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Five held over Pope terror alert

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posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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Thats precisely the point . It doesnt HAVE to be done, it merely IS being done. He should not be the responsibility of our government , or indeed our policemen.




posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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5 (possibly) Algerian street cleaners arrested and held in London (not Scotland).


www.bbc.co.uk...

Strange - i'm pretty sure the link said Algerian and now it says 'not british'.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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It's a question of whether he should be here or not, not whether he is the Government's responsibility or whether we should pay to protect him. When it is agreed for him to come here then hands are tied, over a billion people consider him their leader and that's quite a bit of pressure to keep him safe.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 09:59 AM
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This story is being played big time by the MSM propaganda machine, therefore it is a story which the Zionist controllers want the public to fully assimilate, therefore I am suspicious.

There have been a lot of protests regarding the Pope. Also, today, according to a schedule I just looked at, Kevin Annett, is holding prayer vigils outside Lambeth Palace and Houses of Parliament while the Pope is there, to protest the Vatican crimes.

It could be perceived as convenient that a handful of terrorists surface just at this time, their alleged plot allegedly only having been discovered in the last 24 hours (according to Sky). It seems, however, that no weapons, etc have been found during a search of their homes.

In keeping with the Zionist credo of 'never waste an opportunity', these alleged terrorists are good for the Zionist agenda:

- it detracts from the many protests against the Pope.
- it keeps the 'terrorist threat' psyops alive in people's mind
- it vindicates the UK taxpayer spending money on security for the Pope's visit (which hasn't been popular)
- it takes the spotlight away from the child abuse issues
- it engenders strong feelings in Catholics who support the Pope.

It's almost as though he could have planned this himself!

But, just so we don't get sidetracked, here's an article on The Crimes of the Vatican.

www.vaticancrimes.us...



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:05 AM
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Well , no , it IS a matter of wether he should be here or not, and no once he is here, hands are not tied. We the people , and the government also , ALWAYS have a choice about how they go about thier business, and what they will and will not tolerate. First of all , if he was going to come here, he should have been arrested on site for appeasing and assisting peadophilia, harbouring sexual deviants, and so on. If none of that was possible, he should have had to pay for, organise, and feed his own security detail. He should not be here as a head of state, and baring in mind that it was Britain which started non catholic worship of Jesus, his opinion , and his status as dignitary ought to mean NOTHING here.
If those billion worldwide supporters of his are fussed then they can invite him to thier nation, and stroke his ego there and pay for the event themselves. We can do without his sort messing up our air... I mean we have to breathe that stuff... dont want nasty pope germs on it.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:10 AM
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No once he is here hands are tied full stop. Do you think it's a coincidence that everything you just said didn't happen?



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:24 AM
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Exactly why shouldn't he be here?



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 11:21 AM
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He should not be allowed to be here, because that is the only thing our Government would ever have been able to do to him as punishment for his attitude to peadophile preists. Idealy he really should have been arrested the moment he set foot on our soil, but alas, our government is run by the powerful, not the moral, and so an outright ban would have been an acceptable (although not preferable) conclusion to the issue. He has aided and harboured men who have commited criminal acts of molestation, and protected thier names and whereabouts, and okay'd the use of vatican money (thats the money put in the collection plate on a sunday) in order to cover for these filthy deviants.
His presence here was largely ignored , but for the thousands of affected Britons who were molested, abused and so forth , at the hands of the institution of which the Pope was a part, this was an outrage. Even more so , since during some of the cases still under investigation he was in charge of dealing with this subject, but even to this day refuses point blank to accept his part in the whole debacle.
With his attitude to the whole affair amounting to nonchalant, and with well founded rumour saying that he has said things like " Being gay is worse than peadophilia" and other such nonsense, he should either have been kept the hell out, or arrested on the spot, and theres no way in hell we should ever have paid a single penny toward his security bill.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 11:22 AM
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I dont think its coincidence, I think its downright disgusting.
2nd damned line.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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Thanks for the clarification on your viewpoint and I would tend to agree with you as long as we are consistent in our treatment of religious and political leaders.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 12:21 PM
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Personally i'm of the belief that the UK is a verbal battleground at the moment, with many sides of many coins - part of me thinks this is organised - just to keep people on their toes, reminding people that there's always a threat etc etc.

Should be allowed here? Well.. yes in my opinion, as if we stopped the pope - there'd be people saying 'oh well we allow one type of hate speech here but stop another?'

As sad as it is, I know the pope has a lot to answer for, but to not allow him here would martyr catholicism in some way,creating further unease in society.

But he should pay for it out of his own damn pocket, and not stretch our crumbling allowances into paying for his visits.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 01:01 PM
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Like most other Brits, I don't want him in my country, I don't believe we should be paying one penny toward the cost of his visit and I hate pretty much everything the man stands for.
As for supposed terrorists, I'll bet my right nut it's nothing but a little nudge to remind the people what we have to supposedly fear (ie, the big bad dusky men with beards).

But, in all honesty, as long as their target is the hypocrite in his golf buggy and not the British people, I couldn't care less.
That man actively protects pedophiles, heads an organization responsible for the deaths of millions of people as a result of the spread of HIV/AIDS, he's intolerant, homophobic and downright nasty.

His brand of "spiritualism" has no place in the modern world, and especially not in Britain. Believe what you want to believe, follow any God you like. But the moment a religion starts to directly affect the safety, well-being, health, sanity and freedom of others it should not be tolerated.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 02:02 PM
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There is a group of officers, within the Metrapolitan Police Force, who can have you sectioned under the mental health act,if they think you are going to be a threat during the Popes visit. I watched the discussion a couple of nights ago. So no I am no making this up.

We are already the most watched country in the world, so yes I can say without guilt that this country is getting worse than China. You might not agree, but that is you choice and right to do so.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 02:13 PM
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Nobody is buying this are they? There just happens to be a plot against the Pope by some dodgy looking muslim extremists, leading to arrests of a number of foreign nationals engaged in a conspiracy to assassinate the Pope?

Yeah right!

I bet they were just minding their own business, then swooped on by the Police who were armed to the teeth, dragged off and defamed as terror suspects by a media always on the look out to up the level of fear in the populace.

As a result of this we will see an increase in freedoms being eroded, and after the Pope returns home the case will be quietly dropped and the suspects released. Failing that we will see some sort of ridiculous show trial where they will be prosecuted for having "terrorist materials", which will turn out to be simple things like sugar, paraffin, some beans, and possible a couple of thriller fiction novels and a couple of action DVDs.

TPTB lack credibility, everything they do is calculated to increase the levels of fear in the public and to remove yet more freedoms from us.

Who do the government serve? Who the the Police serve? Who do our security services serve?

It's certainly not the people any more!



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by Laurauk
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There is a group of officers, within the Metrapolitan Police Force, who can have you sectioned under the mental health act,if they think you are going to be a threat during the Popes visit. I watched the discussion a couple of nights ago. So no I am no making this up.


I think you will find that is incorrect. The Police cannot act independently of either medical professionals or the Courts in cases of Mental Illness.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 04:13 PM
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I was watching the Pope being whisked around yesterday in his Popemobile.

This spiritual leader is supposed to be the closest person to God on this planet.

He is hiding behind 2 inches of bullet proof glass. Why would he be scared of dying.

Ok, so they only started using the Popemobiles becuase of the attempts on the last Popes life. But the last Pope did not die during these assanination attempts.

Why is he hiding behind this bullet proof glass. It makes no sense. Nothing would be achieved by assassinating the Pope.

So , anyway he is being whisked through the crowds in Scotland waving from behind his bullet proof glass Pope mobile. Safe and sound.

Then the Pope mobile comes to a stop. The bullet proof window is rolled down. The Pope is then handed a child to lay his hands on her. If a sniper/terrorist wanted to shoot the leader of the Catholic church for whatever reason would the sight of a small child in his sights stop him? In this day and age I don't thinkso.

I really believe that the Popes action of stopping his bullet proof vehicle and rolling down the window actually brought unecessary risk to the small child?

The bullet proof glass protection was removed and was replaced with a child to protect the Pope.
I say 'Coward'




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posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 04:50 PM
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I think you will find I am correct on this, The group has the direct approval from the Home Office. Although it has not yet been used. This Group within the Metrapolitan police have the power to detain and if need be, section an individual under the mental health act. It was openly discussed, on the eve of the popes arrival in the UK and it was also discussed what powers this group has.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 04:51 PM
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So The Pope blessed the child just to use it as a human shield?



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 04:57 PM
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Care to furnish any proof?

As far as I know, a medical professional is required under the MHA and it has no provisions for some uptight fuzz to have someone sectioned. They can certainly apply to have someone sectioned, as can you or I, but a medic needs to sign it off.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
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So The Pope blessed the child just to use it as a human shield?


I would phrase more that the pope was able to bless the child because it was a human shield..

The bullet proof glass is only lowered when something else is in the way. In this case a kid.

And answer honestly , would a phsycopathic killer not take a shot at the pope because there is a child in the way when this might be the only chance he is not behind bullet proof glass?




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