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Chief exorcist: Devil operates at the highest levels of the Vatican

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posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 09:22 PM
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That part was really tough for me to read because of what they did to innocent children. It's quite sickening and again reminds me of this passage from Revelations 18,

1After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor. 2With a mighty voice he shouted:

“Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
She has become a home for demons
and a haunt for every evil spirit,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.
3For all the nations have drunk
the maddening wine of her adulteries.


The only part about this that doesn't fit the Vatican perhaps, is the reference to her trading with the nations, though I understand that a tremendous amount of wealth has been stockpiled there.

As for those who say that the Pope can not be the antichrist, you are absolutely correct. The catholic church can not be the beast kingdom, and the Pope is not the antichrist don't be worried. Rather the catholic church is the whore of Babylon; get your terminology straight. lol.




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posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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She is the one chosen by God to carry the Divine One. Pretty important task, wouldn't you say? And no, Catholics do not believe she is divine. She is mortal. Holy, but mortal.


Hey the good earth,thanks for the reply.Also thank you for making a good point,when its put the way you put it!!
Who can disagree



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 09:25 AM
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That part was really tough for me to read because of what they did to innocent children. It's quite sickening and again reminds me of this passage from Revelations 18,

I know how it feels my friend,its just sickening to think what abuses happened to them children and probably is still happening.



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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I belief that many pedophiles and people with other sinfull cravings tried to find protection and strenght by becomming a priest. But the temptation and easy acces to unaware, naive and innocent children made their choice the wrong one.

If you belief in God you should know that there is a war going on. satan is trying to corrupt the ones closest and dearest to God. These people are under attack...by all sorts of temptation and make them sinners in the eyes of God.

Do not understand me wrong....I am not trying to defent pedophiles...but in the eyes of a believer it is a way to explain the pedo scandal in the church.



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 10:35 AM
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‎"Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring—those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus." Rev 12:17.

"For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time." Revelation 12:12


I believe wholeheartedly that the prophecied 100 years of Satan's heightened influence over Earth began in 1921.

I believe the Church has been attacked mightily by Satan, the priests have been led down dark pathways to hurt children, to lead others away from the faith, to reject Christ... it is all biblically prophecied. And Christ himself said that those who hurt children, who lead others away from Him will suffer the worst fates.

2 Pet 2:1-3 "But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves
Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping."


I think that Medjugorje will be fulfilled in 2021, and the warnings will begin to unfurl at that time, as the number 40 seems to be the prophetic amount of time that God allows for people on Earth to be schooled, a time of probation, to wander and be taught... and the Blessed Virgin Mary began appearing there in June 1981.

Moses and the Israelites were in the desert for 40 years before coming to the promised land;
40 is the number of years of Israel from the crucifixion to the destruction of Jerusalem;
40 years Moses waited in Egypt and also Moses waited in Midian;
40 years of prosperity under David;...

Also there are 40 day time frames of great importance:
Jesus fasted for 40 days in the desert;
Jesus was seen 40 days after His resurrection until His Ascension
Moses was on Mount Tabor with God for 40 days receiving the Ten Commandments/ communing with God
Moses was on the Mount 40 days after the sin of the golden calf
Ezekiel lie on his right side 40 days to symbolize the 40 years of Judah's transgressions.

The Ten Warnings of Medjugorje are of great importance. The Blessed Virgin Mary has been appearing every single day there since June 24, 1981. Now, I realize how much the Catholic Church is hated.

However, these apparitions have never been condemned, in fact the Vatican has just now launched an official commission to finally investigate these apparitions, even though they are still ongoing.
This is unprecedented in Church history. They never investigate an apparition until it is over. Ever. However, the longevity of these apparitions is unprecendented as well.

And the visionaries (6 of them, all teenagers, save one, who was ten when they began) have been subjected to repeated scientific testing of all kinds which they have passed with flying colors each and every time.
There is no scientific or psychological explanation for these apparitions and the messages.

Many of the scientists conducting the experiments on the visionaries were confirmed atheists and skeptics when they arrived to do the tests, and inexplicably, many converted after meeting the visionaries and conducting the tests.

Why isn't this appearing on the world news? If aliens appeared every single day for decades, wouldn't it be reported?
Pope John Paul II was very supportive of Medjugorje, though he was not able to release any official statements on it. He met many times with the visionaries.

The Ten Warnings will be fulfilled before the visionaries die. They are all in their mid-forties.
The Blessed Virgin has told them this will be Her last appearances on earth in our times.

Three of the visionaries have received all ten of the warnings, and three have received nine.
When all of them have received all ten of the warnings (chastisements), then The Blessed Virgin will cease to appear. The first three warnings will be given in short order.

Ten days before each of the warnings, one of the visionaries will advise the priest she chose for this task (Father Petar Ljubicic), who will then pray and fast with her for seven days.

Then, three days before the warning is to take place, Fr. Petar will announce to the world what, where, and when the warning is to take place. Fr. Petar has no choice, and must reveal each warning.

The visionary's testimony will be a confirmation of the validity of the apparitions and a further incentive for the conversion of the world.
After the first warning, the others will follow within a rather brief period of time.

After the three warnings, the permanent/indestructible/ visible sign will be left on the mountain where Our Lady first appeared in Medjugorje. This sign will be seen by all, believer, unbeliever, athiest, Catholic, Baptist, Muslim, et al.
Those who are still alive will have little time for conversion.








edit on 23-9-2010 by thegoodearth because: more info/ spelling



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 12:02 PM
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he satan lil beat ch
we won
how u like me now??



posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 04:29 PM
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wrong top



edit on 23-9-2010 by icecold7 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 06:54 AM
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en.wikipedia.org...

sryy for off top
anybody cares to make thread about this??



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 07:02 AM
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I think the Vatican exocist is simply stating the obvious.

The Poop and his henchmen are Satanists, and very high up in the Jesuit/Zionist/Communist cabal.

Perhaps it's one of their sick little jokes that the exorcist actually tells the full truth, but the people don't see it.



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
reply to post by johnny c
 


That part was really tough for me to read because of what they did to innocent children. It's quite sickening and again reminds me of this passage from Revelations 18,

1After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor. 2With a mighty voice he shouted:

“Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
She has become a home for demons
and a haunt for every evil spirit,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.
3For all the nations have drunk


The only part about this that doesn't fit the Vatican perhaps, is the reference to her trading with the nations, though I understand that a tremendous amount of wealth has been stockpiled there.

As for those who say that the Pope can not be the antichrist, you are absolutely correct. The catholic church can not be the beast kingdom, and the Pope is not the antichrist don't be worried. Rather the catholic church is the whore of Babylon; get your terminology straight. lol.
the maddening wine of her adulteries.



The Vatican is one of the big financial players in the world. It definitely does trade with the nations.





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posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 07:10 AM
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Sexual abuse of children is part of the occult ritual.

So, they are completely lying about perceiving this as a crime. It's all part of occult initiation and control, but they need to keep feeding the lie to the public that the are shocked and doing something about it.

In fact, if the Poop really wanted to clamp down on this he could do that pretty easily. Instead he condones through inaction, and behind closed doors he is 100% in support.



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 07:14 AM
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Pope John Paul II was very supportive of Medjugorje, though he was not able to release any official statements on it. He met many times with the visionaries


Why wasn't he able to release any official statements, who stopped him?



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 07:30 AM
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The Pope has said that he didn't want to take legal action against one of the paedophile priests because he wanted to protect the Church.

If you think about this, it's a complete nonsense.....except if you acknowledlge that he, like all the other Jesuit/Zionist/ communist mafia, speaks double speak. He speaks in a false tongue.

So - when he speaks of God, he is referring to his God, who is Lucifer. When he speaks of not cracking down on the paedphile priests because he wants to protect the Church, he is referring to the Church of Lucifer. Paedophilia is an essential practice for Satanists/Luciferians.

It's exactly the same deceitful language games played by the Jesuit/Zionist/Communist politicians, where
'national security' - means 'national destruction, and preservation of the Mafia agenda'.


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posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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The Poop and his henchmen are Satanists, and very high up in the Jesuit/Zionist/Communist cabal
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It certainly looks that way my friend and a disgrace it is.



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by wcitizen
The Pope has said that he didn't want to take legal action against one of the paedophile priests because he wanted to protect the Church.

If you think about this, it's a complete nonsense.....except if you acknowledlge that he, like all the other Jesuit/Zionist/ communist mafia, speaks double speak. He speaks in a false tongue.

So - when he speaks of God, he is referring to his God, who is Lucifer. When he speaks of not cracking down on the paedphile priests because he wants to protect the Church, he is referring to the Church of Lucifer. Paedophilia is an essential practice for Satanists/Luciferians.

It's exactly the same deceitful language games played by the Jesuit/Zionist/Communist politicians, where
'national security' - means 'national destruction, and preservation of the Mafia agenda'.


edit on 24-9-2010 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)


Why do you think in your opinion they do this to chidren? Is it so people leave the church and want nothing to do with it? or is this essential to their beliefs? how and why they would do a thing i could never figure out!
I listened to the svali interveiw and could never see the point,control? multiple split personalities?
what do you think wcitizen,thanks for the reply buddy



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by icecold7
en.wikipedia.org...

sryy for off top
anybody cares to make thread about this??

Thanks man ,food for tought alright



posted on Sep, 24 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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I'd actually like to find out more about this. How does the Vatican interact financially with the nations of the world? How does she effect trade policies etc. If it can be shown that she's a big player, then it lends a lot more weight to this prophecy. There are very specific references to the whore of Babylon throughout Revelations, that we may see playing out before our very eyes.

Any links would be welcome.



posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 08:35 AM
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wcitizen, I always like your posts, I think they are well written and intelligent.

However, in this regard, I am really saddened at how you regard the Catholic church. It seems to me that you have been swayed mightly either by the MSM or some other religious faith who is very anti-Catholic and completely uninformed at the true workings and true faith of the Pope and the Catholic religion in general.

I read so much anti-Catholic bashing on here it is incredible. Truly it is. And the Catholics who are here put up with it mostly, because we have all our lives and we know it won't go away, the MSM encourages it too (unlike Jew bashing or Islam bashing... whenever some here starts an anti-Jew or anti-Islam thread, people come out en force to defend, even when they aren't Jewish or Muslim).

Contrary to the MSM reports, the popular Protestant spoonfed belief, the actual rate of pedophilia in priests is less than 1/3 of 1% or 0.3% of the total amount of priests.
Less than the occurance in the population of married men, unmarried men, et al.

This number was researched and found after an exhaustive study done my a NON- Catholic scholar and released just this past summer in his book, Priests and Pedophilia .

We don't hear much about this statistic.

The 10% bandied about is actually the statistic found by Hofstra University of Secular school kid abuse in the SECULAR schools. (non- catholic teacher abuse)

As far as Satanism being the true faith of Catholics... I am at a loss. Have you ever read the Catechism of the Catholic Church? It contains the entire belief system of the Catholic Church and is available at any bookstore.
I recommend reading it, as well as reading the various encyclicals by especially Pope John Paul II, to include the Gospel of Life, the Theology of the Body, and Crossing the Threshold of Hope.
If you can find Satanic undertones in those texts after reading them, and not a sypnosis on some website, but actually checking them out of a library and reading them, let me know.

I would never comment directly on another's religion based on what I read in the MSM or heard from another actively NOT of that faith. Period. If I hadn't read the books underpinning their belief system, and if I especially had not been to one of their worship services, it would be the worst form of hypocrisy. How dare I presume to know, based on Internet or biased knowledge?

Father Gabriele Amorth has written two very good books I own. He is the chief exorcist for the Vatican. An Exorcist Tells His Stories and An Exorcist:More Stories. They are very non sensationalist, informative, and tell the truth of what an appointed exorcist actually does, not what the media, Hollywood, and secular press wants one to think. He also believes that the "smoke of Satan" entered the Vatican in the 60's. It is a sad fact. However, look at all the religions around you. Can one honestly say that no pedophilia happens in any of those?

The media attacks the Catholic faith. Because it is the oldest one that has a home base and the most money at its home base. Well, it has been in existence for over 1900 years. Any institution that has been in existence for over 1900 years will have money. Sorry, it's a fact. And anyone who thinks that priests and nuns live lavish lifestyles ought to tour a convent or monastery sometime and meet these pedophiles and witches to see how terrible and abusive they are, how badly and sinfully they lead their lives, and how lavishly they spend their stipends.


Most poor families, especially in rural areas, would not be eating or clothed properly if not for the convent Sisters and monasteries nearby.

Satanic?



posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by wcitizen
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Pope John Paul II was very supportive of Medjugorje, though he was not able to release any official statements on it. He met many times with the visionaries


Why wasn't he able to release any official statements, who stopped him?



Again, this lends to a misunderstanding of how the Church operates.
The Church does not do official investigations into apparitions until they are over. Medjugorje was then (and still is going on). Therefore, the Pope was not about to issue any official statements on an apparition that was not investigated thoroughly by the Church. That would be against his humility himself. Contrary to popular belief, the Pope is not a dictator in the Church, he is bound by the same rules. And he is a humble man. Pride is a capital sin, the exact opposite of pride is humility.
He encouraged pilgrimiges to Medjugorje and also was very devoted to the Blessed Virgin. That was all he could do outside of any official statements.


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posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 09:05 AM
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Hey thegoodearth ,thanks a lot for your reply.I never knew about the case you talk about and im going to research it.I sometimes wonder where have i being

I knew the virgin Mary appered at knock in Ireland.
I always find it very interesting.thanks




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