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Murkowski sells out in Alaska

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posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 09:18 PM
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As I'm typing, I've just finished watching a group composed of mainly Democrats supporting Murkowski's Write In Campaign.

I know some of them personally and they do not back Conservatives, period, end of subject. They only back people who back a pure Progressive agenda. She is in bed with the Unions and has sold out. These Unions never back anyone who will not vote entirely with the Left.

Now we now. It has been rumored all along she was a Progressive pretending to be a Conservative unlike her Father, who was a real Conservative. We knew she was Pro-Abortion and now we know her entire career has been a lie.

The only way the Fire Fighters and Police Unions would support her is with a promise she would vote with the Democrats. That much is sure.

I've been considering a move to Texas. Maybe?


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posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:03 PM
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First of all, I've never been to Alaska, but I know I prefer Texas' climate. Alaska is cold much of the year.

It's a big fight now. Murkowski probably has very powerful backers.

Can she get on the ballot as an independent? That's what Joseph Lieberman did in Connecticut 4 years ago when he lost the Dem. primary to Ned Lamont. Lamont should have been a shoo-in, handsome, old money, good speaker, now with major party backing, but somehow like magic Lieberman emerged with more recorded votes in the general election. And we're still stuck with Lieberman.

If she can't get on the ballot it would be hard for Murkowski to win. But if she can, one way or another ... watch out, she's still very dangerous.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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The Libertarians told her no, and then she acted like it was her decision. That left her with one choice, which is to run as a Write In. Independent is a Party here so I register as undeclared.

She has been passing herself off as a Republican and Conservative since being appointed by her Father. It has been rumored all along she is a Democrat and lying. Her record would indicate she is a Left leaning Moderate.

The people who backed her today, many of them anyway, only back the Left and Progressives. The Unions only endorse the Left and they are backing her run.

This will be interesting as she will pull many Democratic votes because of her backing by many Conservatives will run away from her.

To me, she is just a power mad, sore loser who just revealed her true colors. Stabbed her own Party in the back and went to bed with the other side at the drop of a hat. Either side would be nuts to vote for her.

She pretended this was a hard decision, but she has been emailing and calling all of these people for days. I find it odd she approached so many Democrats. She clearly can't be trusted. She got a taste of power riding on her Fathers shirttails and she clearly is addicted now to the point she would sell her soul to keep her place in DC.

Texas was tongue in cheek. Texas is too small of a State. I'd get claustrophobic and all that flat land and lack of trees would not sit well with me.



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posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:45 PM
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Alright folks, those that have said that they know that there is no REAL difference between the Tyrants in the Dems and the tyrants in the Repubs.

Tell me, now that the PROOF is staring you right in the eyes again (think Scuzzyforever), what are you going to do?

I think the best endorsement ever for a candidate now, is if the entrenched PTB type incumbents run against the Tea Party backed candidates.

I wonder when Castle is going to say that he is going to run a write in campaign?

Glad to see the Libertarian party flipped the bird to the POS Murkowski.

Forgot about Florida. Does anyone need anymore PROOF?


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posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:48 PM
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You do realize that there's no such thing as the "other" side? They're all one and the same.

Wake up.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:54 PM
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We have plenty of proof that the Tea Party is full of social conservatives that would normally run under the Republican banner.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
As I'm typing, I've just finished watching a group composed of mainly Democrats supporting Murkowski's Write In Campaign.


I watched maybe a few minutes of it, That was a huge ego stroke for her and it about made me throw up. I swear last night (thursday night) there was a yahoo article saying she was going to run and I don't remember if it was as a right in but I swear I saw the article last night.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 12:41 AM
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Which means we have to keep an eye on those RINO/Neo Cons/Progressives/Liberals.

They are all the same. Someone that wants to take my labor and property is just as much a tyrant as someone that wants to take my social freedoms.

Sorry, I have the same loathing for the Socialists as I do the Social Conservatives. They are both war mongers and they are both tyrants that want to take my freedoms.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 02:17 AM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
As I'm typing, I've just finished watching a group composed of mainly Democrats supporting Murkowski's Write In Campaign.

I know some of them personally and they do not back Conservatives, period, end of subject. They only back people who back a pure Progressive agenda. She is in bed with the Unions and has sold out. These Unions never back anyone who will not vote entirely with the Left.

Now we now. It has been rumored all along she was a Progressive pretending to be a Conservative unlike her Father, who was a real Conservative. We knew she was Pro-Abortion and now we know her entire career has been a lie.

The only way the Fire Fighters and Police Unions would support her is with a promise she would vote with the Democrats. That much is sure.

I've been considering a move to Texas. Maybe?


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Blaine,

I am in total agreement with you. I knew this woman would not go quietly into the night.

As a fellow Alaskan -- and a proud one at that -- I can't stand the woman. She is as fake as the powdered cheese "sauce" in my Kraft Mac & Cheese. I've seen her at the AFN convention demanding camera men "get this shot with this Native elder!"

Sickening.

I, however do not like this Joe Miller character. He is beyond radical, more than he lets on in public. At one of his appearances at Jitters coffee shop in Eagle River he had a core group of long-skirted females wearing bonnets belonging to some kind of fringe "Hutterite" religious cult asking patrons if they wanted to "meet Joe" -- this guy is not Alaska's next Ted Stevens.

He will only embarrass and further sully the Alaskan image. The American image of the "crazy un-educated Palin-like" Alaskan will only be furthered by his agenda. If he makes it to the beltway he will be in for a shocking surprise. Not only will he be ineffective, but forced eventually to bow to the two party system and become part of the problem. You don't get legislation passed or put on committees unless you scratch other's backs. Morals go out the window if you want anything done in DC.

I don't subscribe to either party -- both are corrupt. In principle I am a Constitutionalist and a Jeffersonian.

Can anyone tell me why Lisa looks like one of those dog chew toys you squeeze and the eyes bulge out?



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 02:20 AM
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I don't even know why people were wondering if she was going to run as a write-in ...

You don't throw an event at the De'nina Convention Center in downtown Anchorage if you are going to announce you aren't going to run as a write in...




posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 02:38 AM
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Smoke and mirrors my friend -- I've been trying to tell people the same thing for years. They fight on the floor of the Senate and Congress, but slap each other's backs and drink beers at the pub around the corner.

Left = communism (harshest, most extreme version)
Right= fascism (harshest, most extreme version)

Are both so different?

You see, both end goals by either party are the same, in effect. Divide and conquer, oldest known military tactic in the book.

I recently registered for the Alaskan Independence Party. There are quite a few total whackos that are members, but it's a legitimate party in the State of Alaska. It's not very active. My young (20's-30's) friends of mine are trying to change that.

In the primaries, the Republican ballot is the only "closed ballot" -- so being declared as anything else still allows you to vote for anyone else.

It's like inheriting an old house, the political platform is so-so...but at least we are recognized as a party and able to place candidates on ballots. My small friends and I are dedicated to reforming, reorganizing, and re-invigorating the party -- and making Alaska more independent by our own natural resources. Succession from the Union might have been an ideal held by the founders of the party -- but younger members see it only as a right of the people of Alaska to have a voice/choice to at least vote on.

I don't agree with everything the party stands for. That is for damned sure.

I'm not sure if people from other states feel the same as I do. I am an Alaskan first, then an American. This is how the founding fathers envisioned the formation of the Union. A UNION of independent STATES.

I think the disconnect from the other states of the US makes some Alaskans (myself included) feel different. The "lower 48" was almost another country to me growing up. It was expensive to travel there, and took at least 3 hours by plane to get there.

I'm rambling.

Murky is going to give the MSM a good source of media to throw at us ... get ready for a very, VERY interesting months to come!



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 02:44 AM
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I don't think you could accurately define socialism.

I'll save my breath.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by MystikMushroom


I'm not sure if people from other states feel the same as I do. I am an Alaskan first, then an American. This is how the founding fathers envisioned the formation of the Union. A UNION of independent STATES.

I think the disconnect from the other states of the US makes some Alaskans (myself included) feel different. The "lower 48" was almost another country to me growing up. It was expensive to travel there, and took at least 3 hours by plane to get there.




I was born and raised in Alaska and I feel the same way, If anybody asks I just say I'm from Alaska, Yeah I think your right on not being connected to the lower 48 and that we are a little different. I think even now there are some people out there who doesn't know that Alaska is a state.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 05:50 AM
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A socialist is anyone that takes from people and states they are going to spread it around. Period.

You can give me your vaunted academic hogwash as a definition, it just obfuscates the obvious.

The US has been a socialist country since they began the Socialist Security system along with taxing the LABOR of individuals. Taking individuals labor is a form of slavery. Period.

What I find hilarious is the fact that so many that lean socialist keep calling the system in place is NOT socialist in nature.

Just because socialism is mixed in with corporate socialism (fascism), does not mean a whole lot of socialism is not going on. Think music here.

Social Security-socialism
Health Care bill-socialism
Medicare-socialism
Medicaid-socialism
Public schooling-socialism
Union bailouts, Union payoffs, Public Union pensions-crony socialism
Progressive taxation-socialism
Corporate bailouts-corporate socialism/communism/fascism
Corporate and government partners-corporate fascism
Federal Reserve-straight up fascism with a little bankster demagoguery

Want me to give you some more REAL WORLD explanations or did I do pretty good here?
You can point at some supposed utopian ideal that you believe to be socialism and I just laugh at the pie in the sky idealists. What do you call the above examples, CAPITALISM?



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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You do realize that there's no such thing as the "other" side? They're all one and the same.

Wake up.


I'm afraid you made a wrong assumption and did not read what I posted here, nor have you read other posts by me.

I am fully opposed to both Parties. When you attack people for their personal beliefs, please make sure you are correct about them first.

You will notice I mentioned I'm registered as undeclared? Your lecture and accusation is wasted on me. I'm pointing out the power mad people in office now, like Murkowski who even though she lost won't give up.

I'm not a Tea Party person either, even though I applaud them for having the courage to fight the status quo.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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We have plenty of proof that the Tea Party is full of social conservatives that would normally run under the Republican banner.



So what? Are you opposed to people from any point of view engaging in their right to protest or speak out for change? If you are, it means you are trying to force your views on others. That is the real problem is it not? People trying force their views on others I mean? That is why Murkowski is doing this. She is slapping the face of anyone who does not agree with her.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by sandman441

Originally posted by Blaine91555
As I'm typing, I've just finished watching a group composed of mainly Democrats supporting Murkowski's Write In Campaign.


I watched maybe a few minutes of it, That was a huge ego stroke for her and it about made me throw up. I swear last night (thursday night) there was a yahoo article saying she was going to run and I don't remember if it was as a right in but I swear I saw the article last night.


It has been on the radio here and in rumors for a week. She has been sending emails and calling people all week, so it really was no surprise.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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I'm not going to name names here for obvious reasons, but two of the most powerful people on that stage last night are HARD CORE Far Left ideologues who simply will not vote for anyone who is not of a Far Left mindset. Period end of subject.

Murkowski however has been pretending to be the opposite as you know. Her Father was of course a Moderate Conservative and his record bears that out. She however is no such thing.

One, who I again won't name out of fear, I've sat in on a conversation with about Politics behind closed doors and He/She would not have done this without a promise of kick-backs and of that I am sure. This person put their entire future at risk to back Murkowski and has aspirations of running for high office themselves as Democrat.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555

It has been on the radio here and in rumors for a week. She has been sending emails and calling people all week, so it really was no surprise.



yeah, I think ever since she lost to joe miller. Yeah every time her name was brought up it was like yeah she's going to get on the ballot somehow.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 04:42 PM
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The RNC is backing Miller so it's pretty much official now, Murkowski is no longer a Republican. Yet another example that these people just pick a side, lie to the constituents to pretend to be something they are not. It's all about power and Murkowski thinks because of her Father she is owed her position of power and has lied to everyone to obtain it.

Political Parties are just organs of control. They are pure smoke and mirrors and always have been. They are there to fool us into thinking we have a say, when in fact they are led by arrogant, narcissistic, power mad people who want to control everyone and everything.

Sadly though, many voters share their arrogance and narcissism in that they also want to force their views and wants on everyone else.

I'm constantly accused of being an agent of the Right, when in fact I share as many views with the Right as I do with the Left. In other words, I'm not brainwashed. I was as a youth, by radical teachers and Peers who tried to lead me, but I will no longer drink their water. Things like this travesty with Murkowski should be a wake up call to people how fake this system has become. It is becoming the system that our ancestors fled to escape in Europe and other parts of the world. It is not longer the unique system that allowed the US to become the greatest success story in modern history.

OK, I'm off my soapbox. I do want to repeat I DO NOT align with, belong to or back any Political Party, period end of subject. I belong to the Party of Blaine91555. In my Party we have no candidates, we vote for the person we think will do the best job and who our best interest at the head of their agenda. Neither the Republicans nor Democrats meet that criteria.



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