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Govt reported both UA93 black boxes found on the same day AND a day early!!!

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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 02:44 AM
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Looks like the govt perps just couldn't get the timing of their script right to the media again.


Flight 93
Jetliner Was Diverted Toward Washington Before Crash in Pa.

By Charles Lane and Philip Pan
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, September 12, 2001; Page A10

The San Francisco-bound United Airlines passenger jet that crashed in western Pennsylvania shortly after 10 a.m. today had been diverted from its planned flight path and was heading in the general direction of Washington when it plunged to earth, killing all 45 persons aboard.

United Flight 93, originating in Newark, followed a seemingly normal course until it reached Cleveland, where it suddenly made a sharp turn south, followed by another turn toward the southeast, according to Federal Aviation Administration radar tracking reports. The reports were published on the Web by Flight Explorer at www.flightexplorer.com.

[snip]

FBI agents quickly took possession of the tape of that 911 call, which constitutes the only public evidence so far of what went on during the doomed plane's last moments. The FBI declined to provide any information about the tape's contents or the identity of the caller. At the crash site, FBI Special Agent Jeff Killeen said he was unaware if there had been any communication from the pilot.

Authorities late today recovered the plane's flight-data and cockpit-voice recorders, government sources said. These should permit authorities to reconstruct what went on in the cockpit during the flight.

Archived: www.highbeam.com...
Original: www.washingtonpost.com...


The final story ended with the following recovery timeline of:
9/13 - FDR
9/14 - CVR




posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 02:53 AM
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Flight 93 was shot down, period.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 03:27 AM
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reply to post by Chordz
 


shot down is a big claim
by who
and for what reason?
xp



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by Chordz
Flight 93 was shot down, period.


Why do you think this? I believe that people on the flight attacked the terrorist to stop the plane from hitting possibly the white house. You think it was shot down by like bullets?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 03:48 AM
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STOP DISCUSSING THE DISINFO SHOOT DOWN THEORY.

It's off topic and it didn't happen.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:41 AM
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Early news reports. Where does it say " The Govt " reported anything ?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 06:01 AM
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ATTENTION:

Let's stay focused on the topic, please!

Any further off-topic posts will be removed without further warning or discussion.

Thank you.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 06:58 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 10:35 AM
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ATH911 really? 27 = the number of threads now regarding Flight 93 you have started. Not a single one of them offer any evidence of an inside job.

Your latest is this archived Washington Times article from September 12th. You put an emphasis on Authorities late today recovered the plane's flight-data and cockpit-voice recorders, government sources said.

So, it appears the writer of this article reported that both boxes were found on September 12th? This is your conspiracy? Really?

There are many other news sources that reported it differently:


Of the airliner parts, the pieces that investigators judged most significant were the plane's cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder, both unearthed within 3 1/2 days of the crash.

www.post-gazette.com...


Black box recovered at Shanksville site
By Richard Gazarik and Robin Acton, TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, September 14, 2001
FBI Agent William Crowley announced Thursday afternoon that investigators using heavy equipment found the recorder in a crater at the crash site near Lambertsville in Stonycreek Township.

www.pittsburghlive.com...



AFTER THE ATTACKS: THE PENNSYLVANIA CRASH; Searchers Find Plane Cockpit Voice Recorder
CHAMPION, Pa., Sept. 14— As the families of those killed in the crash of United Airlines Flight 93 began to gather here, investigators found the crucial cockpit voice recorder deep in the crash crater and sent it to Washington for analysis.
The search continued for the remains of the 45 people on the plane.
An F.B.I. spokesman, Bill Crowley, said the recorder, which was found at a depth of 25 feet about 8:30 p.m., appeared to be in good condition.
The recorder is designed to record the last 30 minutes or conversation in the cockpit and could provide more detail about what happened on the plane.
Senator Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania, said at an earlier news conference in Shanksville, near the crash site, that the flight's other black box, the data recorder, recovered yesterday, was also found in the crater carved by the plane, at a depth of about 15 feet.

query.nytimes.com...



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 10:38 AM
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The FBI said so, that means the government said so, since the FBI is a government agency. The FBI also refuses to show what really happened on those tapes, meaning the FBI is guilty of concealing crucial evidence. If any citizen did something like that they would most likely be prosecuted, in jail waiting for their trial to begin (also unconstitutional, just saying).



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by filosophia
The FBI said so, that means the government said so, since the FBI is a government agency. The FBI also refuses to show what really happened on those tapes, meaning the FBI is guilty of concealing crucial evidence. If any citizen did something like that they would most likely be prosecuted, in jail waiting for their trial to begin (also unconstitutional, just saying).


What are you talking about? You think the FBI is still sitting on the tapes? Do you know it is 2010 AD?


FDR Investigation:
www.ntsb.gov...

ATC Report United Airlines Flight 93
www.ntsb.gov...

Flight Path Study United Airlines Flight 93
www.ntsb.gov...

Autopilot American Airlines Flight 77 and United Airlines Flight 93 Study
www.ntsb.gov...

Recorded Radar Data Study all Four Aircraft
www.ntsb.gov...



edit on 20-9-2010 by Six Sigma because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by Chordz
 


shot down is a big claim
by who
and for what reason?
xp


Shot down by who? By the United States military. For what reason? To prevent an out of control aircraft from killing more innocent people on the ground.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 12:40 PM
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" Wednesday, September 12, 2001; Page A10

The San Francisco-bound United Airlines passenger jet that crashed in western Pennsylvania shortly after 10 a.m. today ..."

Hmmm ... I could have sworn that Flight 93 crashed on September 11, 2001 ., not September 12 ?

So much for scrutinizing your sources before hastily posting them on ATS .



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Alfie1
Early news reports. Where does it say " The Govt " reported anything ?


Authorities late today recovered the plane's flight-data and cockpit-voice recorders, government sources said.

Govt reports to the media, the media reports that to us. You really didn't know that's how it works in situations involving an investigation by govt officials?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by ATH911
Govt reports to the media, the media reports that to us. You really didn't know that's how it works in situations involving an investigation by govt officials?

From what I understand of US media, naming sources is considered common practise.

Over here, 'a well informed source' is often used, which can mean anything.

If you distrust the media so much, why do you accept beyond question that this information came directly from someone who would know what they were talking about in the government?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by Six Sigma

ATH911 really? 27 = the number of threads now regarding Flight 93 you have started. Not a single one of them offer any evidence of an inside job.

What a bold-faced lie. All of my threads offer evidence of a conspiracy. You might not like the evidence, understand the evidence, or be in denial of the evidence, but to say none of them offer any evidence is nothing but a lie. Being a liar isn't good for one's credibility.


Your latest is this archived Washington Times article from September 12th. You put an emphasis on Authorities late today recovered the plane's flight-data and cockpit-voice recorders, government sources said.

So, it appears the writer of this article reported that both boxes were found on September 12th? This is your conspiracy? Really?

There are many other news sources that reported it differently:

Um yeah, that's the point. Let's see how long it takes for you to get it.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by okbmd
reply to post by ATH911
 


" Wednesday, September 12, 2001; Page A10

The San Francisco-bound United Airlines passenger jet that crashed in western Pennsylvania shortly after 10 a.m. today ..."

Hmmm ... I could have sworn that Flight 93 crashed on September 11, 2001 ., not September 12 ?

So much for scrutinizing your sources before hastily posting them on ATS .

Oh, so it was reported both were found TWO days before 9/13. Even BETTER evidence the govt screwed up their script!

Thanks okbmd!!!!



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by exponent

If you distrust the media so much, why do you accept beyond question that this information came directly from someone who would know what they were talking about in the government?

Let's see, the scene was controlled by the FBI. The news article said "government sources said." Hmm, now why would I think it's legit?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 05:35 PM
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Yes, this is the question I am asking. You seem to have just repeated yourself?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by ATH911


Um yeah, that's the point. Let's see how long it takes for you to get it.


After an exhausting search for this article, I finally found it! (without paying)


Indeed the article states that both boxes were found on Tuesday evening.(September 11th) Agent Jeff Killeen was the agent they claim stated this. It's obvious the post got it wrong.

What is interesting is that Agent Killeen on the same day,the Pittsburgh Post didn't report the boxes being found:


Jeff Killeen, an FBI spokesman from Pittsburgh, said the main thrust of the agency's investigation will begin today when authorities divide the crash scene into grids and comb the area for evidence.

Yesterday, the priority of the FBI and state troopers was to protect the scene.

"The FBI will follow every lead to bring this case to a successful conclusion," Killeen said during a news conference held at the foot of the hill below the crash site under a hastily erected white tent.

Investigators did not locate the plane's flight data recorder or cockpit voice recorder, the so-called black boxes that would give information about the plane's behavior as well as conversations in the cockpit.


What is even more interesting is that on the same day, the Washington Post did not repeat the story as they quote Gov. Tom Ridge as stating they are still looking for the black boxes.

source:
www.baylor.edu...






edit on 20-9-2010 by Six Sigma because: (no reason given)



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