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Abortion adoption and safe harbor are NOT walking away from responsibility, financial or other. They are ALL valid legal and responsible methods of taking care of the responsibilitiews that come with the pregnancy.
Originally posted by joechip
reply to post by StarrGazer25
so men walking away finanically along with some women, happen all the time weather its legal or not... but it shouldnt be legal for either one to walk away financially..
Okay, so I take it your are opposed to abortion, adoption, and safe harbor laws. If not, the above quotation of your stance are just pretty words, and not what you mean at all.
edit on 19-9-2010 by joechip because: to add
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Kailassa
You're lecturing a grandmother who has raised three children on her own, with no help from any man, (and two of the kids are handicapped, which is why husband left,) and who has raised her own children to be responsible.
Children need fathers, I know from experience.
These statements seem to contradict each other. You've raised 3 responsible children on your own (without their father), yet children need their fathers?
The truth is that children of single parents do very well. As you know. Why do you insist that children need their father? Maybe that's a basic assumption you're making that isn't really based in fact, but opinion?
Single-parent children more at risk: study
Children growing up in single-parent households are twice as likely to suffer a mental illness, commit suicide or develop an alcohol-related disease than children who live with both parents, a study has found.
The risk of drug abuse was found to be three times higher in girls and four times in boys from single-parent homes.
The Swedish study, published today in The Lancet medical journal, compared death statistics and hospital admissions during the 1990s for almost a million children.
Lead author Gunilla Ringback Weitoft, from Sweden's National Board for Health and Welfare, said the health of children from single-parent homes suffered because they were usually poorer.
information - statistics supporting the shared parenting
GREAT PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS single parent children 3 to 4 times more likely to have emotional or behavioral problems ( Zill and Schoenborn, National Center for Health Statistics, 1990) 84% of teens hospitalized for psychiatric care come from single parent homes (1989 study, cited by Hewlett, When the Bough Breaks)
HIGHER SUICIDE RATE teens who attempt suicide similar to non-suicidal teens in age, income, race or religion, are more likely to have little or minimal contact with their father (Study of 752 families by New York Psychiatric Institute, cited by Hewlett) 75% of teens who commit suicide are from single parent homes (Elshtain, The Christian Century, 1993)
MORE ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE 18% of children with strict and involved fathers used drugs 35% of children without fathers used drugs (1988 UCLA study, cited by Hewlett) Children in father-absent homes are 4.3 times more likely to smoke as children in father-present (Stanton, Oci, and Silva, 1994 survey of 1037 15-year-olds)
PERSISTENT FEELINGS OF BETRAYAL, REJECTION, RAGE, GUILT, PAIN lasting for years with a renewed intensity at adolescence Two-thirds [of father-absent children] yearned for the absent parent, one-half of those with an intensity we found profoundly moving. (Wallerstein and Kelly, 1980, Surviving the Breakup)
Sometimes children of single parents do better than children of married parents.
For example, a study of hundreds of 10- to 14-year olds and their parents showed that in their day-to-day lives, single parents were friendlier to their children than were married parents.
The children of single parents also spent more time with people in their extended families than did the children of married parents.
But if two-parent households have twice of everything that adults have to offer children, then why don't the children in those households do far better than the children in single-parent households?
And why would they ever do the same or even worse?
The first is to let go of the fantasy that all children living in nuclear families have two totally engaged parents who lavish their love and attention on all their children, and on each other, in a home free of anger, conflict, and recriminations. The second is to grab onto a different sort of possibility - that many children living with single mothers have other important adults in their lives, too. I don't mean just kids who have Grandma living with them. I also mean all of the kids who have grandparents, aunts, uncles, neighbors, teachers, family friends, and others who care about them and make sure they know it."
Originally posted by mayertuck
reply to post by hotbakedtater
Wow you definetly are into it deep they are not walking away. Yea they may be legal but it is still walking away. No matter how you choose to cut it it is walking away, throwing in the towel. etc etc.
And while we are at it lets talking about safe haven laws for a second. Is that not exactly the same thing you condemn men for wanting the ability . How did you put it scum bags who would deny their own blood children. Wow how hypocritical of you. What ever respect I had for you and your postions I think just evaportaed.
But I guess when your stuck on the man bad woman good mentality you need to go to insane leaps of logic and hypocracy to justify it.
edit on 20-9-2010 by mayertuck because: (no reason given)More generalizations , and misrepresentations. I would like to see where I have espoused a good female bad male analogy.
edit on 20-9-2010 by mayertuck because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mayertuck
reply to post by hotbakedtater
And I say the same thing with males. I simply want nothing more than equal or as close to equal as biology would allow. But I guess thats because I don't subscribe to a man bad women good philosophy nor a man good woman bad one, because I was hurt and angry.