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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by dr_strangecraft
A hollow victory is just that: Hollow.
Now go back to playing with your Rush and Hannity dolls.
Originally posted by frimilden
reply to post by soficrow
A republic is a republic is a republic, such as a democracy is a democracy is a democracy.
Apples and oranges there. This country is a republic plain and simple.
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
reply to post by Janky Red
My point is that you switch between belittling the tea party and equating the right with Republicans' (in)action on petroleum issues.
I don't believe that "the right" = "GOP" = "the Tea Parties"
Holding Conservatism responsible for what GOP hacks vote on in congress is like holding leftists responsible for the Democrats' hiring of Goldman Sachs ex-employees to oversee the bailout of .... Goldman Sachs.
Originally posted by Janky Red
I Equate the Tea Party with Republicans for several reasons; First because FOX news has been the single
biggest creator of the RINO situation in the right.
They sold the Patriot Act, GITMO, a Trillion Dollar war, warrant less wire tapping, un precidented growth of government, etc, etc... FOX was the sales man, the entity that
somehow convinced conservatives, on mass, to support the previous president and his expansive agenda.
Now it appears the FOX is a very large part of TTPM and has been for some time
If TTPM were serious about getting their house in order, ejecting the RINO's, rejecting Government secrecy and
imperialist expansion - they would have turned their back on the organization simply because of FOX's role in helping destroy the meaning of conservative by promoting and championing these ideas.
Let me ask you - If I told you I had a new party that was different from the DEM's, what would you think?
How about I call it the Populace party -
Lets say, MSNBC covered and promoted it everyday, Howard Dean was the Chairman, Chris Mathews
helped promote and organize it on his show. The NCAA, La Raza and Green Peace helped fund the rallies...
At our rallies we discussed universal Healthcare, Bashed Christianity and talked about raising the Upper 1%
tax rate to 90% Eisenhower style.
What would you honestly think sir???
I would also like to ask you... do you think the GOP should have investigated OPEC when gas shot up to
$5.50 a gallon, given the testimony of the Shell CEO which pointed to massive manipulation?
Originally posted by ChocoTaco369
I have a simple question for the OP.
In order to be right-winged, you believe in a small centralized government. The Federal government should essentially be minimized. In order for a government to effectively be fascist, it has to be large enough to overwhelm nearly every aspect of a citizen's life and powerful enough to basically lock them in a prison within the walls of their country. So, my question is as follows:
How can a true right-winger be fascist when the very definition of a right-winger is to want a government that is too small and lacks the power to oppress?
Every example of government oppression occurs on the left. Only when the government is large and powerful can it oppress the people. That's the idea behind conservatism: there is always liberty when the government fears the people.
The OP is clueless.
Originally posted by kallisti36
Far too much BS for me to cope with here. Hitler, was a progressive, he progressed away from the policies of the Weimar Republic. He was not a progressive as a right wing pundit would describe today (Obama is a progressive, but not a facsist) but was a progressive none the less. Hitler constantly talked about how Christianity was meak and flabby and he would have liked nothing more than to do away with it, because that was where he was meeting alot of opposition. Even though the Pope did not condemn the holocaust, the Catholic church in Germany was among the most outspoken opponents to the "Life unworthy of life" policy. There is a major difference between nationalism and patriotism. Patriotism: devoted love, support, and defense of one's country; national loyalty. Nationalism: the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of one's own nation, viewed as separate from the interests of other nations or the common interests of all nations. The progressive liberals are promoting self hatred in order to further their agenda whereas the "facsist" right is promoting patriotism. I think I'll take the positive outlook over the negative one. That being said, I'm not here to support the neo-conservatives. They expanded the government, took away our civil liberties and lied about being "conservative". However, what the liberals are offering is much worse. I do not want, forced economic "equality", I want to take chances, succeed or fail and try again. Marxism does not work as an economic model, Castro himself admitted to it. There is no argument that the liberal progressives are marching towards socialism, the argument is whether you want that or not. PLEASE vote third party this November, Republicans and Democrats are equally reprehensible and I personally would love to see a Libertarian house and senate.
Originally posted by slinger
reply to post by neo96
Communism,socialism,do not work and is a tyrannical way to govern people,just ask the dolly llama,the millions of people murdered buy Mao,or the millions murdered buy Stalin! look at how well its going in say Greece or France, then tell us how nice that way of government is. What we have in this country is the most free form of not just a government ,but LIFE IT SELF! granted some have been exploiting this form of government but that is YOUR fault you for the last 100 years have voted for the leaders we have that have put you in this position! And now you will give more control to the government? do you not see what you have lost and now willing to give away? The terms left and right come from the Romans not the french! in Rome if you were for the Cesar you stood on his right, if not you stood on his left thus left and right! The only thing correct in this post is YOU have let our government have too much power to let bankers set the rules! do you even know that your government gave control of our money to a bank called the federal reserve, and that bank IS NOT CONTROLED BUY OUR GOVERNMENT? THE USA CONTROLS NONE OF IT'S OWN MONEY! So no the right don't fit the definition of fascism,the left do they are the ones that want to control everything, the right just has let the corporate America buy there way into control ! The tea party sorry to disappoint you is for restoring the freedoms we have lost! taking back control from the bankers and politicians! the right of the government we have IS NOT PART OF THE TEA PARTY! they sure would like to hijack it but they are fooling them self in thinking we feel they are true republicans THEY ARE NOT! when we have control you will see rinos on the street looking for jobs but first we will take it from the communist and socialist first! If you think you are free you are wrong join us in giving freedom back to the rightful owners, the everyday people of the United States of America!