Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Thank you for your thoughtful explanations, I appreciate them. I understand, I just disagree. Menstruation is a biological function, and part of the
process of procreation. There is nothing dirty about it in the sense that you describe. Extra hygiene care? Certainly, anybody knows that. But
that is all. Men are not tainted, by touching a menstruating woman. The rest is superstition and myth. This is common sense. It does not mean that
women are dirty, inferior, or unworthy.
I can't imagine how anyone could reach this conclusion. ?
edit on 9/18/2010 by ladyinwaiting because: Women can have babies! What a glorious manifest of nature!
Hey guess what guy ? I get an applause from the mod and become somebody respected foe 10mins later. LOL
Some more explanation for more ATS point! ( just kidding )
This is common sense. It does not mean that women are dirty, inferior, or unworthy.
During menstruation - Dirty - Yes, Inferior - Depends on situation, Unworthy - Who said this ?
The prophet tell us that a mother is valued 3 times more than the father and no matter how religious I'm, if my mother doesnt bless me, I wont even
smell heaven let alone enter it. Another sayeth/hadith tells that I cant even say "ah" (comparable to "huh"/"sheesh") to my parents.
Now you see, that a Muslim women is really appreciated and well protected. I think it worth mentioning that Arab women treated better with coming of
Islam. Arabs tribes before Islam buried their daughters alive if he ashamed of her. Islam view that as major sin. However some sect/part of the world,
the hudud/punishment taken a bit too strict, probably due to their cultural/regional belief, it tainted Islam image.
The best way is to ask a semi religious Muslim women about what she felt just to be fair. One that wear head covering without the ninja face cover
but still pray. A religious one might say "way to go", whilst a non religious might say "i dont really care". Islam prefer a modest life, so
choose a modest ones.
The rest is superstition and myth. ...
The menstrual issue goes all the way back to the tribal ways, only women bleed yet do not die, used to be heaped in superstition. ...
BUT men also do disgusting things. Like wet flatulence. How is this not more unclean than menstruation?
Superstition or myth or tribal or cultural or whatever doesnt really fit to the criteria. If its dictated in the Koran, so be it and so shall it be.
We view menstruation as women weak time, physically and mentally and special care needed for her. Apart from praying, we are forbidden from
intercourse also, I dont know about other religion/moral about this. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Flatulence, wet or not, sound or not, smelly or not, noticed by others or not
will nullify the wudu/cleanse, no need for the junub bath, merely
Maybe they treat their wives so poorly because having to prostrate themselves daily in prayer to the guy who kicked their ancestors butts over
a thousand years ago is such a humiliating daily ritual, lording it over their women folk is the only way they can pretend that they are still
Considering that the people at the mosque blatantly lied about the nature of their religion, no school should ever entertain such a foolish field trip
again. At least not with public money.
I for starter like the idea, I dont mind my kids to go to church, synagogue, temples, stupas etc, just to learn the custom/ceremony, not to follow it.
Too bad, we dont have that religious field trip here.
It is not humiliating to perform the daily praying ritual, it is ordered to us by god and as our way to be closer to god. Thanks for reminding me
Lording over wives - yes, but because of the guy is responsible for her. Fulfilling the responsibility as a husband, father and as son is manly
enough because the responsibility is quite heavy for us. If we did not educate properly the sins is on us too, the father/husband, hence we have to be
strict, you dont want your wife/son become religiously/morally bad people, dont you ?.
The people at the mosque does not lie, but did not know the rules thus why he invite the kids. Actually there is no reason to invite or force or lie
to a non Muslim to pray. It is compulsory for Muslim to pray though
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