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Montana GOP policy: Make homosexuality illegal

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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 02:13 AM
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I always found this argument funny. For people who are not gay, they sure speak with authority on the matter, knowing what causes it, and whats needed to "fix" it..

Enforcing a law like this would be no different than enforcing the honor thy mother or fater, bare false witness, or covet thy neighbors wife.

I also find it funny that we have a law for the seperation of church and state, and yet you have people in Government who are wanting to pass a law based on their own religious beliefs. I guess we can go on to add that these morally superior religous representiatives always seem to forget the parts in their religion that says dont judge unless ye be judged yourself.

The hypocrisy alone is just funny. Who gives a rats ass who does what in the privacy of their own home. Does it really affect people in the manner described? If you found out your neighbor is gay, chances are you would avoid that person. Would you move out of your house? Does their lifestyle affect yours? Does having them live next door bring down your property values?

The "owners" manual people pull this BS from is over 2000 years old. If you want to use the bible as a template, then please for the love of God use all of it, and quit picking and choosing the portions that best fit your argument.

Bible hypocrisy breakdown - watch the scene from start to finish

Organized religion is nothing more than people fighting over who has the better imaginary friend.




posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 02:15 AM
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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 04:04 AM
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Oh, for f*&%k's sake!

I am officially giving up on humanity.

Anybody want to be sane with me?

No? Go on about your business.

Leave me and mine alone, or suffer the wrath or your own gods.

Cuz you know, soon as you transgress, you are are lost!

Good luck with that...........



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by Janky Red
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The liberals are the homophobes because they try and make laws that make people Gay.



How does that even make sense literally???

And how will certain laws make you gay, you don't CHOOSE to be gay, you're born liking people of the same sex, or people of the opposite sex. If you yourself is gay but CHOOSE to be straight, that's all well and good, go out with that woman, and marry but see if you can get hard without you thinking of Tom Hanks' hairy ass, or using Viagra. Sometimes admittedly though if you're bi, you can choose to either go out with only guys, or only girls, but in the end you're going to be attracted to both sexes. Please be logical and proofread your threads thank you.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 04:20 AM
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So do black males, does that mean that black males are detrimental to human reproduction as well?



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 04:35 AM
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So the guy shows his total dislike for homosexuals and you erroneously mistake it for "repressed homosexual feelings"? That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have ever seen written on ATS. That is like suggesting a guy who openly dislikes cheese has repressed cheese eating desires.
And the Nazis secretly loved the Jews.
That is something a mentally retarded person would suggest.

Your error seems more like a homosexual fantasy playing out in your head. If you are homosexual, that is actually a predictable fantasy. Many homosexuals can't go more than an hour without having some homosexual thought.

The truth is, you just tried to insult a member by suggesting he was homosexual. If you are homosexual I really feel sorry for you. You have to be really messed up to be gay, and make gay jokes.



edit on 21-9-2010 by Unst0ppable0ne because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by Unst0ppable0ne
reply to post by SaturnFX
 


So the guy shows his total dislike for homosexuals and you erroneously mistake it for "repressed homosexual feelings"? That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have ever seen written on ATS. That is like suggesting a guy who openly dislikes cheese has repressed cheese eating desires.
And the Nazis secretly loved the Jews.
That is something a mentally retarded person would suggest.

Your error seems more like a homosexual fantasy playing out in your head. If you are homosexual, that is actually a predictable fantasy. Many homosexuals can't go more than an hour without having some homosexual thought.

The truth is, you just tried to insult a member by suggesting he was homosexual. If you are homosexual I really feel sorry for you. You have to be really messed up to be gay, and make gay jokes.



edit on 21-9-2010 by Unst0ppable0ne because: (no reason given)



Comparing heterosexuals and homosexuals to Nazis' and Jews' of the 1930s is an example of the logical fallacy false analogy.

How do you know that his intentions were to insult? It is impossible to know what someone; thinks, knows, believes or feels. It is just an assumption made by you.

You have to be a messed up gay to make gay jokes huh? So a black person has to be messed up to make black jokes, or a jew to make jew jokes, or anyone to make any jokes about themselves? No actually it is good when people can joke about who they are, just watch a comedy channel for an hour and you will see.

" Many homosexuals can't go more than an hour without having some homosexual thought." Hmm that's not true. Most men actually have a sexual thought approxiaxently every 7 seconds.

Overall your post does an awful job at defying ignorance. You should re-read the sites rules and etiquette to understand more.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by Unst0ppable0ne
reply to post by SaturnFX
 


So the guy shows his total dislike for homosexuals and you erroneously mistake it for "repressed homosexual feelings"? That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have ever seen written on ATS. That is like suggesting a guy who openly dislikes cheese has repressed cheese eating desires.
And the Nazis secretly loved the Jews.
That is something a mentally retarded person would suggest.

Your error seems more like a homosexual fantasy playing out in your head. If you are homosexual, that is actually a predictable fantasy. Many homosexuals can't go more than an hour without having some homosexual thought.

The truth is, you just tried to insult a member by suggesting he was homosexual. If you are homosexual I really feel sorry for you. You have to be really messed up to be gay, and make gay jokes.



edit on 21-9-2010 by Unst0ppable0ne because: (no reason given)



Comparing heterosexuals and homosexuals to Nazis' and Jews' of the 1930s is an example of the logical fallacy false analogy.

How do you know that his intentions were to insult? It is impossible to know what someone; thinks, knows, believes or feels. It is just an assumption made by you.

You have to be a messed up gay to make gay jokes huh? So a black person has to be messed up to make black jokes, or a jew to make jew jokes, or anyone to make any jokes about themselves? No actually it is good when people can joke about who they are, just watch a comedy channel for an hour and you will see.

" Many homosexuals can't go more than an hour without having some homosexual thought." Hmm that's not true. Most men actually have a sexual thought approxiaxently every 7 seconds.

Overall your post does an awful job at defying ignorance. You should re-read the sites rules and etiquette to understand more.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by Ignorance_Defier
Comparing heterosexuals and homosexuals to Nazis' and Jews' of the 1930s is an example of the logical fallacy false analogy.


I didn't compare heterosexuals and homosexuals to Nazis and Jews. I just gave a vague example of how disliking someone is not a repressed feeling for that something. Jus tlike Nazis hating Jews is not a repressed feeling for Jews.

"Logical fallacy false analogy"??


What you just said above was completely idiotic.


Originally posted by Ignorance_Defier
How do you know that his intentions were to insult? It is impossible to know what someone; thinks, knows, believes or feels. It is just an assumption made by you.


It's not impossible to narrow down the intentions of someone by understanding the words they wrote and their intended purpose for the words. What other reason did he even have to make a comment towards the poster besides a type of ridicule? Not only did he suggest the member was homosexual, but he also suggested he was a pedophile. That is just an insult.

It's a common tactic by homosexuals to insult people who dislike homosexuals by calling them homosexual.

You failed agian.



Originally posted by Ignorance_Defier
You have to be a messed up gay to make gay jokes huh? So a black person has to be messed up to make black jokes, or a jew to make jew jokes, or anyone to make any jokes about themselves? No actually it is good when people can joke about who they are, just watch a comedy channel for an hour and you will see.


You took my words out of context. I was talking about trying to insult someone by suggesting they are what you are. Not a joke, but an insult. You don't see black people going around and insulting white people by calling them black. Maybe to joke, but not to seriously try to insult someone.

What you just did was list a bunch of false analogys.


Originally posted by Ignorance_Defier
" Many homosexuals can't go more than an hour without having some homosexual thought." Hmm that's not true. Most men actually have a sexual thought approxiaxently every 7 seconds.


The above quote just shows how you fail to think before you post. You just supported what I said, and explained how true it was...

A homosexual male who has a homosexual thought approximetly every 7 seconds means "they can't go more than a hour without having a homosexual thought".

EPIC FAIL.



Originally posted by Ignorance_Defier
Overall your post does an awful job at defying ignorance.


Overall your post does an awful job at defying ignorance, and shows that you fail at using any logical thinking skills.


Originally posted by Ignorance_Defier
You should re-read the sites rules and etiquette to understand more.


You should learn to read and think before you post.




edit on 21-9-2010 by Unst0ppable0ne because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 05:35 AM
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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:41 AM
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A different thread on ATS said that soon the GOP will be leaving this nation for greener pastures. I say it again, "Don't come back!"



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:13 AM
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This is so darn stupid. Would he arrest babies when they are born because they are gay and breaking his 'no homoesuxals' law? How would he figure out which babies are gay and which ones aren't? 1-2% of the population is homosexual. That'd put an awful lotta' babies in jail simply for being born homosexual.




posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by illumin8ed
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So seeing two men have sex is not disgusting to you?

I am not surprised that a perverted homosexual male is in your martial arts class. A majority of male homosexuals join those classes mainly to get their hands on other males.

Just like male homosexuals join wresting teams and football teams so they can wrestle with other males. I have met a homosexual that admitted it. He admitted he was a perverted sicko.


Wow, your ignorance is shameful.

The thought of seeing most people having sex is disgusting, unless you are attracted to them, whatever sex they are.

You think you know alot about gay men, yet you know nothing.

I used to do Thia Kick Boxing for many years and used to get into very up-close clinches with the men there. I was gay and i can tell you from fact that any thoughts of a sexual nature just weren't there.
If you have ever done a martial arts class you will know and understand how hard it is, not just physically but mentally. All your focus is on the class and what you are doing. You show respect and trust to those who you are fighting with, even to those you don't like or don't get on with outside the club.

I doubt that gay guy you met told you he was a perverted sicko, I just don't believe you on that.

I love your logical thinking, in that accepting gay people in society will end up making most straight people turn gay. I was surrounded by gay hating straight people whilst I was growing up, it didn't make me straight.

Sure more gay people will "come out" as it becomes less of a stigma but even if they did all come out, straight people will still be in the majority.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Miraj
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If thats his goal, I'm quite flattered. Even though knowing him, hes just a guy with a genuine interest in martial arts. I've seen him practice with women just as much as other men.

I don't think that gay men are after all men. Guys and women can be friends, and I've had quite a few female friends that I've never harbored sexual feelings for.


I salute you



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:57 AM
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en.wikipedia.org...


lol, here is something for the weirdos that have problems with their own confident heterosexuality.

the world is a wonderfully scary place!



not you.


edit on 21-9-2010 by fooks because: for clarity



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:32 AM
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Raising a child in a world were homosexuality is "ok", were people speak highly of homosexuality, and see nothing wrong with it, increases the chances of the child growing up to be homosexual.


What that situation would do would is increase the chances of the child growing up to accept and be comfortable around homesexuality; not become homosexual. You cannot just become gay any more than you can just become a blond when you were born with black hair or become 7' tall when your genes programmed you for 6'.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by harrytuttle
The entire country is falling apart, and you want to focus on making a lifestyle "illegal"?


This isn't specific to the GOP I do apologize.

Gays can't marry, kids can't have lemonade stands without a permit to sell, adults cannot smoke whatever herb they want to..... aren't these all the govt. getting into people's lives?

You all will corner this issue to the GOP because it's a juicy social issue however making a lifestyle illegal is something happening throughout govt. both republican and democrat.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
This is so darn stupid. Would he arrest babies when they are born because they are gay and breaking his 'no homoesuxals' law? How would he figure out which babies are gay and which ones aren't? 1-2% of the population is homosexual. That'd put an awful lotta' babies in jail simply for being born homosexual.



People aren't born homosexual, they make the choice to be



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 09:03 AM
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Actually studies have been done that have shown in many cases homophobes are simply repressing sexual desires. In a landmark study done by Adams, Wright, & Lohr (1996), they found that homophobic men were much more likely to have an erectile response when shown homoerotic images than non-homophobic heterosexual men.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 09:03 AM
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I'm adopting a personal law to make being a republican illegal, now, lets ship all these republican bastards to mexico where they will be happy




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