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Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
You know what guys as truthers "United we stand divided we fall" should be considered at this point.
I would suggest we focus on WTC7 as a gateway to the truth of that day.
Just saying this debate makes us all get painted with the same crazy brush, by people that are learning about this for the first time.
Originally posted by dragnet53
Beware of the OP in this thread. He/she believes in "dr." Judy Wood's work. If people actually believe the OP there is no hope for you in your critical thinking skills. I also believe the OP is a disinfo agent. I noticed also that since the movement has increased so has the disinfo.
I thought ATS was closely monitoring these threads?
edit on 18-9-2010 by dragnet53 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Skellon
reply to post by dragnet53
My point is that there are enough people that do not believe that planes were used and that it was a case of media manipulation, suggestion, missiles, holograms, whatever.
Because you do not agree with this theory, then it is wrong?
If planes were used on that day then it is not impossible to consider that those that were in the immediate vicinity but had their back turned / were looking down changed their story to seeing the planes before the explosion and those that happened to be looking up at the time and saw no plane before the explosion do not wish to come forward as they do not want to look like idiots when MSM (the authority we all trust in) have footage of the planes.
Also, how many of these 'amateur' clips are there?
Certainly not hundreds, more like tens and because they are labelled as 'amateur' that makes them so?
Why did most of these amateur shots come out long after the events of that day, some many years later?
Yet this is not at all suspicious? It's a shakey home video, so it has to be genuine? Right?
I am still on the fence on this issue but it greaves me to see people ignoring points of interest that do not support what they believe.
As for the truth movement, by excluding theories, like that of Dr Judy Wood, they are showing that they are not entirely genuine. The ring leaders/ organisers of these movements may well be batting for the other team.
Is it not suspicious that Dr Judy Wood's theory is being silenced on so many forums, that PookztA himself has been 'silenced' for mentioning it at various sites and boards.
PookztA sent me a U2U earlier today claiming he had been 'silenced' on ATS aswell and has had his posts edited.
None of you find this at all strange?
9/11 new world order thermite demolition
Originally posted by ironfalcon
I remember watching 9/11 Director's Cut, or whatever its title was, and the documentary showed that a plane resembling an E-8 Joint STARS battlefield reconnaissance aircraft was used to hit the South Tower, judging by its lack of windows and an underfuselage pod, only seen on E-8 JSTARS.
Flight 175 was an E-8, not a 747 or 767 (it's 2 engined).
Northrup Grumman is trying to reduce the size of one laser to fit in a single C-130 cargo plane.
But once the technical problems are solved, strategic issues will loom large, posing questions that, so far, the Pentagon has not answered.
Originally posted by Skellon
For example, the F-117A Nighthawk 'Stealth Fighter'. This aircraft was revealed to the public in the early 90's after being operational in the late 70's