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Montana GOP policy: Make homosexuality illegal

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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:12 AM
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This is why you shouldn't vote Republican.

These people are completely insane.




posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by rogerstigers




Isn't it funny how the most truth often has to be said in jest.

IMO we are all bi, were just of different ends of the scale, and everyone is unique... I would put myself as "straight" about 85:15...

Homophobes are sooo last century

Quit livin' in the past mayne!!



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:23 AM
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And that is exactly why it should be approached as a secular moral problem and not a religious one. Although you are entirely wrong about the US being formed as a secular nation, but that's another point entirely.

For example, currently we still have some barriers against certain behaviors, such as polygamy, prostitution, sex with minors etc. There are some countries that do not have such restrictions and are even promoting pedophilia. Germany and France come to mind.

Now why do we still have such laws? Why don't we just pipe pornography directly into kindergarten as a form of education? (Already happening under the guise of sex education by the way.) Why do the police arrest couples fornicating in public? Is the government intruding on their 'freedoms'? The answer seems obvious to you now, it clearly represents a social ill that has a negative impact on society. Most of you would still draw the line against such behavior, however I assure you such things will become more commonplace as we define decency downward.

Adultery, homosexuality etc. were all once crimes for very good social reasons, just as prostitution still is. Those social reasons are still true though you think freedom equals doing whatever you please with your privates.


edit on 21-9-2010 by SevenThunders because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:27 AM
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Prostitution is illegal because the religious Right bitch and moan about it. Also, no politician, left OR right will tackle the issue and attempt to legalize it. Why? Because it's political suicide. Don't forget, in this country, it's all about "family values" and paying for sex or selling sex is somehow against those "values." That's why it's illegal. It's strictly political and about votes. Nothing else.

As for homosexuality, it was never illegal for "good" social reasons. In fact, it's taboo and immoral in the eyes of those who live their lives as bigots. Nothing more.

Homosexuality is natural and there's nothing wrong with it. If you think otherwise, then well, it's time to grow up and become civilized.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:28 AM
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I'm just not going to bother. Its become apparent to me you aren't interested in a discussion.

Have a wonderful morning, day or night gay bashing.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:30 AM
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I am going to put this as simply as possible: WHATEVER happens behind closed doors between consenting adults is NONE of YOUR or THE GOVERNMENT'S business, PERIOD! The key words there were CONSENTING and ADULTS...

And if you can show me ONE reference to God in the Constitution, I will capitulate on the assertion that this nation was founded as a Secular Nation... If not...



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:34 AM
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I can't have discussions with mentally ill homosexuals that are in denial.

No matter how much proof I show that homosexuality is a mental issue, they will always cry and insult me.

Get over it, homosexuality is a mental issue. All of your opinions and personality traits are mental. This includes your sexual "preference". Do you even know what "preference" means? Obviously not.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:34 AM
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If thats his goal, I'm quite flattered. Even though knowing him, hes just a guy with a genuine interest in martial arts. I've seen him practice with women just as much as other men.

I'm not into watching gay sex. But (and don't judge me for this xD) when I have seen glances of it on certain types of sites looking for certain types of very heterosexual material.. It didn't bother me. I was indifferent to it. To each their own.

I don't think that gay men are after all men. Guys and women can be friends, and I've had quite a few female friends that I've never harbored sexual feelings for.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:35 AM
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So if one adult is killing another adult, as long as it is in the privacy of their own home, it's none of the governments business?

Great logic... NOT!



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:36 AM
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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:37 AM
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I don't know why I'm still posting to you.. But this is my last post for tonight. I'm not gay, and I'm fairly certain you are a somewhat effective troll. I hope that the moderators are observing you closely, and noting that you are either extremely stubborn or purposefully trying to get people mad..

I'm not afraid of my sexuality, if I were gay, I would admit it. But I'm not gay.

You showed not one bit of proof. But have a wonderful night, I'm going to bed.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:37 AM
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OK, let's make blue eyes illegal.

Let's make black hair illegal.

Let's make being female illegal.

Let's make being male illegal.

They didn't shoot themselves in the foot - they shot themselves in the (brainless) head.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:39 AM
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Still waiting for that 'proof' that homosexuality is a psychiatric disorder... The CDC link, which is the only link you have provided, did not address this issue. So please, provide a link that provides medical proof from trained Psychiatrists or Psychologists that homosexuality is a disorder and prove once and for all that you are not here just to verbally gay bash other members...



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:42 AM
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Declaration of independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


John Adams:

“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”



"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:45 AM
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None of what you posted was from the Constitution, which is the founding document of this nation.... I asked for one reference to God in the Constitution, not the Declaration of Independence, nor from the personal documents of the Founding Fathers...



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:46 AM
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I doubt that the adult being murdered is CONSENTING, so your post is a straw man fallacy. My logic still stands.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:50 AM
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You are splitting hairs. The intent is quite clear. You can play semantics games all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the US constitution and the very independence movement was based on christian principles. This is why lawyers need to be put out of business, maybe cleaning latrines or something.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:54 AM
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If what you say is true, then the First Amendment would not include the Freedom of and from religion. It is quite clear that they felt that religion, no matter what religion it might be, had NO place in government. Thus they wrote a completely SECULAR document to base this nation upon.



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