simple fact only 38% percent of americans even vote.



the ignorance friend is believing everything the vast left wing educational,media and hollywood has told you.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:03 PM
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Oh my heart really bleeds for outsiders who broke our laws by comming into this country illegally.

NOT.



Im so sick and tired of the dumb****s running our country right now.

Obama is a traitor to the country, and an enemy of the state.

He needs to get thrown out of office, period.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Ignorance_Defier
 




as to the republican and teaparties they are americans what has obama done for either one of them-nothing.



the ignorance friend is believing everything the vast left wing educational,media and hollywood has told you.


Well I'm sure THEY won't admit Obama has done anything for them.....But he's brought in many things that will help their lives, regardless of if they support him or not. For example "No more preventing kids from getting health insurance because of pre-existing conditions" , "Changes to how credit-card companies can't just hike up your rates without mention...." things like that.

Oh and as for the "ignorance" you speak of, don't you think it's a bit hypocritical to claim that he believes everything the "Left Wing" has told him? Sounds like you believe everything that the "Right Wing" tells you??

I love how the "Right Wing" can't even form valid arguments to things the Left Wing brings up. They have to result to name-calling, fear mongering, and half-truths in order to confuse people into voting for them. Reminds me of the "Red Scare" where everyone was calling EVERYTHING communist. What's next the Right Wing will tell you "Don't Breathe....It's a LEFT WING Ideology...So don't take any more breaths"....And you all will just fall for it hook, line, and sinker....Oh wait...that would take care of our problems......proceed....



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ignorance_Defier

Originally posted by Common Good
Im gunna keep this short.

I am really sick of listening to this moron talk.

He needs to just STFU and run the damn country.

Im glad he has all this time to play these stupid games, cause you know he doesnt have anything else important to do besides running his big fat mouth.

If he tries to give anyone amnesty, hell will break loose. Mark my words.

Obama. STFU and DO YOUR JOB.


Hmmm; the dream act is about to pass though congress. Meaning anyone who is between the ages of 0-30 and came here illegally before the age of 18 will get a chance for citizenship by going to college and completing and/or serving a term in the military.

So amnesty is on it's way. Glad to see it too. These are good people, it is hard to get into this country legally after 9/11 and these people just want a chance at a better life. I actually thought of the military thing a while ago and am happy to see that others have thought of it as well.


it must be really nice to live way up in the Ozone kid... these are not all good people, in fact lot's and lot's of bad people will also be magically transformed into citizens. let us not forget we don't have enough jobs to go around anyway... there is no better life to be had here.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by Ignorance_Defier
 


Oh my heart really bleeds for outsiders who broke our laws by comming into this country illegally.

NOT.



Im so sick and tired of the dumb****s running our country right now.

Obama is a traitor to the country, and an enemy of the state.

He needs to get thrown out of office, period.


So tell me? Where you on here during the Bush Era complaining about the "dumb****s" as you call them that were destroying your country then? Surely you don't think Bush HELPED our Economy? Or have you forgotten it was his policies and actions that DIRECTLY led to this deficit?

What about your "Liberty and Freedom" surely you were on here firing up a storm when Bush announced the Patriot Act....

Hypocrisy.....
SUCKS



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by Ignorance_Defier

Originally posted by Common Good
Im gunna keep this short.

I am really sick of listening to this moron talk.

He needs to just STFU and run the damn country.

Im glad he has all this time to play these stupid games, cause you know he doesnt have anything else important to do besides running his big fat mouth.

If he tries to give anyone amnesty, hell will break loose. Mark my words.

Obama. STFU and DO YOUR JOB.


Hmmm; the dream act is about to pass though congress. Meaning anyone who is between the ages of 0-30 and came here illegally before the age of 18 will get a chance for citizenship by going to college and completing and/or serving a term in the military.


Wrong.

You should have read the entire thread.

I just mentioned that the DREAM Act failed in the Senate today, with even Harry Reid voting against his own bill.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:09 PM
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Obama is a Socialist, they are destroying the middle class to put everyone on the idea that the only one to help is big government, when ppl wake up and realize this the world will be better place..Legalize illegals=more ppl that need "government assistance"=more ppl to vote marxist/socialist..."Its a giant # sandwich and well all gotta take a bite!"



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by ElijahWan

Originally posted by centurion1211
reply to post by marg6043
 


The DREAM act was defeated today in the Senate.

Amazingly, Harry Reid (D-NV) was one of three democrats that voted against it - after he sponsored it. Some say he did that so that under Senate rules he could revive it later. That is if Reid is still a Senator later ...



Lol I hope you're not counting on Sharon Angle to win? And -even- if she does? I think you'll realize that Harry Reid would have been much better then this woman.....


This thread is not about Sharon Angle.

Reid, however plays a big part in this amnesty issue, so he is fair game.

Glad to see you referring to Reid in the past tense. On the other hand, I specifically said IF Reid is still a Senator in my comments.




posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by ElijahWan

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Ignorance_Defier
 




as to the republican and teaparties they are americans what has obama done for either one of them-nothing.



the ignorance friend is believing everything the vast left wing educational,media and hollywood has told you.


Well I'm sure THEY won't admit Obama has done anything for them.....But he's brought in many things that will help their lives, regardless of if they support him or not. For example "No more preventing kids from getting health insurance because of pre-existing conditions" , "Changes to how credit-card companies can't just hike up your rates without mention...." things like that.

Oh and as for the "ignorance" you speak of, don't you think it's a bit hypocritical to claim that he believes everything the "Left Wing" has told him? Sounds like you believe everything that the "Right Wing" tells you??

I love how the "Right Wing" can't even form valid arguments to things the Left Wing brings up. They have to result to name-calling, fear mongering, and half-truths in order to confuse people into voting for them. Reminds me of the "Red Scare" where everyone was calling EVERYTHING communist. What's next the Right Wing will tell you "Don't Breathe....It's a LEFT WING Ideology...So don't take any more breaths"....And you all will just fall for it hook, line, and sinker....Oh wait...that would take care of our problems......proceed....



You dont even realize its for a certain group of people "elites" to gain control of money/power over the insurance companies. Premiums are going to be raised/ unafordable=more people on government run healthcare=spreading the wealth=socialism...Look into the New World order, this manuever, Health Care Reform has been planned for years and years....Its only a small step in the puzzle...Do you not realize they pump all the good things that come from it, there is more in the bills than that and if you read them you would know this...Its not longer a Red Alert scare the ppl that realize what is going on realize that it is not a Dem/Rep issue...Its more than that, unfortunatly for both you and I, it will be too late when ppl realize this and as result we will all be stuck in 3rd world country poverty...Socialism is great until you run outta money...Wake Up!



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by ElijahWan

Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by Ignorance_Defier
 


Oh my heart really bleeds for outsiders who broke our laws by comming into this country illegally.

NOT.



Im so sick and tired of the dumb****s running our country right now.

Obama is a traitor to the country, and an enemy of the state.

He needs to get thrown out of office, period.


So tell me? Where you on here during the Bush Era complaining about the "dumb****s" as you call them that were destroying your country then? Surely you don't think Bush HELPED our Economy? Or have you forgotten it was his policies and actions that DIRECTLY led to this deficit?

What about your "Liberty and Freedom" surely you were on here firing up a storm when Bush announced the Patriot Act....

Hypocrisy.....
SUCKS


Where was I ? I was calling out them too. Bushwas bad,r eal bad, but nowhere near asbad as this guy.
Sorry to disappoint you but, if you look at my registration date,you will notice I wasnt a member of this site until late 2008.

SURELY- You dont think.

Why is it that ALL of you Obama bots think that anyone who criticizes this POS in the oval office is ALWAYS a Bush fan? Are you all REALLY that ignorant?

Hyporisy does suck, you should check yourself and your facts before you come out and personally attack me
next time.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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yeah hes brought an unconstitutional healthcare system that you now have to pay for that same healthcare system that you people will remian on til age 26 AGE 26 !!!! that is utterly ridiculous.

since we are speaking of the hcr how the hell do you know that is even in it NO ONE has even read the 2000 page intrusion of american lives. the cost in $$ and so on and so forth that the taxpayer will have to pay for and no ones know the damage that it will cause- NO ONE.


there are many many many forms on information i do my own independent fact checking and i believe nothing NOTHING anyone tells me at face value.

as soon as anyone starts vilifyng,bashing,berrating, and assinating peoples characters i take pause and i ask what are they so afraid of why are they so quick to condemn and so on and so forth.


the red scare was a valid concern and its on display every single day in american politics whether it be socialism,communism and those ideals and thoughts try to take away power from the individual people in this country IT IS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO THIS COUNTRY.

if you know anything about this country history, its founding and the beliefs that made this country what it is and the thoughts that are running around in todays americans need to be watched they need to be checked and they need to be challenged.

exactly what americans use to do they use to think for themselves and thats something ameircans today clearly are not doing.


but then agian all this is off topic sorry centurion and sorry mods.





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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 09:13 PM
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...all politicians pander for votes - so pandering for the hispanic vote is no big deal unless you're one of those paranoid "oh my god, they're gonna take over" nitwits...

...besides, the crap politicians will say has absolutely no bearing on what they will actually do...



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by neo96





if you know anything about this country history, its founding and the beliefs that made this country what it is and the thoughts that are running around in todays americans need to be watched they need to be checked and they need to be challenged.



This is the main thing that typifies the Right wing mentality. "if you don't think like I do, you need to be watched and punished for your thought crimes until you get your mind right"

See the hypocrisy here? The right wants freedom but only for themselves. Anyone different needs to be checked and challenged.

Remember where this style of thinking came from?

en.wikipedia.org...

I think if our founding fathers ever thought there would be groups of people against "thinking" they would wonder what in the hell happened to this country.

I'm far less frightened by socialism than I am Fascism.

God help us!













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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa

This is the main thing that typifies the Right wing mentality. "if you don't think like I do, you need to be watched and punished for your thought crimes until you get your mind right"


This viewpoint is wrong, as well.

Political Correctness - which is the signature philosophy of the left - is where you'll find the true "thought police". It is the elitist left that constantly says that anyone disagreeing with them is stupid and worse. If what you say is true, you and many others here would have been in "FEMA camps" more than two years ago. But look, you're still here posting - incorrectly, but still posting nonetheless.


See the hypocrisy here? The right wants freedom but only for themselves. Anyone different needs to be checked and challenged.


You couldn't have it more backwards. The right is all about maximizing individual freedoms and responsibility. You can't be more free than that. The left wants government control over all behaviour. The left wants a law or a rule about any real or potential behavior. Example: you must buy health insurance or we send the IRS after you.

Look at your own words for their ridiculousness. How can the right only have freedoms for themselves and not everyone? Will you have to carry ID that says you're a leftist, no rights for you?




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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 09:31 PM
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Is that really right wing mentality? "If You don't think like I do, you need to be watched and punished until you get your mind right."

Seems the last I heard and read...the DHD considers me a "terrorist" because I believe in God, read the Constitution, and support the 2nd Ammendment. Obama looks down on people like me that believe in God and guns.... he even said as much.

Seems like such thinkinbg cuts both ways....



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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statements like this lead me to believe that maybe obama is a racists the only voters that dont matter to him are the white, republican or teaparty votes.


That makes him a racist? I'd say it makes him sane, and representative of ALL of America, not just Fox's audience.

But regardless, Obama's administration has reached out to the GOP numerous times, including drafing a health care bill largely based on REPUBLICAN ideas.

So your argument is baseless and founded on misinformation.

Be well.



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