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Is this 9/11 nonsense going to ever go away? ZERO eveidence but still pushing on!

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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 09:55 PM
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"This 9/11 nonsense" will go on for as long as there are people who believe in the REAL laws of physics, and that PHYSICALLY unprecedented events didn't happen on only ONE day in all of history. All TRULY scientific conclusions require duplication, repeatability. For one, it's not PHYSICALLY possible for a mere (very smoky, sufficiently oxygen-starved) jet fuel fire to weaken the ENTIRE core steel of a skyscraper and cause its COMPLETE demolition, pulverization... I could go on and on, but I'm secure enough to not have to argue with the blindly faithful of the (lying-ass government) OS, who can use NOTHING else but their own blustery rhetoric and emotion - meaning no HARD science. It's always the same s#*t, different day on this site.




posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by googolplex
reply to post by skeptic_al
 
What about buiding 7 it would not of went straight down, all of the lower supports would not have failed at the same instance, the building would have fallen to one side, this has been proven.
Building 7 was controlled demolition, it was to perfect, no fire could do this.



7 might of had a Helping Hand, doesn't mean explosives, and even if explosives were used, still can't see the problem with that, the Building was Evacuated Long before. And it was hit with very heavy debris falling probably more than 100MPH. As for being Perfect, well All I have to say there is: Even Nature creates things that appear to be Perfect Shapes, it Happens.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Dean Goldberry
"This 9/11 nonsense" will go on for as long as there are people who believe in the REAL laws of physics, and that PHYSICALLY unprecedented events didn't happen on only ONE day in all of history. All TRULY scientific conclusions require duplication, repeatability. For one, it's not PHYSICALLY possible for a mere (very smoky, sufficiently oxygen-starved) jet fuel fire to weaken the ENTIRE core steel of a skyscraper and cause its COMPLETE demolition, pulverization... I could go on and on, but I'm secure enough to not have to argue with the blindly faithful of the (lying-ass government) OS, who can use NOTHING else but their own blustery rhetoric and emotion - meaning no HARD science. It's always the same s#*t, different day on this site.


See, the truthers want Hard science yet it alludes them in their work. Why is that 89% of the planet believe in a god of one form or another without actually ever seeing one, and the OS is the bible which man changes to suit its purpose. Old Testament to New testament. But the possibility of 3 buildings failing down when HUGE FUEL FILLED PLANES fly into it is just too unbelievable. But its ok to believe in Alien Hybrids, Time Travel and the fact that more science proves the Big Bang created the Universe 14 billions years ago and god did not do it in 7 days. YOu all believe what you want to believe. And change things to suit your current needs.

The TITANIC was said to be unsinkable. It hit some ice and sank on its first voyage. things happen.

Until something of this magnitude happens it is impossible to calculate the probability. That 3 buildings fell on the same day crap is not sciences its just happened so its obvious it can happen.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 10:17 PM
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Lucy, don't you love me anymore? Why won't you respond to my Osama bin Laden/al CIAduh post? Is it because you finally realized that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are fraudulent and you're too embarrassed to reply?


Originally posted by L1U2C3I4F5E6R
ON the topic of Osama Bin Laden. HE was used as the figure head of this Al Quieda group for years. JUst because he is not wanted by the FBI (we all know their track record on getting the right person) and just because he may of not committed these attack does not mean that Islamic Extremists did not do it.

Well Lucy, that's quite the admission -- especially since capturing or killing Osama bin Laden has been the U.S. government's entire justification to launch two illegal and immoral trillion-dollar wars that have killed over a million innocent civilians.

What if I told you that there's credible evidence (including statements by former British Foreign Minister Robin Cook, foreign intelligence agencies, internal CIA documents and agents) that your "Al Quieda" bogeyman doesn't exist? Who would you blame then? I'm sure you'd find someone. How about those 9/11 conspiracy nuts?

And while you're at it, please tell us more about Exponent Failure Analysis Associates, the company you know and admire so much.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 10:33 PM
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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 10:39 PM
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The OP says nothing about the 9-11 Commision Report findings to support her statements that Terrorists did the crime...how odd to leave that out.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 10:39 PM
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Sir...ackhem...OP.....

"There is no possible way to know what really happened by watching some silly footage of the towers collapsing. There are too many variables to consider." - OP

The act of observation is the most important rule of the scientific theory. Observing the same thing over and over again and cross examining it to what it known is the fastest route to a truth. We use it in space to SEE why fish may or may not reproduce in zero-g, we use it in geography to CALCULATE the human timeline on this planet, and we use it for a multitude of other quite important things...like your Astronomy (that of which your entire life is surrounded, comprehended, and scaled) You sir, are in DENIAL of plain fact. Compare the towers...all 3...roofs, in an uninterrupted free-fall, to Earth in seconds...the MOST similar model to this occurring that anyone has to compare to (since these are suppose to be the first 3 buildings to collapse in world history due to fire), are in fact, controlled demolitions.

That being said, without further speculation, you sir, NOW have THE job of the century, (all the while your group of blind cronies dwindles in numbers with every passing anniversary of that Day of Treason) to PROVE without a doubt that the towers fell naturally due to the presence of spilt kerosene and a few bend outer members.

To everyone who has opened their eyes; Isn't amazing what a bit of fireworks will do to the uneducated mind when those fireworks are disguising physics.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 10:48 PM
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Agent0,

Could you answer me a question? If a serving member of the US Military is with the 9/11 truth movement, which is really accsing the US gov of complicity in the attacks how can they serve the US military fairly? You would therefor be just as complicit in all illegal actions you undertake from the US mil and Gov.

And, If the US gov was involved surely they would stop any serving Military members from being part of such a farce as it compromises ethics and questions loyalty. And why have they not stopped all pensions or threatened to do something similar to all past US forces members as a way of deterring such treasonous actions.

I believe it is because they have nothing to fear in terms of involvement but as I have said they are hiding incompetence and neglectfulness. They are hiding shame.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 11:00 PM
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Its the truthers that must prove something. Not me. I am not questioning nor backing the OS. I am backing the fact that the US gov did not kill 3000 people. You need to prove your BS stories as you are the ones who are trying to garner followers and an investigation. Both of which are near impossible tasks for the truthers to accomplish.

I have nothing to prove. I asked "when will this nonsense stop?" I have yet to be presented with anything new to the cause of upsetting more people. Everything on this site has been read, debated and poked with a stick. And what have you all got from it? NOTHING. no investigation, no more support.

You have yet to find the thing or piece of evidence that is considered HARD evidence. You have some nice theories and some loose and very biased figures. You have bits of circumstantial evidence that every damn case in the world has. Its not admissible in the Supreme Court because it has been plucked out of the air and fitted to the theories at hand. You lot have changed your minds on everything when your proof has been shot down. Each time coming back with a slightly more well presented story. But each time its still the same thing repackaged. At the end of the day fiction will sell only so many copies. You can't polish a tu**.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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According to the information Plube gave us on page 22,

WTC 1 fell in 6120 seconds and tower 2 fell in 3360 seconds.

That is nowhere near free fall speed.


edit on 21-9-2010 by waypastvne because: Because I wanted to



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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Agent0 wasn't posting to you...only Americans who served in an officer position.
Have you served?
Ah...Lucifer...



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by Granite
reply to post by L1U2C3I4F5E6R
 


Agent0 wasn't posting to you...only Americans who served in an officer position.
Have you served?
Ah...Lucifer...


Are you blind? He WAS posting directly to ME. go back and check. Have I served in the US military? NO. Im not American and after Secondary School (High School in North America) I went to University. I was not poached to die straight out of high school.

I only assumed you were speaking about the Military when you asked have I served. Not asking about anything else.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 11:42 PM
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9/11 MADNESS
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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by Agent0


U.S. Military Officers for 9/11 Truth
www.mo911truth.org...



The third name on that list Albert "Bert" N. Stubblebine III.

The truth movement needs more members like this.

Stubblebine Rules !!!

en.wikipedia.org...



A proponent of psychic warfare, Stubblebine was involved in a U.S. military project to create "a breed of 'super soldier'" who would "have the ability to become invisible at will and to walk through walls". He encouraged visitors to his office to walk through walls and has said that the ability to do so is a great idea, but that it would also be a disappointment, similar to levitation.[3] He features prominently in Jon Ronson's book The Men Who Stare at Goats,[6] where he is described as firmly believing that he himself can walk through walls.[7]



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by waypastvne
That is nowhere near free fall speed.


In fact it is much easier to prove WTC1 & 2 did not fall at freefall speed - simply watch the videos of them collapsing, you can see the debris coming off the buildings is falling at free fall speed, so obviously the buildings are falling slower - but that is apparently too difficult for truthers to see!



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 12:07 AM
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OOOoooo

I got guys that are for the OS believers too!!

en.wikipedia.org...

LOL !!!



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 12:12 AM
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why should we belive anything this government say about 9/11 or of anything else we all have to question everything we are told by the media or the government plus the 9/11 truth movement has over 1200 Architects And Engineers behind them



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by Granite
Not an American...but demanding we take you seriously as legit 911 OP?
Disgusting...and all who S&F you...tird-world trash!



For a start I do not come from a third world country, and therefor its not trash. And seeming that 9/11 has impacted the whole fo the free world I have every right to question and re-question the truth movement.

ON this site calling me a tird (spelt wrong) is not allowed according to the T"s and C's of ATS. The rules are in place for a reason and its because there is always a suspicous person who resorts to nasty name calling. I hope the MODS see it and you are dealt with appropriately. You are obviously the type of American who lets the nation down.

The truth movement has a right to voice its concerns and with that right comes the responsibility to accept cross examination on all and every piece of so called evidence and proposals. These questions and hole poking need to stand up to someone like me and others if it even stands the chance survive a public hanging by someone trained to tear stories to bits. From the character of the people representing the movement (avery and pals) to the REAL life experiments they performed to reenact the twin towers destruction (no reenactment of the same exact situation has been performed with all the same variables in place) They will be shouted at, led, words twisted, stories rearranged, people pressured and all the harsh realities of a professional defense team working with the full finacial backing of the US government.

So far the people on here have floundered and tripped over each other while still not convincing any new people who were not already on board.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 12:22 AM
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For some reason the original post makes me frustrated and angry.

The evidence is the Official Story released by the Government. That's the evidence that we are being lied to, it's full of holes. That's the proof that we need to rise against Government. Every once in awhile, the people will always need to restore law and justice and have a cleanse of Government, It's history man..people have just forgotten that they own this country, not some imaginary thing called The Government. If we want answers, then we need to remember that the only gatekeepers is ourselves.



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 01:02 AM
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Your rights in your country are all you have...period.
This entire thread is pure dis-information and the mods will surely agree to move it there.




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