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Obama has trouble quoting the Declaration of Independence.

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posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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It was the Declaration of Independence, not the Preamble to the Constitution that was flubbed - it even says so in the title of the thread.

Most of the PINOs that are chanting about restoring the Constitution wouldn't know what is in the Constitution if it bit them on the backside. Just as you can't distinguish between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, or blame the school system for their own ignorance.




posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 07:35 PM
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Constitutional lawyer.....sure ok..more like constipated zombie. He's controlled and could care less about anything that involves real freedom. Our congress made up of the same pile of garbage and their all in bed together. Get ready for a whole new reality where nearly every aspect of your life is controlled by psycho sick evil freaks (SSEF). No going back, no fixing this massive onslaught of "lets take away every f**king right you have (had) and then wipe our a** with this (no longer applicable document) call the (Constitution of the United Socialistic States).



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 07:37 PM
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As some of you might know, I'm no fan of President Obama.

I've read this whole thread, and this is my impression of the video:

I don't think President Obama was trying to directly quote the Declaration of Independance -- he was paraphrasing. It wasn't just the "endowed by their Creator" that he changed.

"This land of plenty was home to many people; The British and French, Dutch and Spanish...... to Mexican, to countless Indian tribes.......... we all shared the same land. We didn't always get along, but over the centuries, what eventually bound us together, what made us all Americans, was not a matter of blood..... it wasn't a matter of birth............ it was faith an, fidelity in the shared values we all hold so dear.

We hold these truths to be self-evident; All men are created equal. Endowed with certain inalienable rights. Life and liberty..... and the pursuit of happiness -- that's what makes us unique. That's what makes us strong. "

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Tell you the truth, what kinda ticks me off is that he DIDN'T quote directly from the Declaration of Independence, and I don't think he meant to. I think he meant to say it just as he did -- a general paraphrasing of it, as it worked into his carefully cultured speech such that it was intended to seem conversational, rather than rehearsed.

I think it was meant to be evocative -- to stir feelings of patriotism and nationalism.

I also think it's a nonissue, at least for me, within context of all the other things that I BELIEVE the President is mismanaging or falling short of within his office.

I have to add that I watched the video clip at least a dozen times; Much of what I do is lipreading. I've watching a lot of the President's speeches, and I think I have a pretty fair handle on his word formation, however it's possible that I misread part of the above quote that I attributed to him.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
How many average US citizens would be able to cite those lines from the US constitution if they had to ..


He's the POTUS - not an average citizen. He swore an oath to defend the US Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. It would be nice if he actually knew what was in the document that he swore to defend. Or perhaps he knows and decided that God doesn't belong in it. Either way ... he didn't get it right .. and he got caught screwing up ... again.


It was the Declaration of Independence, not the Preamble to the Constitution that was flubbed.

The President has taught Constitutional Law. He knows what is in it.

It would be nice if you actually knew the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution that you seem to be at such pains to criticize other people about.

Or perhaps you know and decided that truth doesn't belong in your anti-Obama polemic.

Either way ... you didn't get it right .. and you got caught screwing up ... again.




edit on 19/9/2010 by rnaa because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 07:48 PM
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Let's lay all the cards on the table, and have every politician at every level quote the same passage.

Politics is such BS, and the people that point out all of these little idiosyncratic issues have to much time on their hands.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by argentus


I also think it's a nonissue, at least for me, within context of all the other things that I BELIEVE the President is mismanaging or falling short of within his office.



It's almost as if this type of criticism (birth certificate, accusations of 'socialist, communist, mulsim ' questioning his patriotism, etc) are distractions FROM the real issues some might be able to take with his Administration.

Which kinda makes those who perpetuate it unwitting players in an elaborate distraction.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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Funny we are just refering to the preamble...


No, we aren't.

We are talking about the Declaration of Independence.

What does your memorizing the Preamble have to do with the President using a partial quote from the Declaration of Independence?



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by gaslaugh123
Constitutional lawyer.....sure ok..more like constipated zombie. He's controlled and could care less about anything that involves real freedom. Our congress made up of the same pile of garbage and their all in bed together. Get ready for a whole new reality where nearly every aspect of your life is controlled by psycho sick evil freaks (SSEF). No going back, no fixing this massive onslaught of "lets take away every f**king right you have (had) and then wipe our a** with this (no longer applicable document) call the (Constitution of the United Socialistic States).


i bet you couldn't even name your state or county representative without google

second



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 07:58 PM
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Bravo for calling out all the folks who mixed up the Constitution and the Declaration!

Although, I'll have to admit I found those mix-ups to be one of the funniest things about this thread.


I just wish more people would post W Bush videos. Those are the greatest.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 08:11 PM
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The fact that Barack Obama cannot quote key passages within the Declaration of Independence actually surprises you guys?

1) He believes that the tenets upon which this country was founded are wrong;
2) He does not believe that Americans derive their rights from their maker, but rather obtains them via federal govt. fiat.
3) He was not born in these United States, nor was he raised here.
4) His father, from whom he got his "dreams" was an avowed communist.

Do I have to go on?

What surprises me is that you guys don't yet understand that Barack Obama is a statist dictator, and that he hates basic American principles.




posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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I don't know about anybody else, but I'm getting tired of all the nit picking about this current president. If you don't like him don't vote for him in 2012. I guess now we're going to here he's the anti-christ because that line was left out.
Give me a bone with some meat on it! If this is what we're going to look at for an intelligent debate on politics, God help us.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by MMPI2
The fact that Barack Obama cannot quote key passages within the Declaration of Independence actually surprises you guys?

1) He believes that the tenets upon which this country was founded are wrong;
2) He does not believe that Americans derive their rights from their maker, but rather obtains them via federal govt. fiat.
3) He was not born in these United States, nor was he raised here.
4) His father, from whom he got his "dreams" was an avowed communist.

Do I have to go on?

What surprises me is that you guys don't yet understand that Barack Obama is a statist dictator, and that he hates basic American principles.



interesting points.

can you provide some back up for them so i can learn more about your fascinating ideas?



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by SeventhSeal
God forbid the guy being human and make an error, right?

2nd line.

Teabaggers will take any error he makes and try to run with it....



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by MMPI2
The fact that Barack Obama cannot quote key passages within the Declaration of Independence actually surprises you guys?

1) He believes that the tenets upon which this country was founded are wrong;
2) He does not believe that Americans derive their rights from their maker, but rather obtains them via federal govt. fiat.
3) He was not born in these United States, nor was he raised here.
4) His father, from whom he got his "dreams" was an avowed communist.

Do I have to go on?

What surprises me is that you guys don't yet understand that Barack Obama is a statist dictator, and that he hates basic American principles.



Your ass doesnt count as a legit source.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 08:37 PM
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From the looks of it he was trying to contain his laughter.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 09:16 PM
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Meh. I don't think that is anything of merit. I think its completely stupid to criticize the Man on every little itty bitty thing. We all say stupid stuff, we all have a lapse of memory at times, we all have our moments of spitting out words that we didn't intend to actually vocalize. Anyone who has ever spoken in public on more than one occasion should realize this. It just happens. Now granted I disagree with the man on a vast majority of his actions, philosophies and polices but this is completely trivial along with the 57 states thing. It's all just a trivial blip on the radar. You don't like the way he runs things? Don't vote for him. Point out legitimate reasons to keep him out of office and give supporting facts and share with others. It's easy. There's no need for this nonsense.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 09:37 PM
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My last comment on this topic.

If Obama, himself, comes out and acknowledges it as a mistake and an error of omission, I'll accept it. If not, I will continue to see it an an intentional omission and as his belief that those rights are given by the government and may be retracted, by the government.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by MMPI2
The fact that Barack Obama cannot quote key passages within the Declaration of Independence actually surprises you guys?

1) He believes that the tenets upon which this country was founded are wrong;
2) He does not believe that Americans derive their rights from their maker, but rather obtains them via federal govt. fiat.
3) He was not born in these United States, nor was he raised here.
4) His father, from whom he got his "dreams" was an avowed communist.

Do I have to go on?

What surprises me is that you guys don't yet understand that Barack Obama is a statist dictator, and that he hates basic American principles.




SOURCE PLEASE? Posting unsourced information is really frowned on around here......So if you want ANY of us to believe what you're saying....give us some sources buddy.



posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 11:53 PM
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Technically the Mexicans weren't "Mexicans" until after 1810...before that they were Spanish and their land belonged to Spain...another minor detail that is off, but nobody seemed to catch



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
It's obvious by now what he thinks of dry runs.
He didn't think he needed to rehearse it, thought he would wing it instead and flopped.
Just another example that he is ill prepared, regardless of the situation.
Must have his mind on his next vacation.


Bush spent 1,020 days of his presidency on vacation, Just another example of people like yourself watching Fixed News and memorizing inaccurate talking points.



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