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BREAKING: Iran detains seven U.S. troops trying to enter country

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posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 08:16 AM
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Iran has essentially, no they have, declared war. Could you imagine if someone held a group of soldiers against there will here in the USA? Swat would be in and the spooks would be sulking around the corner!

It is TIME, to kick some butt and stop p***** footing around with these thugs! Too bad we have spaghetti noodle spine in the White House!

"But don't you know he's not the one in control maaaaaan. It's the NWO maaaaaaannnn..." Put down your bong hippie. He has a lot of pull, although not being the top, he casts his vote at the table of corruption.



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posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 08:21 AM
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Whoa man, without further details you can not sit here and justify your position. At this point, Iran captured 7 men who they believe to be American troops, that were operating IN IRANIAN TERRITORY. I've served and operated EXTREMELY close to this region, but I support Iran's RIGHT to protect its border and to detain illegal entrants.

Can YOU imagine what would happen if 7 Iranian commandos were found operating or patrolling in, say, Kentucky? The fact no shots were fired is a sure sign that Iran is actually acting in humanitarian fashion with regards to these men.

It doesn't matter your intentions, the U.S. military is NOT the world police. We can not operate with impunity anywhere and anytime we please, resorting to childish comments like "let's go to war since they caught us doing something wrong and illegal." I know you are a much more intelligent, reasonable and educated man than that.

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posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 08:26 AM
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Amen brother.

If any other military force was patrolling in the States...

Instant war with that country. They captured the soldiers like any country would do, and are holding them. Everyone should stop speculating and wait for more information to come out.


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posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by NeverApologize

You did not just compare us to Iran!?!




I sure did.

Let me clarify: Iran has 10 times more integrity than we have had for most of the last century. They don't run around committing false flag operations, kidnapping foreign citizens in foreign lands and taking them to secret prisons for torture and sometimes murder. As far as I can tell, they are not involved in organized international narcotics trafficking either.

Please note that I did not address ethnocentric issues like their fubar treatment of women or their whacked-out sharia 'law'.



Originally posted by NeverApologize


Yeah. We spread propaganda but they are just as good at it! At least we don't call for the annihilation of a government or country! We call for removal of dictators and murderers! Wake up!

This smells of a counter agent from over in Iran! Hello over there! I'm from this side of the pond to spread ghanda!



Somebody needs to wake up and smell the guano. The US has consistently overthrown democratically-elected governments in Central and South America and installed dictatorships. And they will not bat an eye while telling you the details (US official records).

Check the facts -- Iran is *not* an aggressor nation. They were, however, an early victim of the CIA. The 1953, the democratically elected government of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh was overthrown by the CIA and MI6.

If you really think of yourself as being free, you need to break the chains of US propaganda.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by Shark VA84
 


You're right, of course. These men are military, and this is much different than the hikers. But everytime I think of that exorbitant fine they placed, it kinda irks me.

But certainly, your points are the more valid in this scenario.


It's not a fine it's bail, providing the accused attends court at the appropriate time the cash will be returned, no cash cow here for oil and gas exporting Iran.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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But to call people terrorist for following orders is a bit over the line.


The alledged 9/11 hijacker were supposedly just following Bin Laden's orders, but America still called them terrorist.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 11:01 AM
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We'll have to see what develops, but as of right now this just reeks of more Iranian hijinks to make the U.S. look bad- no one thinks this "happening" on the same day the Iranian President is going to the U.S. is a little too "coincidental"?



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 11:20 AM
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News reports say it didn't happen. If, and I say if it did......keep the Iranian president here, in prison until they are released....no if's no ands no but's....screw diplomatic immunity. Keep him a week, if nada, attack the little sobs and execute him on live t.v.. It's time all of this bs ended and we may as well be the ones to do it. This time, don't send in ground troops....let the AF do it's job, yup bomb them back further into the stone age. I don't care about civilian casualties, they'd occur anyway.........it's time to end all of this nonsense so the world can progress further. To those on here that are Americans that are basically salivating over the\is and are happy about it, feel free to go there and act as human shields...just let us know where so we have the correct coordinates for the first wave.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by fooks
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well we should hold him till the "troops" are freed along with anyone else.

right?



why? He was invited to your country, last I checked, they never invited these American Solidares to ther country! Therefor, why do you want to hold him?

PS, you do know he is contolled by the same people as Obama?


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posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by adifferentbreed
News reports say it didn't happen. If, and I say if it did......keep the Iranian president here, in prison until they are released....no if's no ands no but's....screw diplomatic immunity. Keep him a week, if nada, attack the little sobs and execute him on live t.v.. It's time all of this bs ended and we may as well be the ones to do it. This time, don't send in ground troops....let the AF do it's job, yup bomb them back further into the stone age. I don't care about civilian casualties, they'd occur anyway.........it's time to end all of this nonsense so the world can progress further. To those on here that are Americans that are basically salivating over the\is and are happy about it, feel free to go there and act as human shields...just let us know where so we have the correct coordinates for the first wave.


that is a sad statement you have made, and moreover a sad reflection of America and Americans.

Second Line.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by NeverApologize
Iran has essentially, no they have, declared war. Could you imagine if someone held a group of soldiers against there will here in the USA? Swat would be in and the spooks would be sulking around the corner!

It is TIME, to kick some butt and stop p***** footing around with these thugs! Too bad we have spaghetti noodle spine in the White House!

"But don't you know he's not the one in control maaaaaan. It's the NWO maaaaaaannnn..." Put down your bong hippie. He has a lot of pull, although not being the top, he casts his vote at the table of corruption.


Please tell me how a country that has been "invaded" by American troops has declared war?

Please tell me that! Take of your blinkers Sir and smell the #e.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by fooks

Originally posted by praxis
Iran has been pummeled by our propaganda networks for years. This does not surprise me.

What would you do if you caught seven terrorist trying to enter your country?



call them american troops?


With comments like that you spit in the face of every service member past, present and future. As a former Marine I take offense to this statement. You are essentially calling me a terrorist.

As the old saying goes:
"Walk a mile in my shoes..."
Or the shoes or boots of any service member serving who serve honorably, as I did.

Do not condemn everyone for the acts of a few.

Grow up and get a grip. Thank you, drive through.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 12:16 PM
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You are essentially calling me a terrorist.


if the shoe fits...

second line



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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With comments like that you spit in the face of every service member past, present and future. As a former Marine I take offense to this statement. You are essentially calling me a terrorist.


All-right, sparky. I'll come out and say it. Regardless of personal intentions, we are the bad guys.

For the sake of argument, lets say this story is true, and that if so it would only make logical sense to be a small group of the sneaky-bearded-guys. While i'm certain that the majority are not psychopaths, have you seen the bonuses those guys get? That kind of money always attracts the kind of men who will do anything for it.

As for walking a mile in your shoes - been there, doing that...going on a little over a decade now, so I feel confident in speaking from experience.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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From Press TV:

Iran rejects arrest of 7 US troops

From the Link:






Iran rejects arrest of 7 US troops



Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) rejects rumors of seven US troops being detained on the border of southeastern province of Sistan-Baluchestan.

"Seven American troops were detained by Iranian guards in a southeastern province of the country ... Two Iranians accompanying the troops were also arrested," Reuters reported earlier on Sunday.

IRGC has rejected the reports as unfounded and says no US troops have been arrested.

"No American troop has been arrested. We deny it," Ali Mohammad Azad, the governor of Sistan-Baluchestan Province, told the Arabic-language channel Al-Alam.

The Pentagon also denied arrest reports as false. "We have no missing soldiers. All accounted for," AFP quoted Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell as saying.

Pakistani Foreign Ministry spokesman Abdul Basit told AFP that "There are no US soldiers there -- the question of arrest does not arise."

MYA/HGH/MMN


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Iran via the Sistan-Baluchestan governor denies apprehending US Soldiers on it's territory.

Makes you wonder where the report carried on Reuters and Fars News Agency that soldiers had been captured, originally came from.

Who benefits from US-Iranian tensions being heightened by a news story like this?

Hmmmmmmm.

Here's a clue: They are not a friend of Iran. And they are not truly a friend of the US either but is armed to the teeth by the US.

Hmmm.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by DeadpoolPete


You are essentially calling me a terrorist.


if the shoe fits...




Unfortunately, the shoe has "fit" all too often. If all the people murdered by US operations stood up from their graves at one time - we'd have one hell of a population problem.

It's a supreme feat that the US has traditionally kept the killing fields overseas (and out of view) while building a blind, loyal and stupid populace at home.






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posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by NeverApologize
Iran has essentially, no they have, declared war.


Let me get this straight.....Iran have declared war if they have captured US Soldiers on Iranian territory.

Run that by me again?

'How dare Iran have the audacity to apprehend unauthorised foreign soldiers in it's territory! This means war!'



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Regensturm
Run that by me again?


Haven't you been reading the memos? We can do no wrong. We can invade any country and kill as many civilians, blow up as much stuff as we want, and call it a peace keeping mission. If our troops are captured sneaking into another country, that means THEY declared war on US!

September 19, 2010 Iran just declared war on us. Oh, and they have us surrounded.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 01:06 PM
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Is this what Mossad wants us to believe:

Despite denials, Iran did kidnap 5 Americans on Afghan soil


Notwithstanding Pentagon and Tehran's denials that seven US troops were detained by Iranian border guards, debkafile's military and Iranian sources report that Iran did in fact kidnap 5 Americans in Afghanistan nearly a week ago. Tehran denied its own semi-official Fars agency report in the face of a furious reaction from associates of Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who said it was leaked deliberately as the president was on the way to New York for the UN General Assembly.
According to our sources, the five Americans were waylaid by Iranian Revolutionary Guardsmen who dragged them from Afghanistan across the border into Iran and is holding them prisoner. It happened so fast that the soldiers had no time to draw their weapons in self-defence. It is believed they were either not expecting Iranian gunmen on the Afghan side of the border, or else the assailants were disguised in Afghan army uniforms. The Saravan district where it took place is mountainous and convenient for ambush operations.
Tehran keeps the Afghan-Pakistani borders heavily guarded and under tight surveillance to block entry to US spies and commandos. Their patrols were able to keep track of US movements across the border. At one point, they decided to use this knowledge and capture US security personnel for the purpose of humiliating America and building up a negative public attitude in America toward a possible US military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities.
Tehran decided to keep the capture of the five Americans under wraps, while according to debkafile's sources, Washington was made aware of the event. The intention was to keep it dark so as not to spoil Ahmadinejad's and business meetings at the UN assembly.

In the past week, Iranian air patrols, taking off from the Birjand airfield, have intensified their patrols over the Iranian border district with Afghanistan to prevent American over-flights.

Acting Iranian Chief of Staff Gholam-Ali Rashid commented this week: "it is not overstating the fact when we say that we are on the verge of a possible future war." He spoke when questioned about war marches played daily in the public parks of Mashad, capital of Khorassan province in north east Iran.
The capture of American nationals first came to light Sunday afternoon, Sept. 19 when the semi-official Fars news agency reported that Iranian borders guards had recently detained 7 American soldiers accused of illegally crossing the border. This report was swiftly denied by Tehran and the Pentagon.

debkafile's military sources report the incident marks a sharp escalation in a developing crisis between Iran and the United States involving hostage-taking and suspected spies. Last week, for half a million dollars, Tehran released Sarah Shourd, one of three American hikers Iran seized near the Iraqi border a year ago and threatens to try as spies.

The latest incident was published by Tehran as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad headed for New York to attend the UN Disarmament conference. Saturday, Sept. 18, he touched down in Damascus for talks with Syrian president Bashar Assad. Then, during a stopover in Algiers, he demanded that the US release 8 Iranian detainees. He did not identify them, but debkafile reports they are Revolutionary Guards officers and Iranian agents who were working with Iraqi terrorist rings when they were captured by US troops in Iraq.
For some time, Iran has accused the American CIA of training and assisting the separatist Baluchi Jundallah organization stage attacks on Iranian targets from Pakistani territory. But this is the first time Tehran has released information about captured Americans.

There were conflicting reports Saturday about a clash involving Jundallah operatives and an alleged attempt to abduct Iranian Guards men. The Baluchi organization claimed six Iranians were seized in the southeast, while Iranian sources in Tehran and Baluchestan said that five Iranian troops were kidnapped and released in a battle in which one Iranian soldier and three kidnappers were killed.

The next day, Tehran reported - then denied - detaining 7 American soldiers, followed by the Pentagon.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by Regensturm
Makes you wonder where the report carried on Reuters and Fars News Agency that soldiers had been captured, originally came from.

Who benefits from US-Iranian tensions being heightened by a news story like this?

Hmmmmmmm.

Here's a clue: They are not a friend of Iran. And they are not truly a friend of the US either but is armed to the teeth by the US.

Hmmm.


Nice catch!


Looks like some unknown entity is seeding the wire services with misinformation again. . As for the origin of said misinformation, you must be talking about the Republic of Georgia.






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