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Topic started on 23-6-2004 @ 03:55 PM by AboveTopSecret.com
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UTAH'S GREEN RIVER COMPLEX CALLED "NEW AREA 51"
ACTUAL PROSPECTS OF THIS BEING SO SEEM SLIM
THIS REPORT WAS REPRODUCED FROM THE CLUI.ORG
WEBSITE
A remote Army facility in eastern Utah was called "the New Area
51" in Popular Mechanics Magazine's June cover story. According
to the magazine, the Green River Complex, along with Michael Air
Field at Dugway Proving Ground, may become an aviation test complex,
replacing the overpublicised Groom Lake base known as "Dreamland"
and "Area 51." Though based on limited evidence, the claim has increased
interest in the Green River Complex, sufficient to warrant a characterization
of the facility in these pages.
Officially called the Utah Launch Complex, the 3,650 acre site
in the bare hills north of Moab, was established in 1961 as a launch
point for test missiles bound for the Army's 4,000 square-mile White
Sands Missile Range, in New Mexico. The site has been in "caretaker
status" since the last launch in 1974, and has fallen into disrepair.
It seems to be an unlikely candidate for a new classified defense
project site, as was discovered by field researcher Doug Denk, reporting
to the Area 51 Research Center:
It didn't take a whole lot of searching to find the place, which
is located next to Interstate 70, about six miles east of the town
of Green River, Utah. To get there, simply get off I-70 at exit
162, and head south (away from town). You will immediately come
to a "T" intersection. Turn left and you're on the main drag of
the Green River Launch Complex.
THE BIG BUNKER AT THE GREEN RIVER COMPLEX -
PHOTO BY DOUG DENK
The facility itself, officially referred to on signs here as the
Utah Launch Complex, sits in a shallow valley roughly four miles
long east-west and one mile wide north-south. It consists of a total
of ten significant buildings and structures scattered throughout
the valley, with a few other old foundations and poles here and
there. Overall, the complex is in a terrible state of disrepair.
Signs are unreadable, windows are boarded up, and most buildings
are visibly damaged in some way. The power lines to all the buildings
I inspected had been smashed to bits.
Starting on the west side of the complex, at the "T" intersection
mentioned above, and heading east up the main drag, the complex
is laid out like this: After about 0.5 miles, there are three large,
grey metal buildings on the right. These are completely fenced off,
and are labeled as the Magazine Area. These buildings sit only about
200 yards south of I-70, and are plainly visible from the freeway.
At 2.2 miles is the intersection of Crystal Geyser Road with the
Meteorological Building (as indicated by a sign out front) just
to the south. The building is completely empty and in sad shape.
Continuing on the dirt road to the south leads through some low
hills and then south west to the geyser and the east bank of the
Green River. North on Crystal Geyser Road heads past a communications
tower, on a hill to the east, then under the interstate.
At the end of the main drag, at mile 3.3, is the launch part of
the complex, with five major structures. It is encircled by a chain-link
and barbed-wire topped perimeter fence, and is hidden from immediate
view from I-70 by some hills to the north. The gate into the main
complex is usually wide open, and there are no legible "No Trespassing"
signs anywhere in the area.
At the center is a bunker-type, concrete and earth structure.
Immediately behind the bunker is what appears to be one of the launch
sites, now only a concrete slab with metal rails along its length.
A couple hundred yards south of the bunker is the largest building
in the complex, known to be the former device assembly building.
Also in this main complex area is a large shed or garage, and a
collapsed tower.
I could find no signs of any recent activity, anywhere on the
site, in fact, the place looks utterly abandoned. In the four or
five hours I spent examining the site, I never saw another person.
(reprinted with permission)
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reply posted on 26-6-2004 @ 04:52 AM by WestPoint23
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this looks nothing like area 51 its a deserted old base
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reply posted on 20-8-2008 @ 09:00 PM by Anonymous ATS
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I must mention that many mil complexes, particularly in the CONUS west are built under old military bases.....Although it is questionable that
anything would be in that close a proximity to an Interstate highway, that would not be the first.......I have been in bases where the ground level
access is an abandoned hangar that looks like no one has been in it for 50 years, although normal access is through an "Andromeda Strain" kind of
access, an innocuous building with a secret protocol for access.....
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 03:08 PM by firepilot
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A remote Army facility in eastern Utah was called "the New Area 51" in Popular Mechanics Magazine's June cover story
How long ago did that faulty article come out? And it wont stop either apparently. The author had no idea where he was, or what he was talking about
for that matter.
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 03:10 PM by LogicalSolution
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
this looks nothing like area 51 its a deserted old base
That's what you can see on the outside.
Deep underground, about 15 miles down, is where the real stuff happens.
-LS
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 03:24 PM by EarthCitizen07
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15 miles down? LOL you got to be kidding. Maybe 1 or 2 max but generally speaking they do opt for secure, remote areas far from prying eyes.
Abandoned bases make good entry points and are easy to debunk.
Maybe an elevator shaft leading down or perhaps its connected to the underground maglev system. Who knows but certainly an interesting case.
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 05:32 PM by LogicalSolution
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by LogicalSolution
15 miles down? LOL you got to be kidding. Maybe 1 or 2 max but generally speaking they do opt for secure, remote areas far from prying eyes.
Abandoned bases make good entry points and are easy to debunk.
Maybe an elevator shaft leading down or perhaps its connected to the underground maglev system. Who knows but certainly an interesting case.
Oops, meant 15km down. We have been able to drill down and create mine shafts as much as 15km deep, so I don't think it's impossible for the
military to keep their extremely secret stuff that far underground.
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reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 10:30 PM by Anonymous ATS
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I live in green river and the photo you took is at the base but not all of it and no its not the new area 51 yes ther is under grond bunker but you
will never see them and yes ther is a landing strep but you will never see it eather and if you mess arond you mite be shot if not by the army then by
the towns peple so stay out and live our ufos and base alone we dont want you or any one else messing arond with us
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reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 06:46 AM by Anonymous ATS
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you people have to be kidding, right? secret bases miles underground, aliens and ufos hiding by the highway. this is a joke you people need to get
lives and realize that not everything is a government cover up, sometimes an abondoned base is just that and more often then not when the military
says something its true or maybe people dont need to know about it, you know the whole national security thing. oh and one more thing just because it
says "use of deadly force authorized" doesnt mean that you will be shot just for crossing a line or fence.
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reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 06:58 AM by BorgHoffen
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wtf?
What an attitude to have from mr anonymous here.
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reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 09:56 PM by hiii_98
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
you people have to be kidding, right? secret bases miles underground, aliens and ufos hiding by the highway. this is a joke you people need to get
lives and realize that not everything is a government cover up, sometimes an abondoned base is just that and more often then not when the military
says something its true or maybe people dont need to know about it, you know the whole national security thing.
why don t you go out there yourself and then make that comment? I did and what i saw defiantly did NOT look like a 100% abandoned base. It looked
like ALOT of new construction was going on at the base property, and most of it being underground work and laying miles of cables.
There is also supposedly a giant tunnel out there hidden behind some valleys that is accessible. I only had a short time to visit the base and wasnt
able to find it but i've read several rumors of its existance and i'm sure the locals may know where its at...supposedly its huge.
oh and one more thing just because it says "use of deadly force authorized" doesnt mean that you will be shot just for crossing a line or
fence.
I totally agree with you, they put that warning for the most extreme cases.
here is one picture i took, btw this obviously isnt abandoned
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reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 10:22 PM by W3RLIED2
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Interestingly enough. Google Earth already has it labeled. Also there are several known rocket launch pads right there in plain sight.
38* 54'07.24"N , 110*05'58.95"W
**click img for full size
To those who would put this past the US government i would warn them not to underestiamte them. This is exactly the type of thing they would do to
keep things hidden. This isn't the 50's anymore, the US Black projects teams can't just test their newest toys out in the open. And we have
treaties with the Russians to let them fly over Groom Lake with spy planes any time they feel the urge.
An answer to that may be several other locations underground. Theres been several 'rumors' floating around about Green rive, as well as Colorado
Springs, and the Crystal Mts. of Colorado. I would say that all of them are probably likely.
No, in future response to any inquiries, i do not have hard evidence of any of these sights actually being active. But, that doesn't mean they
aren't. If you google earth those locations you'll find a lot of places to hide a base... especially in the mountains.
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reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 10:51 AM by gecko13
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Been there, nothing out there. I used to live in Utah for a number of years and went metal detecting and gold panning over a lot of the state. Nothing
much really happens in Utah. You have the US Army base next to the Great Salt Lake but that really isnt very interesting unless they have a nerve gas
leak from where they are de-activating old weapons.
They aren't moving the units from Groome Lake, hell, they just finishished building that new hanger there. Massive hanger too.
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reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 03:57 PM by RyanLA123
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It reminds me of the Dulce story which came out before Bob Lazar's story. The security guard who leaked supposed information about the facility was
named Thomas Costello. Bob Lazar's co-worker was named Barry Costello oh wait Bob's real friend Jim Taliani just so happens to become Dennis
Mariani, his supervisor at S4 which is actually a real place at the TTR, but its a radar field. Oh, and how we found out the aliens came from Zeti
Reticuli was extracted from Betty and Barney Hill's story I don't know, if I remember Bob saying. Everybody uses the Zeti Reticuli star system when
speaking about aliens and where they come from. TIP use a different star system!  If there are secret activeties at a military facility such as
Dulce and this place they won't just let you walk around, there will be security and if you get suspicious you can whine somewhere else, just not
here on our secret facility.
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reply posted on 1-9-2009 @ 03:12 PM by UFOTracker66
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Its has been holding Biological Weapons for awhile
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 01:51 PM by MAJIC 12
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My friends and I laughed when Wilson got lost and couldn't find the front gate to the base from the east,he came up from the south around mercury and
drove up to a rusty locked chain and said: "It must be closed." My friend ordered several dozen of those Popular
mechanics issues for that month,and sold them from the center in Rachel,Nev.
Our impression was a decoy distraction for the Pe~na & Diaz tourists to lay- off Groom.
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 02:08 PM by MAJIC 12
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If you check the astronomy star charts,you will find that particular system has a chance of having earth-like planets because it's a stable binary
with two type G
stars that burn a little more helium and produce a slightly higher ultraviolet,
but otherwise isn't looked at from the northern hemisphere;it's in the southern.
The "Zetas" were most catalogued by Lt.Col.Wendle Stevens USAF Ret.( before
Bob Lazar and Gene Huff began their myth)in his Books:"Contact from Reticulum"
The artwork inside is worth it alone.Most of the drawings inside it are done by the witnesses in several seperate cases;Military and civilian provided
descriptions/composite and are very similar in detail. These types people confuse with the "greys'which these are Not related allegedly.
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 05:44 PM by RoofMonkey
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Originally posted by LogicalSolution
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by LogicalSolution
15 miles down? LOL you got to be kidding. Maybe 1 or 2 max but generally speaking they do opt for secure, remote areas far from prying eyes.
Abandoned bases make good entry points and are easy to debunk.
Maybe an elevator shaft leading down or perhaps its connected to the underground maglev system. Who knows but certainly an interesting case.
Oops, meant 15km down. We have been able to drill down and create mine shafts as much as 15km deep, so I don't think it's impossible for the
military to keep their extremely secret stuff that far underground.
The temperature is always increasing with depth, but it increases at a different rate depending on the layer of the Earth. So, in the upper part of
the Earth’s crust, the temperature is increasing at about 25 degrees Celsius per kilometer (or 72 degrees Fahrenheit per mile).
www.madsci.org...
15 miles × 72 = ~ 1080° F
15 kilometers × 25 = 375° C => 707° F
So... How do they handle the cooling?
BTW... the Autoignition temperature for some stuff:
Diesel or Jet A-1: 210°C (410°F)
Paper: 218°-246°C (424-474°F)
Gasoline (Petrol): 246-280°C (475-536°F)
en.wikipedia.org...
reply to post by hiii_98
That's a trenching machine. Find any fresh cable/pipe runs?
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