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Is this 9/11 nonsense going to ever go away? ZERO eveidence but still pushing on!

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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:04 PM
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reply to post by L1U2C3I4F5E6R
 


Wow i am almost ready to talk down to you like you talk down to others for having points of views and when they do not agree with yours you go on this little tyrant rant like a told off child.

here this does not go away and i know it is past your age..but hey...i was around when it happened....not old but around....


When President John F. Kennedy threatened the "High Cabal" by toppling their Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba, firing Allen Dulles as head of the CIA, and making plans to take control of the Federal Reserve System, he was assassinated. The U.S. Secret Service, in violation of their own rules and procedures,

in collusion with the ruling plutocrats, deliberately failed to protect President Kennedy. The Secret Service knowingly escorted him in an open car around a hairpin turn into the sights of paid assassins, who fired by military-style triangulation.
In the aftermath of the bloody assassination of President Kennedy in Dallas on November 22, 1963, over 200 eyewitnesses and sources were themselves murdered, obliterating possible testimony, contrary to the falsified Warren Report.
JFK was assassinated because the "High Cabal" wanted to regain its stranglehold on the country.
The Kennedy "assassination has demonstrated that most of the major events of world

significance are masterfully planned and orchestrated by an elite coterie of enormously powerful people who are not of one nation, one ethnic grouping, or one overridingly important business group. They are a power unto themselves for whom those others work. Neither is this power elite of recent origin. Its roots go deep into the past.”
L. Fletcher Prouty. JFK: The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy


source

now learn what the goverment does to people that get in the way of truth...oh yes...it is happening with 9/11 too....people being wisked off....people being held in Gauntanamo with no formal charges...people like John O'neil being killed.

but you go on and trust that you think your government just made a mistake and let four planes come through your security net and accomplished this task without foreknowledge....be well living in your dreamstate...and may the Elite choose you first as one of the people that does not fit their bill for you to live.




posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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I originally came here on advise from someone. I have been here for 2 years. I set up an account a few months ago as I was interested in some of the stuff concerning Religion and Weird animals that have been found. But every day someone posts more and more ludicrous ideas to the 9/11 theory.

You all change your stories, from EMP machines, nano tech, thermite, nuclear and it goes on and on till someone else jumps on the wagon with their craziness. All the while not one person actually has a single shred of THEIR OWN real evidence. I read EVERY thread on here about 9/11. Some twice then read it again. I watched countless videos over and over again. read statements, read theories of how buildings fall and how it compares to the trade center buildings. Looked at the people who are performing this research and conclude, based on evidence on this website alone, the ideas are good, the stories are ok, the people they come from are suspect. All in All someof it is plausible but so are a lot of other type theories. I still can not be convinced by any of the tripe i have read through. Most of it is regurgitated and twisted to fit the theory. Sorry but you don't convince us one bit. It is all speculation and guess work with some very poor science added in.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by umigo
Post all you like you will never hide the truth. Funny how your name has the name Lucifer in it hidden in code of numbers, L1U2C3I4F5E6R



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:15 PM
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To all us Truthers... just ingore the OP and those who agree with him. The OP.. a.k.a. Lucifer 1,2,3,4,5,6.

We all know what the real truth is.. the OP doesn't know what he's talking about or he is a dis-info agent.

FACT: 911 was an inside job... EVERYONE SAY IT OUT LOUD WHILE YOU READ THIS. Spread the energy around... they can't hide the truth any longer. WE WILL NOT LET THEM !

:-)



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:17 PM
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I will almost garauntee you have not been reading my thread on 9/11 as it might be to indepth for you...and when you generalize about people and put them in one catagory you make yourself look like a foolish person...cause yes some are far out theories and some are well written and full of good knowledge...and if the actual reasons were found out about all that went down on that day well then maybe it would be more acceptable...but as many people have replied there are many things that just don't work for logical minds in the OS.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

but saying that I am sure lots of people are not reading it as there is no fighting going on in it...and the few comments have only been positive...


but even so it has gotten a flag or two...but i am not out for sensationalism...i am attempting with help of others whom u2u me to get to the real players.


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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:17 PM
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I completely agree with the OP.

There's has been ZERO, read it ZERO evidence backing up the official story yet we still have to endure its obvious lies.

when will the make believe stop?



edit on 20-9-2010 by Agit8dChop because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:23 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!


Wow, you made my day! That video in your OP - you realize - it is sarcasm, intended for people just as *humbly-endowed* as you. The irony is so beautiful I can taste it. Oh, sweet, sweet irony! Lol, continue denying ignorance, ATS soldier! Hahahahah. Tasty.

edit on 20-9-2010 by Son of Will because: trying to follow T&C, but considering the OP's vitriol, why bother?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Wolf Eyes
To all us Truthers... just ingore the OP and those who agree with him. The OP.. a.k.a. Lucifer 1,2,3,4,5,6.

We all know what the real truth is.. the OP doesn't know what he's talking about or he is a dis-info agent.

FACT: 911 was an inside job... EVERYONE SAY IT OUT LOUD WHILE YOU READ THIS. Spread the energy around... they can't hide the truth any longer. WE WILL NOT LET THEM !

:-)



If we all knew what the real truth is then this thread would not be here, this website would not exist .

If we all the know the 'REAL' truth why are we here?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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You sure are employing all kinds of mental gymnastics, illogical rationalizations, ridiculous comparisons and outright denial to avoid thinking about the implications of a neocon cabal in the U.S. government murdering 3,000 of it's own citizens (and millions more in Iraq and Afghanistan.) I also noticed that you avoided any comment on my Operation Northwoods post above.

I believe this is called "cognitive dissonance."



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:29 PM
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Well,
I guess this thread is just a continuation of the video in the first post. One thing is correct though, there is ZERO eveidence
I will hazard a guess, and say that Leo Wanta, (the ambassador of Snake Hill) is the culprit. In the early initial confusion, he managed to shake off his CIA watchers, enough to get to his secret bank account and transfer the acquired billions to somewhere in Europe, possibly Belfast, in a susidiary bank to a well known Scottish bank. It took GW a while to figure it out, so he popped over to Belfast shortly before he left office, but old Gordy Brown chased him to Belfast from London to make sure he wasn't gonna be left out, but surprise, surprise, all the fighting factions in N. Ireland had got together, Caught Leo Wanta coming out with the loot, and made off with the money...after all it is to pay the IRA, and UVF, and UDA and and PIRA and so on.... PENSION funds.
The Scottish bank in the meanwhile nearly went bust after such a big withdrawal, 'cos it has been using the account funds bigtime. It all makes sense doesn't it! Leo Wanta is now part of the foundations in the Victoria Mall.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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It is soooooo very Ironic....that the OP chooses a video that is completely and utterly sarcasm that completely promotes the truther.....

I had to look and laugh quite a few times at the video myself...and it is great....but hey It is up to us to try to Enlighten The OP with knowledge.

stars for you Son Of Will

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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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Ah and what exactly is the offical story? Have you truthers ever made a consensus on that yet? As far as I know the only offical story is that radical Islam terrorists hijacked 4 airliners, smashing three into buildings and a fourth going down into a field. Two buildings collapsed from the resulting damage and fires together, while a third collapsed as collateral from damage and fires which were unchallenged for hours after the collapses.

So no, I see more evidence for this to be true than everything the TM has put forward for the last 9 years combined. I still cannot get a straight answer from anyone as to how the WTC were to have been brought down with CD. Was it thermite? Magic super thermite? Magic super nano thermite? MSNT as a fuse for some super secret radio controlled magic thermite bomb devices that explode silently? I mean really, this is about as disorganized as it gets for the TM. The "OS" as you call it is a heck of a lot more organized with their theories than anything the TM has been able to put forward.

And then to boot, you go on about Operation Northwoods, which means absolutely NOTHING in context to 9/11. Nothing! Zero! And yet you push it forward as if this idea is the smoking gun for 9/11, because of of what some Cold War era whiz kid hired to come up with creative ways of fighting the Commies, came up with for their intelligence agency to prepare for war. They make plans for everything, even including war with Canada ("War Plan Red") and what to do then. So what, if we go and attack Canada for whatever, are you going to jump on it and say, Aha! They've planned this before, so it must mean they've been planning this for years! FYI, Operation Northwoods did not included murdering 3,000 people, nor did it involve killing US civilians. So that right there sinks your delusional fantasy of Operation Northwoods begin a template for 9/11. Its not. Oh and where are all those people from the flights that died on 9/11? Or their families? Are you going to tell them it was all faked?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:32 PM
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What lies exactly? Can you be specific?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:33 PM
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Does this guy know anything about 1,200 plus architects and engineers saying is was an inside job?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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Look. I am still waiting for any Evidence from someone. But until I get something that will change my opinion I like you lot will hold fast. You "truthers" (wrong name for you lot) are if anything persistent. And we all know that persistence is often met with vengeance. So good luck.

You remind me of something I once read. IT was about the Challenger disaster and the mother of Ronald Mcnair. Ronald was one of the astronauts on board the fateful challenger that day when it blew up. But his mother could not believe that he was dead. she said and I quote:

"Ronald is still alive. He is a good swimmer. He fell into the ocean and swam to an island somewhere. they will
find him someday."

Reality is hard to hand for many people. Thinking that a group of Islamic terrorists could do this on American soil would I suppose be hard for your brain and subconscious to handle. The fact that even In your work places and homes you are no longer safe, can cause havoc to one's rational thought. Its easier to believe what would make more sense to you than believe what really happened.

I hold no negative feelings to anyone in the truther movement. I applaud some (not many) for their efforts. But most are purely hangers on. Needing a conspiracy to fuel their desire. Its like a drug to most. But those who use other peoples research to disprove a fact are clearly none to clever. Just members of the a group.

If someday someone announces they have scientific proof and evidence that the scientific community can confirm, i assure you I will be the first to stand up and admit I was wrong. I dont see that day coming anytime soon. Maybe 9 years is not enough time for these people to build a case. Maybe 19 years might be more their pace. I am patient.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by L1U2C3I4F5E6R

I think it is a bit insane to draw absurd conclusions with only 20 mins of manipulated footage to support these claims.


I assume you mean the pentagon footage?

Judicial Watch September 11 Pentagon Video -- 1 of 2



www.youtube.com...

Judicial Watch September 11 Pentagon Video -- 2 of 2



www.youtube.com...

911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77



www.youtube.com...


Originally posted by L1U2C3I4F5E6R

Yes the government made many Identity errors when naming suspects as some where clearly alive.


You are right about that, here is some information I found about that.


At Least 7 of the 9/11 Hijackers are Still Alive


whatreallyhappened.com...


ALLEGED 9/11 HIJACKERS: AMERICAN AIRLINES Flight 11 Crashed into WTC 1


This is what I find quite remarkable.


The FBI has been conducting a block-by-block "grid search" through devastated lower Manhattan, looking for the voice and flight data recorders of the two aircraft flown into the twin towers.

Investigators discovered the passport of Satam al Suqami, one of the terrorists aboard American Airlines Flight 11, the first plane to hit the World Trade Center


whatreallyhappened.com...



ALLEGED 9/11 HIJACKERS: UNITED AIRLINES Flight 175 Crashed into WTC 2


whatreallyhappened.com...



ALLEGED 9/11 HIJACKERS: AMERICAN AIRLINES Flight 77 Crashed into the Pentagon


This is what I find quite remarkable.


One of the hijackers aboard the plane that crashed into the Pentagon was stopped for speeding within a few miles of the military headquarters six weeks before the attack, police confirmed Tuesday.

Hani Hanjour, who is believed to have piloted the hijacked plane into the Pentagon, was ticketed Aug. 1 for driving 55 mph in a 30 mph zone in the 1800 block of South George Mason Drive, Arlington, Va., police said. Three weeks after the stop,
Hanjour mailed in a money order to pay a $70 fine and $30 in court costs, Arlington General District Court Clerk Kimberly Reazey said Tuesday. [Washington Post]

Why did Hanjour pay a speeding fine three weeks before a planned suicide mission?


whatreallyhappened.com...



ALLEGED 9/11 HIJACKERS: UNITED AIRLINES Flight 93 Crashed in rural Pennsylvania


This is what I find quite remarkable.


Mr Al-Nami, 33, from Riyadh, an administrative supervisor with Saudi Arabian Airlines, said that he was in Riyadh when the terrorists struck.

He said: "I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked."

He had never lost his passport and found it "very worrying" that his identity appeared to have been "stolen" and published by the FBI without any checks. The FBI had said his "possible residence" was Delray Beach in Florida. [Telegraph]


whatreallyhappened.com...

Then I found this article.


THE NEW YORKER; What Went Wrong; The C.I.A. and the failure of American intelligence.
by Seymour M. Hersh October 8, 2001


This is what I find quite remarkable.


A former high-level intelligence official told me, “Whatever trail was left was left deliberately—for the F.B.I. to chase.”



In interviews over the past two weeks, a number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden’s capabilities. “This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he’s running this operation?” one C.I.A. official asked. “It’s so huge. He couldn’t have done it alone.”



A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. “To get somebody to fly an airplane—to kill himself,” the official added, further suggests that “somebody paid his family a hell of a lot of money.”


www.newyorker.com...







edit on 20/9/10 by spacevisitor because: Add some info and made some corrections



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
I completely agree with the OP.

There's has been ZERO, read it ZERO evidence backing up the official story yet we still have to endure its obvious lies.

when will the make believe stop?



edit on 20-9-2010 by Agit8dChop because: (no reason given)



This is just one of those silly things some truthers say; perhaps in the hope that keep repeating it will make it true.

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth , how about having a look at the 1202 court exhibits in the trial US v Zacarias Moussaoiu. A trial which resulted in conviction.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:43 PM
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Here are 11 FACTS about 9/11.
If this doesn't kick-start your instincts, then nothing will.
www2.ae911truth.org...

If you are waiting for the MSN to tell you the truth, then be prepared to live in the dark for a very long time...

It's pretty easy to sit back and say "Prove it." Why don't you prove it wasn't an inside job. (That's a bit harder isn't it? It involves doing research.)

I would respect you all so much more if you went down the checklist of theories and proved each one wrong.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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I was amped about this thread and wanted to s & f it immediately, but the bubble burst after the youtube video in the OP... Basically there is no point in these theories about what happened but antagonizing people isn't the way to go either.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by GenRadek
And then to boot, you go on about Operation Northwoods, which means absolutely NOTHING in context to 9/11. Nothing! Zero!

Do you need any more caps or exclamation points? LOL -- I seem to have struck a nerve. Since when is a 1960s false flag terrorist plan to hijack planes and commit murder and mayhem in order to frame another country (Cuba) not related to 9/11? That's exactly what happened, except this time the victims were Iraq and Afghanistan (the ultimate victim is America and it's citizens.) Not that I expect someone like you to care.


Originally posted by GenRadek
And yet you push it forward as if this idea is the smoking gun for 9/11, because of of what some Cold War era whiz kid hired to come up with creative ways of fighting the Commies, came up with for their intelligence agency to prepare for war.

Those "Cold War era whiz kids" were the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The "whiz kids" you're thinking of were LBJ's CFR foreign policy cabal who advised him to continue the Vietnam war after ANOTHER false flag deception (Gulf of Tonkin) was used to justify the last illegal and immoral quagmire.





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