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Chief exorcist: Devil operates at the highest levels of the Vatican

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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:17 AM
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Yes, I do agree. I have not heard of "charging people" for instruction in the Church. We do have to pay for Catholic schools because they do have the same expenses that the regular school systems have. I have been a teacher in the church formation system. The RICA program helps adults learn about the Church before they make a commitment to join. Children still attend Catholic formation during their school years. Neither of these programs have monetary charges attached to them.


Paying for schools is fine and i would never have a problem for that in a million years.It was all stuff i knew already they had me pay to learn all over again,I agree the teachings are not the right teachings any more,its a disgrace and its from the top [vatican] all the way down.
If you have time check this out
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thanks Mahree
John




posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by BillMe
The vatican is evil.
Look at the billions they spend feeding the poor, clothing the destitute. Clearly evil.
Look at the fact that they had the first AIDS hospices, again evil.
They go into the worst areas in the world and build schools and teach poor children. How awful of them.
Clearly the Church is evil.



or is it?


The tobacco companies are saints .
Look at the billions they spend on cancer treatments reaserch.
Look at the fact that they donate substantial amounts of money to universities and educational centers around the world.

The US army are saints
They go to underdeveloped countries to promote democracy.
They help the underdeveloped people of those countries and kill the bad elements.
They help in rebuilding the underdeveloped countries after armed conflicts occur .
They set up hospitals where people can get treatment after they have been shot or blown up.

Tabacco companies and the US army are saints .

Or are they ?



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:30 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
See third secret of Fatima. The Church repressed it for a reason. Virgin Mary warned the devil will enter "my Son's church"


More like run it from the get-go.
The corruption is deeply rooted, it's not new.

Why all the focus on the Virgin Mary/Stella Maris/Isis anyway?

I don't get why people pray to her, much less the former Popes.

- Lee



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:34 AM
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Hey Thrill,thanks for the reply and your input buddy




Tabacco companies and the US army are saints,or are they? .

thatsthe thing ,you can never know!!
keep it thrill like bun b



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:43 AM
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The devil doesn't bother going after people who are already his. He especially goes after the holiest people and those who are in positions to keep people away from him. OF COURSE he's going to be roaming around the Vatican. It's the center of authority for the religion of 1 billion people on this planet. I'm sure he's sniffing around in ALL the major houses of worship and in the religions that promote peace (Buddhist monasteries, etc). He can't destroy them without trying to enter them ... ya' know?

** I refer to the devil as 'he' to make it easier to read. The devil is pure spirit and is neither male nor female.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by lee anoma
I don't get why people pray to her,

Catholic belief is that everyone is supposed to pray for everyone else. Catholics are to ask others to pray for them; to interceed for them to Jesus. Catholics also believe that those who have 'died' and were in good standing with God, are in the presence of God awaiting the physical ressurection of their bodies. (read when Jesus was crucified - he promised the 'good thief' that he'd be with him in paradise that day). THEREFORE .... Catholics ask Mary to interceed with her Son for them. See? She's standing right there next to Christ so she would take the requests that people here are asking and she's put them in His hands. The unwritten thought is that Christ would be more likely to grant a request coming from His mother than coming directly from an average person.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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I dont think hes saying the devils is someone, more so its the mindset, its the mentality floating about within the vatican.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:00 AM
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I did read your "link". There does seem to be truth and error mixed up in the "chapter". After the council many parishes from all over the world started interpreting, by their own ideas, what the council had stated. The Catholic Church is huge and I do agree that many of the liberal ideas did flourish under this lapse after the council.

I suggest you look at the actual documents from the council. This was the reason behind the new revised edition of the "Catechism of the Catholic Church". Now what the Church actually teaches can be found by anyone.

It is a good thing that the Church now teaches us to find and agree on the precepts in common between different religions. This does not mean that the Catholic Church must change its beliefs to conform to other denominations or religions.

My beliefs may also not reflect all of the Church's teaching. I do continue to study, but, I am only a human woman and mistakes can be made by me also.

Time to get on with my day.....Thank you for sharing your ideas.

Mahree



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:25 AM
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Is it just me or does pope benedict have the most evil looking eyes?
Just too creepy! Also ex illuminati claim satanic rituals are performed
within the very bowls of the vatican to this very day. Further more if
one wants to become a true satanic preist you first must become a
catholic preist and then convert.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:46 AM
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I dont think hes saying the devils is someone, more so its the mindset, its the mentality floating about within the vatican.

I agree with you all the way buddy! They are probably talking about some secert society that has enter the vatican in secert.thanks for the reply



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:48 AM
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Thanks Mahree,have a great day,thanks for your toughts,the pope just made me mad when he let certain symbols be painted on his head. I was just like wow! lol



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:49 AM
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sia
witch read c i a
has a clip of a seemingly out of control girl
dancing on the flag of northt korea
i new it was well,, u know
i thougt u was accurate yet i was suspicious
but in thevid she pukes
i wonder what?
so yes i think yes
also watch end of days
with arnie
also a nwo member

there are things in the world u could never imagine



edit on 21-9-2010 by icecold7 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:55 AM
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Thanks for the reply Lee,i have often wondered the same and i think it is just all religions are stolen off other ones.e.g. Eygptian trinity and the christian trinity ,im no expert though buddy.nice one for a good point!!



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:59 AM
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Hey Icecold ,thanks for your reply. Great film that end of days!! I also have seen a lot of brotherhood of the snake
at work



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 09:03 AM
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Hey flyers fan ,hows it going buddy,thanks for your reply



The devil doesn't bother going after people who are already his. He especially goes after the holiest people and those who are in positions to keep people away from him. OF COURSE he's going to be roaming around the Vatican. It's the center of authority for the religion of 1 billion people on this planet. I'm sure he's sniffing around in ALL the major houses of worship and in the religions that promote peace (Buddhist monasteries, etc). He can't destroy them without trying to enter them ... ya' know?


sounds about right to me,try corrupt from the top down,the russian mafia have a saying "fish rot from the head down" meaning if the top is corrupt sooner or later the rest will follow!!
and the good guys wont know!!



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by lee anoma


Why all the focus on the Virgin Mary/Stella Maris/Isis anyway?

I don't get why people pray to her, much less the former Popes.

- Lee



We ask The Blessed Virgin Mary in prayer to intercede for us. She is a great intercessor along with the saints.

Why all the focus on her?

She is the one chosen by God to carry the Divine One. Pretty important task, wouldn't you say? And no, Catholics do not believe she is divine. She is mortal. Holy, but mortal.
Consider this. Jesus lived 33 years. He gave 30 of those years to His mother. He gave 3 of those years to the public. The Blessed Virgin Mary was very highly regarded and deeply, deeply loved by Jesus as well. She traveled with Jesus and His Apostles. She was with His Apostles when the Holy Spirit descended upon them in the upper room on Pentecost. The last public address was Him giving His mother's care over to us. Any Christian who does not regard Mary with reverence. love and respect is disregarding Jesus' last wishes.
Muslims, too, hold Mary in very high regard.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:24 PM
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A violent and terrifying persecution against the Church is predicted by Fatima and the undeniably connected La Salette Prophecies.

Whether the prophecies are divine or not is another matter.

The persecution would probably send the Church underground and out of Vatican city.

With the Pope/etc driven out of Vatican City, a resulting vacancy allows for the Bablylon whore to walk right through the physical gates and take it's seat to provide the world a new age form to the Church. A true Pope-messenger or a truly converted Pope would come from the purified underground Church.

The full version of the La Salette prophecy(Melanie Calvat) also begins(before getting to the religious persecution and chastisement parts) by saying the sins of the priests cry out for vengeance and vengeance will be at their doors.("ministers of my Son, the priests, by their bad life, by their irreverences and their impiety in celebrating the holy mysteries, by love of money, love of honor and of pleasures, the priests have become cesspools of impurity. Yes, the priests are asking for vengeance, and vengeance is suspended over their heads. Woe to the priests and to persons consecrated to God, who by their infidelities and their bad life are crucifying anew my Son! The sins of persons consecrated to God cry out towards Heaven and call for vengeance, and see how vengeance is at their doors,")



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 01:47 PM
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Thanks very much or the great reply phantofire!!




With the Pope/etc driven out of Vatican City, a resulting vacancy allows for the Bablylon whore to walk right through the physical gates and take it's seat to provide the world a new age form to the Church. A true Pope-messenger or a truly converted Pope would come from the purified underground Church.

I agree with you buddy,the church would go underground if that happened.
I think the church is under the new age converision at the moment with all this alien talk.
Have you heard father Ledwith? talking about the ufos?
its under the ats mix show interveiws in this thread link
link forufo radio while on ats...
thanks



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 03:25 PM
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I must say that I am surprised with all the prophesy and predictions posted constantly on this site that not much is ever said about the apparitions at Garabandal, Fatima, Medjugorje, and San Damiano, or the writings of Maria Simma.
Perhaps because they are all Catholic/ Marian in nature. I don't know. It seems that anything like that gets flamed so badly that perhaps it wouldn't be worth the effort of putting together a thread.
It would seem to be more credible to read about those than some random Timewave Zero nonsense or anyone else who had some dream or such that gets so many flags and taken seriously.
The illumination of the Holy Spirit, the redistribution of wealth, the 10 warnings, and the indestructible signs are things that give me pause. When these things happen, I wonder how many people will still be unbelievers.


edit on 21-9-2010 by thegoodearth because: grammatical



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 03:44 PM
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Hey the good earth,thanks for the reply buddy

[q]It would seem to be more credible to read about those than some random Timewave Zero nonsense or anyone else who had some dream or such that gets so many flags and taken seriously[/q]

All day every day my friend!!, is there anything more interesting??



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