Photograph of Indonesian undead? The walking corpse of Toraja., page 2


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reply posted on 18-9-2010 @ 05:03 AM by One Step Beyond...
reply to post by infinite



I don't think it's a disease nor an undead, just a bizarre culture like many others devoted to "ancient ways". They are completely different from us and that's what makes us confused.

I am still not sure of anything but still bet on their cultural aspect.


reply posted on 18-9-2010 @ 05:05 AM by Hefficide
reply to post by ahamarlin



Look at her nose and fingers. She is either dead or has some form of rotting disease.



reply posted on 18-9-2010 @ 05:31 AM by muzzleflash
It could very well be a corpse. Interesting.
Maybe it's not theres no way to know without further documentation etc.

But honestly I see no reason why this wouldn't be possible. Technically speaking, the corpse of a deceased could actually be made to walk in some fashion. It is just merely a decayed husk, with it's electrical wiring and ligaments remaining. They are merely decayed, but not completely. So there might still be a little juice left in a dead body, I don't see why not.

This is just speculation of course.

It reminds me of the old 'voodoo zombie' tales, but with a slightly different twist.
en.wikipedia.org...


Also it brings to mind the ancient practices of "Necromancy".

Please have a look.
en.wikipedia.org...

Point is, I am not sure if this particular case is true or not.
But there is enough information around, and theories about, the subject to take a second look at the least.

There is no actual physical law that would prevent this from being true.

Although it is quite bizarre by our standards and exceptionally rare in our media.

The 'modern world' has different types of zombie ideas, mostly based on apocalyptic situation X scenarios popularized in our culture.


reply posted on 18-9-2010 @ 08:51 AM by Hefficide
reply to post by Kandinsky



ETA: has the recession begun to hit flags? The OP and image totally deserve a SnF. He's just made me stare at a *possible* corpse for 5 minutes when I'd usually last a split-second and get all grossed-out.

Thank you for that reminder!

I have now remedied my oversight!


reply posted on 18-9-2010 @ 09:53 AM by Shazmar
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I've got a feeling that this relates to the Malagasy tradition of Famadihana, or The Turning of the Bones. Supposedly unique to the Island of Madagascar. Can't say it is something I thought was still going on just remember reading about it somewhere many years ago, but even then thought it was something that occurred way back in history. Managed to find this info with a quick google search.

"For many outsiders the practice, which involves exhuming dead
relatives, rewrapping them in fresh grave clothes and dancing with them
around the tomb, can seem almost impossibly strange, ghoulish even."

More info here just scroll down cultures.wordpress.com...



reply posted on 18-9-2010 @ 09:53 AM by stars15k
reply to post by QuickStudy



I'm with you on this one. Good work finding the pictures.
What counts as "walking" for some, would just be holding something stiff (mummified) and walking it. Like people do with babies, before they are actually able to walk. Sorry about the image of a baby combined with this, but at least there is no picture.
The second thing that makes me thinking it's folklore is that it is a single picture. Surely someone who wanted to show a case of real "walking dead" would have taken and posted many more pictures. Most still digital cameras can even do video. Really, if you saw this wouldn't you be snapping pix as fast as you can? And snapping more detail?
I vote "hoax" for the modern unfamiliar and folklore in practice for that society.


reply posted on 18-9-2010 @ 02:00 PM by Silver Star
reply to post by defcon5


Yes and the arms are crossed, as they would be in a coffin.

Quite a poignant photograph really.


reply posted on 18-9-2010 @ 05:13 PM by Maybe...maybe not
Originally posted by QuickStudy
I agree this is simply a corpse being supported by someone. I googled the image “mayat+berjalan" and found a thread that shows similar images. Notice all are being supported.
Soure: Link



QuickStudy.....

Thanks for posting those photos.

It appears I was wrong when I made my original guess at this being a very bad case of leprosy or something along those lines.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


reply posted on 18-9-2010 @ 05:28 PM by mateandbucky06
reply to post by XXXN3O



They are not actually warts. It is a type of HPV, however, still sad.I do not know if that woman in the pic is really the walking dead, but who really knows right? I think if there is anyone who believes a Jewish carpenter can come back to life after three days then why not 'walking dead' zombies?


reply posted on 18-9-2010 @ 06:04 PM by RainCloud
If this in other part of the world, I would say some guys cleaning/moving corpse, but since it in Indonesia, I'll say its djinn/spirits summoned by black magic to help. It did not exist in western, australian, japanese, chinese, european and african culture/region. Not sure about India. Range is about East Timor to around Egypt.

The djinn (I suspect) is summoned and asked to posses the body and walk it back to the proper grave. Its really unique anyway because I havent heard things like this, usually the djin/spirit is sent to perform black magic/posession/nasty stuff on living people, not dead ones.

Djin exist only in Islam religion, they maybe be muslim or non muslim (mostly), Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, Myanmar, some central asia, and middle east countries is where people usually have contact with this djinn species, mostly used for black magic - from possesion, torture and up to killing. Some have used djin for alternative traditional medication purposes. Walking corpse is a new usage for me, I never thought its possible.

Usual modus operandi of black magic shaman:
1.Send a djin/spirit to posess a body, then people will call the shaman to help, the shaman ask his djin/spirit to go away, patients cured - get paid. Basic way to get quick cash. Exorcism can cure this.
2.A spiritual booby trap is set (usually buried) when the person walkover it, a djin/spirit then triggered to insert "weird nasty stuff" eg "sarong clothes" inside target body (stomach usually) in different dimension, patient will be tortured in pain and die if not cured. Modern equipment might detect moving lumps/stone or might not detect anything. Spiritual surgery might and might not cure this. If the djinn/spirit too powerful, only the sending shaman can pull/call it back. Think stomach that looks like a balloon.
3.A random target is choosen and attack using wind and sometime through food, this method usually just to test the shaman power or his yearly payment to the devil/spirit. Patient/target usually cough up blood on the spot, while in medication "dangerous stuff" usually materialised (razor blades, glass shrapnels/dust, bamboo thorns, centipedes, sewage water, scorpions etc) Usually Koran citation can cure this if its early (like exorcism).
4.Love potion, once swipe youre into her/him. Potion is made from a virgin corspe chin fat. Among other usage is to hypnotise people, beat the job interview , makes people like you etc. The owner doesnt experience anything but those who live with him will be haunted. I dont know how they cure this.

A few more black magic, but walking corpse is truly new usage

Most of these activity reduced now while modernization take place, but I do believe its still practiced.
It might be shocking and unbelievable to you, but this is South East Asia and these things really happens, there are even clinics for these stuff!.

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