Watchdog group: Delaware candidate's spending 'flat-out illegal'

www.cnn.com...

A watchdog group says it plans to ask authorities in Delaware to investigate Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell's finances.

At issue are more than $20,000 of spending in 2009 and 2010 that Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington claims was illegal.

"It turns out Miss O'Donnell has treated her campaign funds like they are her very own personal piggy bank. She's used that money to pay for things like her rent, for gas, meals and even a bowling outing. And that's just flat-out illegal," said Melanie Sloan, the group's executive director.

That is exactly what her former campaign manager claimed. If proven guilty what would be the consequences?

reply to post by Misoir

If proven guilty what would be the consequences?

Nadah,zip,nothing...

They all do it..Some just don't hide it aswell as others..

Either way, expect no punishment because that would open a big can of worms.....

Real shocker there..

A proven liberal organization attacks a Conservative..

reply to post by Misoir


Well now.......I've been watching this to see if anyone could come up with something other than the masterbation thing.........if this is true, I think she should admit it, pay the money back, and then say she didn't know it was wrong........just like everyone else does. I'm glad to see it is a valid thing to look at, in my opinion, however, it does seem to be the norm anymore.

Edit.....S&F for pointing out something serious instead of the usual partisan nonsense here.

If it is true she should be held accountable. If it stirs the hornets nest, so be it. It is time for the People to demand accountability from all sides.

That said, this could just be conjured up election time musings. Throw out a story that will put doubt into peoples minds.

If that be the case, this group should be equally held accountable for trying to steer an election with lies.

Either way, someone is in the wrong here. If it is O'Donnell then she should do the right thing. If it is the group, they should be held accountable also.

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On another note.....This is what our information has come down to.

This group levies a claim. It gets propagated in the media as fact when nothing yet is fact, only claims. As if there are facts, why not present them? Why did you wait until she won the primary?

Then once pushed to the media, it gets to places like here where people who do not do their homework will incorporate it into their arguments as fact, because a group made a claim.

I have spotted this on several threads now.

Anyway, in no way saying it is or isn't true, just pointing out that tidbit.

reply to post by Misoir


Here is the groups site that alleges the impropriety - www.citizensforethics.org...

Here is the executive director's page on the HuffPo- www.huffingtonpost.com...

Just so we know who it is that is lodging the complaint.


Edit to add-what is the technique being used?

Oh yeah, straight up Saul Alinsky model!

Originally posted by Misoir
. If proven guilty what would be the consequences?

It would mean she's just like the other corrupt politicians .... Obama, Dodd, Barney Frank, ... etc


CNN (left wing) .. Huffington Post (left wing) ... The Republican Party ... Mike Castle (R)
The Democrats ... etc etc etc Geeeze ... nearly everyone hates this woman.

For a little more on the Saul Alinsky model.

CBS Dishonestly Touts 'Non-Partisan Watchdog' Group's Quest for a 'Criminal Investigation' of Christine O'Donnell

Snippet of article.

Reporter Nancy Cordes painted O'Donnell as a hypocrite, charging that “even as she preached a return to fiscal conservatism, O'Donnell's own unorthodox spending habits were starting to come under heavy scrutiny,” asserting “the unemployed O'Donnell used campaign funds to pay for meals, gas, bowling trips, and personal rent, even long after the campaign had ended.”

CBS then gave a platform to veteran Democratic activist Melanie Sloan, who is now advancing her liberal agenda as Executive Director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW). She alleged O'Donnell “just stole” campaign donations.

Cordes legitimized CREW by misleadingly describing the obviously liberal outfit as “the non-partisan watchdog group” which “is urging the U.S. attorney in Delaware to open a criminal investigation.” Sloan got a second soundbite to declare: “It's not sloppiness, it's out-and-out theft.”

Hey Misoir, maybe NEXT time, you could put some CONTEXT to exactly is putting forth the accusations.

Wouldn't want to be using the Saul Alinsky model would you?

So she spent some of her campaign money on herself? Big Deal! What politician has not done the same in the past. There are some examples that come to mind. One would be former Illinois Governor, Rod Blagojevich, and former Presidential Candidate, John Edwards. Blagojevich used his political funds for his defense during a corruption trial where he was acquitted on all charges in a 23 count indictment, but one.

. . .a campaign war chest that's empty of the $2.7 million it held before his lawyers got paid to defend him on corruption charges . . .

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Since he was convicted on one count, the prosecution is scheduled to retry the case some time next year. In the case, of John Edwards it is alleged that he used campaign funds on a company which would later turn out to be a company associated with his mistress Rialle Hunter.

Failed presidential candidate John Edwards, whose political action committee paid more than $100,000 to his mistress' company . . .

www.foxnews.com...

The article is from 2009, and I am unclear if the investigation into the matter bore any fruit? However, here are two politicians using donor money for more than just buttons, campaign posters, and television commercials. Give a politician your hard earned bucks and they well spend it. They spend money like drunken sailors. Both sides of the aisle are guilty of mishandling political funds. Christine O'Donnell is just another in the long list of money-grubbers who have penchant for stealing lollipops from babies when mom and dad aren't looking, talking from the side of their mouth, and a lust cash filled envelopes. Just your usual run-of-the-mill politician. All talk and no substance. It seems to be the growing trend among political hopefuls?

Originally posted by semperfortis
Real shocker there..
A proven liberal organization attacks a Conservative..

Let's not even try to find out the facts, there's a "liberal organization" attacking conservatives -- that's all I need to know!

Shocking is a moderator of ATS fueling the political divide. No wonder the political discourse in here is just as bad.

Originally posted by semperfortis
Real shocker there..

A proven liberal organization attacks a Conservative..

Real shocker here....Legitimate evidence of corruption is presented regarding a conservative politician and it is dimissed as a "Liberal Smear"..

How about you actually examine the evidence "Mod"?

It must have been just a Liberal Smear when CREW sued the Obama adminsistration repeatedly or when they recently demanded "Rangel must Go"

As a Matter of fact thier list of representitives investigated in 2009 includes 12 Democrats and 4 GOP.
www.citizensforethics.org...

What ridicoulous BS and from a "Mod" no less...

Is it too much to ask of the "values party" to examine the evidence before aping the propaganda thier GOP handlers have fed them. Or do you need to be personally propositioned in an airport bathroom before you question a GOP representitives ethics?

What nonsense.

Her former Campaign FINANCE Advisor and also a former campaign aide are the ones bringing this up! GOP loyalists!

Here I'll get you started...Prepare to close your eyes, plug your ears and chant "Liberal, Lefty smear"

Originally posted by KerbDune

Originally posted by semperfortis
Real shocker there..
A proven liberal organization attacks a Conservative..

Let's not even try to find out the facts, there's a "liberal organization" attacking conservatives -- that's all I need to know!

Yeah, who has time for facts right? I think it was her ex-campaign manager who is making these accusations and I doubt that the manager of a conservative campaign is a liberal.

Nothing at all like the conservatives creating falsified video in an attempt to vilify ACORN. Could you please be a little bit more hypocritical?

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower

Hey Misoir, maybe NEXT time, you could put some CONTEXT to exactly is putting forth the accusations.

Wouldn't want to be using the Saul Alinsky model would you?

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) Investigated 9 Democrats and 4 Republicans last year and has repeated lawsuits against the Obama administration.

Remember the whole brew-ha-ha over "visitor lists" to the white house that the GOP was screaming about?

The whitehouse didn't want to release the lists and were sued until they relented? THAT WAS CREW.

CREW...Like every other media source that even remotely raises a concern about a GOP politician is immediately painted as "Lefty, Liberal, Commie Media"...How efen convenient for the corrupt bastards and thier delibertly obtuse followers.

The GOP platform is not to "End Corruption in Washington"...it is "End Democrat Corruption in Washington"...the GOP?...well ...they are "our" corrupt representitives, we don't care. Lie, steal, proposition men in bathrooms...we are behind you!!"

For thier part CREW doesn't look for an R or a D next to the name and they are only a "Liberal" org when it is a GOP candidate they are looking at.

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Right, and the Executive Director just happens to be a democrat that writes for the HuffPo.

Yeah, it is a LITTLE different when you actually research problems instead of jumping on them when they can NO LONGER BE COVERED up.

Whatever.

I live in Delaware. I'd still rather have her on the ballot in November then Mike Castle. WHY? Because it ticked off Republican HQ. They are all stomping their feet like little school girls and Castle refuses to call and congratulate her. She is 'by the people' ... not 'by the party' ... and he's having a hissy fit!

Originally posted by FlyersFan
I live in Delaware. I'd still rather have her on the ballot in November then Mike Castle. WHY? Because it ticked off Republican HQ. They are all stomping their feet like little school girls and Castle refuses to call and congratulate her. She is 'by the people' ... not 'by the party' ... and he's having a hissy fit!

Hell of a campaign slogan "I piss off the establsihment".

Never mind that she is running on "Ending Corruption" while usuing her campaign funds for rent, cars, bowling...EVERYTHING...Her best defense so far is.."Hey...I needed the money, I didn't have a job". Well at least she wasn't on welfare or unemployment,...actually they should look into that as well. She stole money directly from voters as opposed to a welfare check...exactly the TPs kind of "Values".

yep, let's send her to DC. The fierce backing of this candidate by the TP tells me everything I need to know about them..."Fiscal Conservatism" has NOTHING to do with it.

The TPs other pick, that spent his days sending racist emails and pornographic videos to friends and workers, tells me that "Values" has NOTHING to do with it.

O'Donnell has been unemployed, illegally living off of public funds for 5 years, Paladino was sending racist jokes and bestiality videos to co-workers....what is the TP platform??? Cus it sure as hell isn't values or fiscal conservatism

Originally posted by maybereal11
Never mind that she is running on "Ending Corruption" while usuing her campaign funds for rent, cars, bowling...EVERYTHING...Her best defense so far is.."Hey...I needed the money, I didn't have a job". Well at least she wasn't on welfare or unemployment,...actually they should look into that as well. She stole money directly from voters as opposed to a welfare check...exactly the TPs kind of "Values".

This is exactly what I was highlighting in my second post above. The group is yet to submit their charges and findings to the FEC, yet you are pushing it off as facts. What I have read is they are all allegations and nothing has been proven.

If this group wanted to do the 'right' thing, then why not hold a press conference that shows all your evidence? Or at least some of it? Granted that would probably make the evidence null in a court of law, but would still be damning to the FEC, which would destroy her political career.

What is even more telling, is that the GOP establishment lost and lost hard to an unknown. Someone who lost 2 times before winning this primary. They are sore so they have alleged the same thing AFTER she wins the primary. Politics at its finest.

As I have said before, if through thorough investigation and solid evidence it shows she misused her funds, then nail her to the wall. If not, does the two groups levying claims get off without a word? Probably because our system favors this time of political hit.

Originally posted by semperfortis
Real shocker there..

A proven liberal organization attacks a Conservative..

Real Shocker here...

This makes the alleged allegation nul'n'void

"Oh no! MSNBC pointed out Iraq does not have WMD!"

"Well, that must mean they do and nobodies found em yet"

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by maybereal11

 

Right, and the Executive Director just happens to be a democrat that writes for the HuffPo.

Yeah, it is a LITTLE different when you actually research problems instead of jumping on them when they can NO LONGER BE COVERED up.

Whatever.

Them walls Foam

it must hurt you personally

watch -

Rangel's a crook!!!

Clinton sold us out to the big corporations with NAFTA!

see, because they might advocate for things I might like, does not mean they are unable to sin or be crooked.

lesson over