Originally posted by adifferentbreed
Further proof today of what you are saying.......now Obama wants black lawmakers to go back home and drum up support.....they need black people in power......can you imagine a white president saaying the reverse?

Nope. 'Cuz the white Anglo-Saxon males still run the show.

...A white president doesn't have to make that call.

On the other hand the WASP PTB are calling on their fellow WASPs to procreate - 'cuz they're not having babies and TPTB are getting quite worried about the numbers.

Another level of hidden racism.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
The truth is that real racism was obliterated one hundred years ago...except for a tiny minority of crazies.

100 years ago? What about all of that Civil Rights stuff? You know, that part in our history where people made other people sit in the backs of buses and drink out of different water fountains and use different public facilities because of the color of their skin?

well hell, if that ain't racism, then I don't know what is!

I'm not a leftist or right-wing.

I fly solo, no donkeys or elephants for me.
My bird of choice is...

Anarchy.

Love out of Chaos, Chaos out of Love.

Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
That's why these coming elections are going to be very hard for me to decide what to do, is not voting actually a reasonable option? Maybe.

Voting is important. But self-reliance is even more important, imo.

Originally posted by Skyfloating

There is the open type of racism of the far-right and the hidden type of racism of the far-left. The hidden type of racism is more dangerous because most people - including the far-left - are not even aware of it being racism.

There is both hidden and open racism on the left and the right of the political spectrum.

The seed of this stupidity lies at the core of leftist ideology that claims that all minority groups are "oppressed" and the "ruling class" is automatically "the oppressor".

What?

Brainwashed in this way, a leftist thinks that just because 1% of the far-right behave and talk like racists, that this applies to 99% of the right-wing.
Brainwashed in this way, an idiot believes that because some leftists subscribe to such stupidity, all must do.

Whilst I too disagree with 'affirmative action' and its UK equivalent, I feel compelled to point out that such policies aren't restricted simply to the 'far' left.

Originally posted by The Sword
Oh really? I suppose because I'm deaf, I'm supposed to have lowered expectations in life?

That depends whether it severely impedes you or not.

For example, a man with cerebral palsy may wish to become the world's greatest weightlifter; however, due to no fault of his own, the chances are that he probably won't be. Likewise, a blind man may wish to become a great formula one driver, or a fighter pilot - neither of which are going to happen (at least until technology advances sufficiently).

People who are badly physically or mentally impaired will, by nature, usually have less choices available to them than a fully fit and healthy person.

Originally posted by The Sword
Either make it possible for people like me to find employment or quit crying about those who've given up and gone on the dole.

How deaf are you? Do you require a sign translator or anything like that?

Originally posted by joechip
since my point clearly had nothing to do with "affirmative action," and everything to do with the absurdity of the assertion in the opening quote that blacks had largely lifted themselves out of poverty,

Why is it absurd to think that the blacks that are not in poverty have lifted themselves out of poverty? If not them, who did?

I'm not sure you're capable of honest debate.

I'm not going to call you a racist

Originally posted by The Sword
This whole thread is bull anyway. We might as well ditch affirmative action and legalize discrimination again.

Why does it always have to be one extreme or another?

Well, affirmative action may not have worked for the black community, but it has worked wonders for women in the workforce. Although affirmative action is generally associated with blacks in this country, the greatest beneficiary of affirmative action programs have been women, from getting into college to getting into middle management, to getting into the boardroom.

Also, I notice a lot of misunderstanding about how most affirmative action works. It is most often used when two candidates are just about equal in every way except ethnicity. If 98% of your workforce, or your student body is one ethnicity, then you might consider having a bit of diversity a plus, given the same qualifications.

Additionally. If a someone gets into college through affirmative action (like Clarence Thomas did), that has nothing to do with HOW he does in college. If he can't handle the work, he'll flunk out. If he excels (like Thomas did) then, clearly he was qualified to be there, even if affirmative action gave him a hand up getting into the school.

so clarence was put there because he was black?

wasn't he the one with anita hill?